How do you feel after ingesting SN?

[SinisterKid]

Please leave Mainlaenda alone and let him process the events of yesterday. If he wants to say anything more, he will, when he is ready.

Please, lets not go into the fear factor games again. SN is toxic when ingested in larger quantities. Some discomfort will ensue after ingestion. If that is not something you are prepared for, then research other methods.

 

[MeltingHeart]

I drank some salty water yesterday. Even that was not easy. I felt very dehydrated. Hope we are allowed to drink some water after sn attempt.
Going hungry is ok but i hate going thirsty when i do it.

Not to be rude,but dehydration will be the last of yr worries- your entire bodies functions will be shutting down. I am sure u can sip some water though.
Hope you dont mind my bluntness, just seen it is talked about far too casually at times, as if its like just experimenting with taking drugs or something. And it needs to be taken very seriously indeed.

 

[Ἡγησίας]

Instead of writing " something horrible and for me it is completely discarded." This does not help the forum in any way .
We have no idea of medications which could have an adverse effect or side effects , was the regime followed , etc etc etc

I share all the information I have about this case. She did a 72 hours regimen of metoclopramide. She stopped eating six hours before ingesting the SN. She took a last metoclopramide 30mg dose and after that the ranitidine (225mg?) too.

One hour later she drank 25g of SN dissolved in plain water, no quantity was informed.

Disgusting flavour and throat burn in first place. That didn't sound bad, at least not in a great manner. After that the breathing stepped slow, not a very bad sign neither. She was talking to me yet, saying she was not suffering a lot. But 20 minutes after ingesting she started to vomit violently and all the consequented sounds indicated it became a very tough experience. Horrible respiratory sounds, really distressing. I don't know when she fell unconscious but we didn't talk anymore. 45 minutes after drinking she stopped breathing and dead.

Like I said in the thread all is MINE SUBJECTIVE IMPRESSION based on what I could herd by the phone. Maybe it wasn't so bad, but for me it was something extremely tough, hearing her body fighting against the poison. So PLEASE CONSIDER I WAS DEEPLY EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED TO HER and that maybe influenced in the way I perceived the experience.

All my apologies if I am being harsh or a bad informer, but this is too difficult for me, and indeed I don't speak a good english.

@JSauter @Guizin239 @NeCkDeEp @Dubs @Qdv

 

[Skyview]

I share all the information I have about this case. She did a 72 hours regimen of metoclopramide. She stopped eating six hours before ingesting the SN. She took a last metoclopramide 30mg dose and after that the ranitidine (225mg?) too.

One hour later she drank 25g of SN dissolved in plain water, no quantity was informed.

Disgusting flavour and throat burn in first place. That didn't sound bad, at least not in a great manner. After that the breathing stepped slow, not a very bad sign neither. She was talking to me yet, saying she was not suffering a lot. But 20 minutes after ingesting she started to vomit violently and all the consequented sounds indicated it became a very tough experience. Horrible respiratory sounds, really distressing. I don't know when she fell unconscious but we didn't talk anymore. 45 minutes after drinking she stopped breathing and dead.

Like I said in the thread all is MINE SUBJECTIVE IMPRESSION based on what I could herd by the phone. Maybe it wasn't so bad, but for me it was something extremely tough, hearing her body fighting against the poison. So PLEASE CONSIDER I WAS DEEPLY EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED TO HER and that maybe influenced in the way I perceived the experience.

All my apologies if I am being harsh or a bad informer, but this is too difficult for me, and indeed I don't speak a good english.

My heart goes out to you , if I was close to you I would reach out and give you a hug. Thanks for clearing up any confusion .

 

[Guizin239]

i hope i dont puke. i hate puking, it hurts so much

 

[PetiteAngel]

My heart goes out to you , if I was close to you I would reach out and give you a hug. Thanks for clearing up any confusion .

that was very hard to read. not the peaceful end it has promised.

 

[pleasethistime]

Not to be rude,but dehydration will be the last of yr worries- your entire bodies functions will be shutting down. I am sure u can sip some water though.
Hope you dont mind my bluntness, just decided it is talked about far too casually at times, as if its like just experimenting with taking drugs or something. And it needs to be taken very seriously indeed.

There is not an easy option.

 

[MeltingHeart]

There is not an easy option.

Indeed. I concur.

 

[PetiteAngel]

Indeed. I concur.

Is any death painless. I mean just because a person is asleep after taking N, how do we not know they still feel pain?

