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Just asking, because it seems like a very slow pain in the ass to order metoclopramide. Would risperidone be as effective?
 
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dont quote me because dissociation can mess with medication but it personally made me go insane and i hide it for a week or so because i wanted them to be happy i was getting better. everyone was horrified when i finally opened up. with a SN idk though. that was me "getting better" back to the drawing board lol.
 
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Risperidone is supposed to work fine.
 
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Read Stan's guide in the resources section, he has listed it as an Antiemetic.

Cheers

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First time I've heard about it being an AE.

Why don't you try it? Eat something awful and try to puke it up.

Also since it's the last thing you do why not go perfect kill with real meto?
 
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Resperidone is an AP and it replaces Meto as long as you are taking resperidone regularly for at least 2 weeks.
you do not use it like Meto tho, you just take your daily dose and then you don't need Meto or an AE.
This is all discussed in the SN Resource Guide under antiemetics

Rewriting antipsychotics

"The 13 Others"
What are they? If you do not take them regularly – DO NOT USE – this section is not for you.

They affect over weeks – so only if it is your regular medication.
  • Droperidol, Benperidol, Trifuperidol, Spiperone, Haloperidol, Bromperidol, Lurasidone, Sestindole, Paliperidone, Risperidone, Olanzapine, Clozapine, Quetiapine
    • Last 4 – strong antiemetic
    • Others are fine as well
  • Stan listed with nM (receptor affinity); higher numbers may indicate stronger effects.
Warnings:YES.
  • Abrupt dosage change – harmful
  • Tampering is done over weeks
  • EPS effects
  • Harsh withdrawal (psychosis)
Therefore
  • Don't take a single dose
  • Don't double dose
  • Don't change prescribed dosage
How much should I take?As prescribed, don't change
  • Personally-tailored – dosage varies greatly between individuals (explained here & here)
  • Example .
Do I need AEs?NO. They cover all antiemetics requirements.
  • If you use them regularly – you don't need any Meto or AEs.
How do I use with Stat?They totally replace AEs – use Stat directions – without Meto.
  • Read directions and ignore any AE/Meto reference.
 
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Resperidone is an AP and it replaces Meto as long as you are taking resperidone regularly for at least 2 weeks.
you do not use it like Meto tho, you just take your daily dose and then you don't need Meto or an AE.
This is all discussed in the SN Resource Guide under antiemetics

Rewriting antipsychotics

"The 13 Others"
What are they?If you do not take them regularly – DO NOT USE – this section is not for you.

They affect over weeks – so only if it is your regular medication.
  • Droperidol, Benperidol, Trifuperidol, Spiperone, Haloperidol, Bromperidol, Lurasidone, Sestindole, Paliperidone, Risperidone, Olanzapine, Clozapine, Quetiapine
    • Last 4 – strong antiemetic
    • Others are fine as well
  • Stan listed with nM (receptor affinity); higher numbers may indicate stronger effects.
Warnings:YES.
  • Abrupt dosage change – harmful
  • Tampering is done over weeks
  • EPS effects
  • Harsh withdrawal (psychosis)
Therefore
  • Don't take a single dose
  • Don't double dose
  • Don't change prescribed dosage
How much should I take?As prescribed, don't change
  • Personally-tailored – dosage varies greatly between individuals (explained here & here)
  • Example .
Do I need AEs?NO. They cover all antiemetics requirements.
  • If you use them regularly – you don't need any Meto or AEs.
How do I use with Stat?They totally replace AEs – use Stat directions – without Meto.
  • Read directions and ignore any AE/Meto reference.
I don't take any medicine right now, but I have some risperidone left over from my last psychiatrist visit, so would it work if I took it for 2 weeks leading up to it? They're only 0.5 milligram tablets, how many per day should I take?
 
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I don't take any medicine right now, but I have some risperidone left over from my last psychiatrist visit, so would it work if I took it for 2 weeks leading up to it? They're only 0.5 milligram tablets, how many per day should I take?
You take How it was prescribed for you

How much should I take?As prescribed, don't change
  • Personally-tailored – dosage varies greatly between individuals (explained here & here)
  • Example .
 
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I don't take any medicine right now, but I have some risperidone left over from my last psychiatrist visit, so would it work if I took it for 2 weeks leading up to it? They're only 0.5 milligram tablets, how many per day should I take?
nevermind, i get it now, thanks for the info! I'm actually glad because when I first read it worked as an antiemetic I assumed you just took one right before
 
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nevermind, i get it now, thanks for the info! I'm actually glad because when I first read it worked as an antiemetic I assumed you just took one right before
Yes.. taking for 2 weeks min would be your AE.
 
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First time I've heard about it being an AE.
Why don't you try it? Eat something awful and try to puke it up.

That's not really how you would test an antiemetic you are relying on to take with poisons anyway.

nevermind, i get it now, thanks for the info! I'm actually glad because when I first read it worked as an antiemetic I assumed you just took one right before

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You really need to read both the PPH and Stan's Guide completely before you go any further. Assumptions can be very dangerous when it comes to something as important as suicide.
 
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That's not really how you would test an antiemetic you are relying on to take with poisons anyway.



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You really need to read both the PPH and Stan's Guide completely before you go any further. Assumptions can be very dangerous when it comes to something as important as suicide.
Then what do you propose to do in order to test the AE?
 
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autumnal

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Feb 4, 2020
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Then what do you propose to do in order to test the AE?

