The thing about casualty numbers, even a novice enthusiast of military history could tell that you read anything about any war or battle that the casualties are unknown sometimes unknowable, debated very widely between the two. Sometimes the best option was to take the one extreme on one side and the one on the other and kind of like split the difference. But thats hard to do here because I'm not really hearing vary many counterclaims I mean I'm not going out of my way to digest Russian media. I mean nobodies going to know the casualty count. Even the Russians don't know how many of their soldiers are dead yet. There's always gonna be a period of time it takes to actually figure out whats going on. A lot of people are gonna go missing. The Ukrainians are gonna have an even harder time since they're presumably less well organized since they've got these ad hoc fighting regiments assembled. I mean people are gonna get scattered, they might be presumed dead when they're not, they're put in as missing but they're found later.
My take on Russia and Ukraine is that there is always more to these things than one sees on the surface. I don't trustBiden – he has family business ties to both Russia and Ukraine, and he also needs a war to take attention off of his failures. But that doesn't mean that he's in control of what Putin is doing, either – Putin has his own agenda, which definitely includes putting it together as much as he can of the old Soviet Union. And China is ready to take advantage of the distraction – I worry about Taiwan.
Well Russia certainly has a long history of leader ship assassination so I don't know if they would necessarily be a power vacuum I'm almost wondering if there's a successor or if there's just a few people standing in line waiting I don't know if it would be as dramatic as a lot of these western pundits speculate like generals having a bloody Civil War vying for power
We've been sold this narrative that painted a picture of Russians and Putin as these evil guys who unjustly invaded this sovereign nation and painted Ukrainians especially Zelenskyy as morally righteous and strong and brave and also in the right and winning the war. But the reality of this war is far from black and white.
Tucker Carlson interviewed a retired four star US Army general, McGregor, he was saying that according to his estimates and the circles that he moves, he was saying that Ukrainians lost close to 500,000 people. Which is way bigger than the NATO estimate. He said according to their estimates, the Russians have maybe lost close to 50,000. But if you look at Wikipedia it's totally different numbers. But who knows? I'm not going to say what that general said is statistically correct because I don't really have evidence to support either side of the argument. But I will say, if you just look at whatever numbers the West has come out with, Russia would have been done a long time ago. There is no way you could sustain a fight that long with those kinds of casualties. It's basically 1 times 5. Like one Ukrainian dies and 5 Russians die. The entire Russian military would be gone by 2025 or something. So maybe there is some truth in it but I don't really have the knowledge to support either side of the argument. Putin conducted I think two waves of mass mobilization inside the country, that kind of made people think that there might be a lot more casualties than he was expecting so thats why.
I'm not saying I believe that Russia is winning or loosing. I don't believe anything I'm being told by the media about it. If they're saying that Russia is loosing, I'm going to assume that they're lying on some level. But I don't know. The Russians mobilized, is it because they're loosing or is it because they see the writing on the wall about whats coming. There appears to be much resistance within the Russian populace to this mobilization. I don't know how much of that is true, how much of it is exaggerated. We know how you can make things look bigger than they are.
You're not gonna be mobilizing the United States, thats not happening. We can't even get groceries on the shelf now. And there's nothing happening.
I would caution everyone not to pass judgement on what's on because I don't think anybody really knows whats happening. I've never seen such disinformation being spread, its more confusing than the Crimean operation. Its just very strange whats going on. I say right off the front I don't have a dog in this fight. I've cautioned people about this false dichotomy, you don't have to take a side. You're allowed to say I don't really any of these people or I don't really have enough information to have a side. I would prefer if people weren't killed but I don't know what the fuck is happening is the problem. There's videos where people say these are Russian tanks and in another video is no those are actually Ukrainian tanks, I don't know enough about Soviet armor to tell the difference between different variants of the T-72 or whatever the Ukrainians might have or the Russians might have and you can't trust anything that anybody is saying because its all bullshit. Its very confusing. You're hearing things like the Ukrainian government saying they're winning but they're surrounding Kiev and if you watch the live streams in Kiev there's nothing happening. They show videos of these are Russian tanks moving through the Belorussian border into Ukraine, maybe, probably I don't know. The point is all I saw was a video of a vaguely Russian-looking vehicle traversing a wooded terrain. I don't know what that is. I don't know what to do with that.