 

[noctiva]

I think we need to keep one thing in mind here: Natural death isn't the peaceful holy grail of deaths either. A natural death is also, like N, SN, gas, hanging etc a death where the brain is starved off oxygen. You will have physical and mental discomfort as well. The only difference is that you cannot chicken out of your natural death and decide to not go through with it.

 

[KiraLittleOwl]

Thank you

I share all the information I have about this case. She did a 72 hours regimen of metoclopramide. She stopped eating six hours before ingesting the SN. She took a last metoclopramide 30mg dose and after that the ranitidine (225mg?) too.

One hour later she drank 25g of SN dissolved in plain water, no quantity was informed.

Disgusting flavour and throat burn in first place. That didn't sound bad, at least not in a great manner. After that the breathing stepped slow, not a very bad sign neither. She was talking to me yet, saying she was not suffering a lot. But 20 minutes after ingesting she started to vomit violently and all the consequented sounds indicated it became a very tough experience. Horrible respiratory sounds, really distressing. I don't know when she fell unconscious but we didn't talk anymore. 45 minutes after drinking she stopped breathing and dead.

Like I said in the thread all is MINE SUBJECTIVE IMPRESSION based on what I could herd by the phone. Maybe it wasn't so bad, but for me it was something extremely tough, hearing her body fighting against the poison. So PLEASE CONSIDER I WAS DEEPLY EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED TO HER and that maybe influenced in the way I perceived the experience.

All my apologies if I am being harsh or a bad informer, but this is too difficult for me, and indeed I don't speak a good english.

You was there for her.
She wasn't alone and not suffering anymore.
Thank you for sharing
I know it's very hard for you

 

[MeltingHeart]

I think we need to keep one thing in mind here: Natural death isn't the peaceful holy grail of deaths either. A natural death is also, like N, SN, gas, hanging etc a death where the brain is starved off oxygen. You will have physical and mental discomfort as well. The only difference is that you cannot chicken out of your natural death and decide to not go through with it.

fair point!

Is any death painless. I mean just because a person is asleep after taking N, how do we not know they still feel pain?

well ive seen vids and they look pretty ok, als death occurs quickly after sleep.

 

[WhyIsLife56]

I think we need to keep one thing in mind here: Natural death isn't the peaceful holy grail of deaths either. A natural death is also, like N, SN, gas, hanging etc a death where the brain is starved off oxygen. You will have physical and mental discomfort as well. The only difference is that you cannot chicken out of your natural death and decide to not go through with it.

I mean death in itself isn't all that peaceful for the body's natural survival instinct.
I wonder what it would be like to chicken out on natural death lol

 

[pane]

Mainlaender I offer my sympathies to you for losing this woman who obviously was important to you and for the enormous grief you're now undeniably feeling.

It's difficult to draw broad conclusions about whether or not to use sodium nitrite as a means of suicide based on this one case. It obviously worked and none of us can dispute the accuracy of Mainlaender's description of what he heard since we weren't able to listen as it was happening. On the other hand, this woman's nervous system may have been especially sensitive or vulnerable to the effects of sodium nitrite for whatever reason.

What else do you want me to say, @pane? I share MY IMPRESSIONS about what happened based on what I now about her protocol and what I heard during our "conversation". I'm not a researcher, I didn't want to ask more technical questions because she was an important person for me, not an scientific experiment. Maybe Philip Nitschke could offer better details if he has seen records of SN users or whatever. I was not there while my close friend was dying, do you understand? I just tried to accompany her in that moment, and I swear it was an incredible hard experience to live. That's the reason why FOR ME is not a good statement when PN grants a 7 score in peacefulness, but it's just my consideration. If you don't want to give any value to my opinion is ok. Don't forget I'm not saying nobody should go on or not with this method. Noway.

Mainlaender I deleted the post you're responding to and asked MeltingHeart to edit her post that quoted mine, which was done. Given that you provided a more detailed account of what you knew and heard about this woman's death my original post came across as insensitive. I apologize for that.

 

[Skyview]

Hospitals and hospices administer sedatives to those who are dying , if we take something strong to ease some of the symptoms , don't know if it will ease the pain of retching i would hope so . When do you take it ? 30 min before stat dose ?

 

[SerenitySeeker]

I'm definitely not trying to stack on experiences here and I debated a long time about sharing my experience vs not sharing my experience because of the very reason of not wanting to create unnecessary panic or feeling like it doesn't really add anything of value to the conversation but I did share this with Stan before he left us and now seeing the conversation being brought up more on SN I think i should share.