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You don't need to test an antiemetic for its antiemetic properties, as long as you are taking one recommended in the SN guides and at the correct dosage.


iu
With some of the antiemetics, you may wish to test them for the separate purpose of determining your likelihood and severity of extrapyramidal side effects (EPS). This is a topic you can search for to find information.
 
anonymousapple

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Member
Jul 3, 2020
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That's not really how you would test an antiemetic you are relying on to take with poisons anyway.



ISO-blueman.png
You really need to read both the PPH and Stan's Guide completely before you go any further. Assumptions can be very dangerous when it comes to something as important as suicide.
Everybody keeps mentioning PPH, but I never see them give the full name of it or provide a link to it and since I'm new here, I have no idea what that is... I read stan's guide too, although he doesnt give a specific dosage of risperidone unless I skipped over something
 
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Everybody keeps mentioning PPH, but I never see them give the full name of it or provide a link to it and since I'm new here, I have no idea what that is... I read stan's guide too, although he doesnt give a specific dosage of risperidone unless I skipped over something

See post here:

The two most important SN resources you MUST read (PPH/Stan's Guide) | Sanctioned Suicide
 
suicidesheep31

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Specialist
Jun 27, 2020
348
I was taking risperidone before but stopped it.
I still have some of them at home and would like to use them as AE.
Do I need to take them over 2 weeks before to get the AE effects?
Is it safe'' = 'no weird shit due to antipsychotic' knowing that i didn't take them for months?
 
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Jun 27, 2020
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@checkouttime Thanks
I was reading Stan's guide and he was saying that you can use risperidone if you normally use it. But my question is if I can use it i don't take it daily.
I guess, one of the option is to restart it for 2 weeks before but it is a pity.
the second option is to get meto. But I can't figure out where I can get it.
 
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There's 2 sources of Meto alot of people have used. I must admit one of them i used to use about 20 years ago for another type of drug, so they have been around a while!!

I mean i found this in stans guide as well " Google online pharmacy and many will appear. It is such a simple drug that there is low risk of fraud." I know many many people have ordered it and had no problems whatsoever, so its unfortunate if you can't figure it out. i'm sure it will still be helpful to others even if it isn't to you.


I mean the way i read this is

Some of you may be on antipsychotics as part of your mental health treatment. If you are any of the below, there is no need to take any antiemetic as they already function as an antiemetic.

simply, if you are taking any of the drugs mentioned for the reason mentioned in the sentence then you don't need an anti e. if you aren't(you mentioned you aren't doing what the sentence says ) then this wouldn't apply to you, as you aren't doing what the sentence says. i can't put it much simpler than that, really.

If you aren't doing what the instructions say, then it isn't going to apply to you. no point in if's and buts, just do as it says and it works. don't do as it says it doesn't,
 
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There's 2 sources of Meto alot of people have used. I must admit one of them i used to use about 20 years ago for another type of drug, so they have been around a while!!

I mean i found this in stans guide as well " Google online pharmacy and many will appear. It is such a simple drug that there is low risk of fraud." I know many many people have ordered it and had no problems whatsoever, so its unfortunate if you can't figure it out. i'm sure it will still be helpful to others even if it isn't to you.


I mean the way i read this is

Some of you may be on antipsychotics as part of your mental health treatment. If you are any of the below, there is no need to take any antiemetic as they already function as an antiemetic.

simply, if you are taking any of the drugs mentioned for the reason mentioned in the sentence then you don't need an anti e. if you aren't(you mentioned you aren't doing what the sentence says ) then this wouldn't apply to you, as you aren't doing what the sentence says. i can't put it much simpler than that, really.

If you aren't doing what the instructions say, then it isn't going to apply to you. no point in if's and buts, just do as it says and it works. don't do as it says it doesn't,
Ok. Thanks for your reply.
It is a pity to have risperidone and not use them.
But I will follow exactly what the Stan's guide is saying as you suggest.
 
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Jul 15, 2020
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Ok. Thanks for your reply.
It is a pity to have risperidone and not use them.
But I will follow exactly what the Stan's guide is saying as you suggest.

here's what a google search found.

How long does risperidone take to work? It can take four to six weeks for risperidone to have its full effect, but some people get good effects right from the first week. You should stay in touch with your doctor to see how it goes over the first few weeks. They might do some tests to check your symptoms

I would imagine seen as you would have been prescribed this drug, you could just simply ask your doctor how long before it takes effect though. then if you are taking it everyday for the amount of time said it would be ok. It doesn't state in the guide at any point using the drug you mentioned in the 48hr or stat dose regime. It clearly lists the drugs that can be used in them circumstances.

It says this

"Some of you may be on antipsychotics as part of your mental health treatment. If you are any of the below, there is no need to take any antiemetic as they already function as an antiemetic"

Droperidol- 0,25 nM. Benperidol- 0,027 nM. Trifuperidol- 0,4 nM. Spiperone- 0,053 nM. Haloperidol- 2,0. Bromperidol- 2,1. Lurasidone- 1,0 nM. Sestindole- 2,7 nM. Paliperidone- 2,8 nM. Risperidone- 4,9 nM. Olanzapine- 21 nM. Clozapine- 144 nM. Quetiapine- 245 nM

that isn't talking about using them in a 48hr or stat dose regime, its if you take them "as part of your mental health treatment" as stated in the sentence he wrote
 
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