So supposedly they crossed into Ukraine from Belarus and I watched a reporter from the French's english news channel talking about how he had been at the border a couple of days previously and remarked how even to him a civilian the defenses were minimal. This shit has been going there since 2014, they've had 8 years to do something like I don't know you prime your bridges. Like there's a video going around of these supposedly Russian tanks crossing this bridge under what is described as heavy fire, there's some expositions I don't know whats happening but there's tanks crossing this bridge. Now if you don't want the enemy to cross your bridge, what you do, especially when you have 8 years prepare for this, is you have these bridges primed for demolition. Why wasn't that done? Thats not something that requires billions of dollars in congressional aide for weapons systems. This is like a simple hundreds of years old tactic for denying the enemy movement. And if the Ukrainian government was not prepared to destroy their own bridges to stop a Russian armored advance then they're probably gonna loose. Like if history tells us anything about how these sorts of things play out. But they had 8 years and the shit is not mined.
Even if you don't think this is gonna happen that is what your military is for is to prepare for the contingencies and shit that you hope never happens. The
thing I'm very fascinated about as someone who's very interested in military history, I'm very curious to find out how these modern air defense systems are working out. Its unclear to me how they're working out. I think thats part of the reason this information is so shitty because all the players involved have some of their top systems in this theater and they don't want everybody to know how well or not well they're preforming. I would like to know how well the air defenses are working. I would think if the Russians had complete air superiority they'd have this in the bag in 48 hours.
How much of the country are they actually looking to take over? Maybe they're saying on western media that they're surrounding Kiev when they're not because it seems like Kiev is pretty close to the border. I don't know its all very strange. Putin doesn't give a fuck what western media thinks. He's on unite the Slovak people under one banner type shit. He has different ideological goals and he sets different types of limitations on himself. He's not going to be concerned so much about what the media thinks. He's probably gonna be pretty concerned about what his military thinks, his security services, his intelligence services the people who have a lot of power in Russia it matters to him what they think about the job he's doing. Other than that, he doesn't care. He's a man who holds complete power so sometimes decisions in that country will be made simply on the basis of how he feels about it. Thats what you get when you have a society run by a dictator.
The history of Chinese-Russian relations is complicated but again you can't really trust anything that anybody is saying. I really don't trust anything the Chinese government says. On top of everything else they in my opinion are responsible for all this covid bullshit. They blitzed the world with a lot of propaganda, a lot of crazy shit, really fucked things up good. I hold the Chinese government responsible for that. At least for initiating it, it was sustained and propagated by the other governments. They're very aggressive diplomatically but I don't blame them on a certain level they're ideologically driven.
The Chinese government is creepy.
The propaganda around this war seems strange to me because it seems like at least in the United States that the media built Russia up to be this evil arch nemesis with its tentacles around all levels of US media and is corrupting the minds of the people and stuff like this and it had all this wide-ranging power and now its being presented as this ineffective bumbling thing and like most things the answer is probably somewhere closer to the middle
How many people haven't learned anything the last couple of years just about how controlled the media and the narrative is and that people still don't understand that nothing is going to be allowed on the main stream media in all its forms unless there's a reason for it. Promulgated widely it needs to be for a reason, you're only gonna be told what the powers that be want you to know about it.
Seems like world war 1 rhetoric we don't know if any of this stuff is true people are talking about this being the worst tragedy since world war 2 and that remains to be seen in my opinion because we don't know how many people have died yet or how many people will die or whatever. There's the wars in Yugosalvia NATO involvement and bombings in the aftermath of all that and UN all this other kind of shit this is not the first thing to happen in europe since world war 2. You cannot trust anything that the media is saying. That does not make Russia good. It doesn't make anybody good or bad. All I am saying is that anything that is being shown on TV, on the internet by mainstream is controlled.