Please keep in mind that this was sloppily attempted and I know that. This is what I sent to Stan, copy and pasted.

About two weeks ago I decide to attempt. I hadn't fasted, maybe only 6-8 hours without food. I took half hydrocodone, 80mg propanol (only because I had it on hand) waited 40 minutes and then dissolved roughly 20-25mg if SN in 60-70 mg of water. (Again nothing precise here). I don't know if I would even call this an attempt because I never took a huge swig of the drink. I knew it would be incredibly salty.. which it definitely was but consuming the entire dose seemed like it would be kind of tough because of the taste and aftertaste it leaves. I kept taking small dabs and placing it on my tongue and one small swig, I'm not sure how much it ended up accumulating to but I did start to experience an increased heartbeat but really nothing else for awhile. I decided to lay down but keep myself aware to any changes if possible. Nothing was happening other than I didn't feel I could sleep and I felt some discomfort in my stomach, this went on for about 30-40 minutes. I finally decide to get up and that's when I began to feel a little drunk/disassociative/faint but didn't faint. I made it to the bathroom didn't observe any blue tinge.. ended up vomiting (which was brown, don't know if that had anything to do with the SN or just stomach contents) and having and having an upset stomach. I was able to take care of myself and drink orange juice/water. Crawled back to bed and slept most of the day.
I feel ok at the moment.. more like a small hangover or getting over a stomach virus.
What I will say is obviously the way I did it wasn't correct and I definitely didn't take enough but the process wasn't terribly painful persay, I could definitely see how it could be peaceful if I actually did faint once I started to feel faint or after vomiting. The only annoying parts of it is just feeling sick for some time which could trigger SI and definitely the taste. I'm sure actually taking the full dose as recommended with antiemetics helps, can't say how the side effects are amplified with the full dose though. I also had like a, I wouldn't call it sore but almost like if you bite your tongue or lip place on my lip later that day. It healed and was gone by two days but I just wonder if that had anything to do with it because I remember a girl on here saying she had mouth sores after being rescued after taking SN.
So that's my experience, I'm fully recovered now. Wasn't too bad but already being caught on the fence with this method, I'm slightly still there.

 

[KiraLittleOwl]

I'm definitely not trying to stack on experiences here and I debated a long time about sharing my experience vs not sharing my experience because of the very reason of not wanting to create unnecessary panic or feeling like it doesn't really add anything of value to the conversation but I did share this with Stan before he left us and now seeing the conversation being brought up more on SN I think i should share.

Please keep in mind that this was sloppily attempted and I know that. This is what I sent to Stan, copy and pasted.

About two weeks ago I decide to attempt. I hadn't fasted, maybe only 6-8 hours without food. I took half hydrocodone, 80mg propanol (only because I had it on hand) waited 40 minutes and then dissolved roughly 20-25mg if SN in 60-70 mg of water. (Again nothing precise here). I don't know if I would even call this an attempt because I never took a huge swig of the drink. I knew it would be incredibly salty.. which it definitely was but consuming the entire dose seemed like it would be kind of tough because of the taste and aftertaste it leaves. I kept taking small dabs and placing it on my tongue and one small swig, I'm not sure how much it ended up accumulating to but I did start to experience an increased heartbeat but really nothing else for awhile. I decided to lay down but keep myself aware to any changes if possible. Nothing was happening other than I didn't feel I could sleep and I felt some discomfort in my stomach, this went on for about 30-40 minutes. I finally decide to get up and that's when I began to feel a little drunk/disassociative/faint but didn't faint. I made it to the bathroom didn't observe any blue tinge.. ended up vomiting (which was brown, don't know if that had anything to do with the SN or just stomach contents) and having and having an upset stomach. I was able to take care of myself and drink orange juice/water. Crawled back to bed and slept most of the day.
I feel ok at the moment.. more like a small hangover or getting over a stomach virus.
What I will say is obviously the way I did it wasn't correct and I definitely didn't take enough but the process wasn't terribly painful persay, I could definitely see how it could be peaceful if I actually did faint once I started to feel faint or after vomiting. The only annoying parts of it is just feeling sick for some time which could trigger SI and definitely the taste. I'm sure actually taking the full dose as recommended with antiemetics helps, can't say how the side effects are amplified with the full dose though. I also had like a, I wouldn't call it sore but almost like if you bite your tongue or lip place on my lip later that day. It healed and was gone by two days but I just wonder if that had anything to do with it because I remember a girl on here saying she had mouth sores after being rescued after taking SN.
So that's my experience, I'm fully recovered now. Wasn't too bad but already being caught on the fence with this method, I'm slightly still there.