I'm sure there are US citizens fighting and what they are is probably special forces I'd imagine that there's some US special forces there I've the suspicion that these weapon systems they're touting various deliveries various missiles and such if they've been given access to these various types of missiles I don't believe that they're just given to the Ukrainians I believe there are probably US special forces operating these weapon systems
They might be testing the weapons, thats part of why our government sustained these bullshit wars in Afghanistan and Iraq amongst all the other reasons it was a convenient place to test in real life these various weapons systems that they're spending a lot of money on and to have a constant kind of live exercise training situation so that they find themselves in the position with a lot of officers and NCO's and such with some level of combat experience which is useful even if it is in an asymmetric warfare type situation
One of the things that trump did that I was most displeased with was his unilateral withdrawal from the ballistic missile defense treaty which is something that I had heard the Russians warning against years before that, you're putting weapons within a couple minutes of most of the Russian population it's a pretty simple comparison but its a good one the closest thing I could compare this to is its kind of what the US did as it relates to the Cuban missile crisis I mean the Soviet's were putting these weapon systems in Cuba we almost went to fucking war with them to remove those intermediate range missiles
The problem is the longer that this continues the more opportunity there is for some event to occur which could make this even bigger. Russia shoots down Romania fighter jet or russian airliner hit or something I don't wanna see it, the longer this goes the more chance there is for international incident to be caused that could a causality to actually go to a full-scale war on some level
I mean we're seeing polls and polls can't be fuckin' trusted at all on any level. But whether the poll is real or not isn't really the issue its more again because its on TV you would only see it if it was something that they wanted you to see so whether its real or not doesn't matter whats important for you to know is that the powers that be want you to think that the majority of the American population supports war with Russia over this issue in the Ukraine. That is fucking crazy.
I remember reading about a couple different airliners that got shot down I know they shot down the Soviets shot down that Korea Air in the '80's.
Just to see after all these years of just constant bombardment of bullshit that the people still haven't figured out yet your knee-jerk reaction should be to not believe anything that you are being told on the TV, radio and mainstream media you should assume that you're being lied to in some way
Thats the problem with this we don't know whats really going on
I believe just because it makes sense to me based on what has happened in the past here's probably US special forces in Ukraine operating these weapons systems
(And now its been leaked and confirmed there are plus UK).
Do you think this is a fight for oil: well sort of in one way I mean it's partially an issue over the petrodollar but it's complicated it's complex I mean its not being treated as very complex by everybody in the situation because its considered like any attempt to understand what's going on here is some sort of like shilling for Moscow or something which is fucking ridiculous. Certainly a big part of whats going on the petrodollar is rolled into this. One of the issues that led to this part of whats happening here is the Russians have over the Europeans is they're supplying a lot of their natural gas and oil and stuff part of the reason for that is because the europeans just like in America we all these environmental regulations gotta reduce your carbon footprint and this shit and so what companies do instead of improving the way that they do things and make their shit more environmentally friendly they just export their manufacturing or whatever to China or India or some place where they don't have any environmental regulations.
In Europe they did the same type of thing and put a lot of their environmental impact in terms of energy extraction onto the Russians. So they can turn around say to their sheep we're greener now thereby giving Russia a bunch of extra money. I've heard different things about them finding some gas in the Ukraine that could upset the issue. I think thats just part of it.
The russians do try to influence people's opinions on the internet just like the Americans, the Israelis, the British, the Chinese the prevalence of Russians I think is over exaggerated. I think government payed shills go in order of precedence in number some would disagree with me but I believe it's US, China, Russia, Israel and then everybody else after that. A lot of what people think are Russian shills are people trying to piss off normies. But they do certainly shill.
Based on a regional war in eastern Europe between two countries with tiny-ass economies they were offering $50 bounty on Russian soldiers and this is apparently something like the average month's salary in Ukraine again this isn't a defense of Russia or anything positive about Russia this is to point out that if you have a country where the average is 50 US dollars and people are willing to kill people supposedly for $50 is this a place that strikes you as corruption-free as like a bastion of complete freedom, tolerance and like the light of democracy or does it seem like the kind of place that would be right for corruption. People are virtue signaling who's puppet regime is better. This person who is a fucking comedic actor of some sort.
The position that the US government and its allies have taken appears to be one of their desire for regime change in Russia. Putin will not go without taking everyone with him. And even if the people of Russia are dissatisfied with Putin they are not going to allow themselves to become our bitches. They've seen what happens when we go try to help countries with their democracy.
My guess is like the others said, probably war of attrition with static lines that degrades into border skirmishes and no official peace treaty at least for a long time or perhaps Ukraine finally implodes.
Ukraine's entire government is funded by the US.