This is quite confusing.
Did you take 20-25 mg or gr?
Is this a typo?
Are you sure it was Sodium Nitrite not Sodium Nitrate?

 

[SerenitySeeker]

This is quite confusing.
Did you take 20-25 mg or gr?
Is this a typo?
Are you sure it was Sodium Nitrite not Sodium Nitrate?

I dissolved 20-25g, BUT I didn't consume that amount. I can't give you an exact estimate of what I consumed but obviously not enough to kill me. But enough for me to experience some side effects and vomit. Yes it's sodium NITRITE not nitriate.

edit:
my bad I see where that was confusing, that was a typo.

 

[SinisterKid]

I dissolved 20-25mg, BUT I didn't consume that amount. I can't give you an exact estimate of what I consumed but obviously not enough to kill me. But enough for me to experience some side effects and vomit. Yes it's sodium NITRITE not nitriate.

I think you are getting your milligrams and grams confused. 25mg of SN would not do very much, if anything to you. 25 grams is enough to kill you. Easy mistake to make.

 

[SerenitySeeker]

I think you are getting your milligrams and grams confused. 25mg of SN would not do very much, if anything to you. 25 grams is enough to kill you. Easy mistake to make.

^^ that's what I was doing lol! Either way, I never consumed the full amount but I did dissolve the full amount into the water.

 

[Meant2Die]

^^ that's what I was doing lol! Either way, I never consumed the full amount but I did dissolve the full amount into the water.

Sorry, to clarify "that's what I was doing" - you were confusing how to use "mg" vs "gm" when you wrote that long post.. or you're saying you confused it as you were taking it and measured out only 25 milligrams, and took even less?
If you took 25 milligrams, thats less than 1% of 25 grams =25,000 milligrams.

 

[Guizin239]

I'm getting really spooked now, I hate vomiting, I have a sensitive stomach and no meto, only domperidone :/

 

[SerenitySeeker]

Sorry, to clarify "that's what I was doing" - you were confusing how to use "mg" vs "gm" when you wrote that long post.. or you're saying you confused it as you were taking it and measured out only 25 milligrams, and took even less?
If you took 25 milligrams, thats less than 1% of 25 grams which is 25,000 milligrams.

I understand the confusion, what I was saying I measured out and dissolved the correct measurements. But as stated in the post, I did not take the entire amount and I can't give you an exact amount of how much I took because I don't know because primarily this was a sloppy/slow attempt and once I saw the taste was kind of difficult to wrap my head around I never consumed the entire amount BUT I was hoping that what I did consumed would be enough. Logically I knew it wouldn't be likely but in an emotional state you hope for the best.

 

[MeltingHeart]

I'm getting really spooked now, I hate vomiting, I have a sensitive stomach and no meto, only domperidone :/

well there is a fairly good chance of vomiting (though not guaranteed)- more so if no antiemetic, proceed with caution.

 

[SerenitySeeker]

I'm getting really spooked now, I hate vomiting, I have a sensitive stomach and no meto, only domperidone :/

None of this is meant to spook you. Its just to give you an idea of what could happen and how/what to prepare. Everyone is different but I agree with what @MeltingHeart has been conveying in this post. I was guilty of psyching myself out about the possibilities of the method and just focusing on what was stated about the quick passing out and being the step down from N. My experience snapped me out of that and I still won't say that I'm completely opposed to SN now, but I am still on the fence because as most of us would want something completely peaceful but we have to weigh our pros and cons as with anything.

 

[Guizin239]

well there is a fairly good chance of vomiting (though not guaranteed)- more so if no antiemetic, proceed with caution.

domperidone is an antiemetic, but i think it's weaker than meto

 

[MeltingHeart]

domperidone is an antiemetic, but i think it's weaker than meto

sorry i misread-thought u said No domp..

 

[Ark]

There have been study's that suggest Meto and Domperidone are equally effective.

 

[Guizin239]

There have been study's that suggest Meto and Domperidone are equally effective.

great to hear

 

[Starrywaters]

I'm getting really spooked now, I hate vomiting, I have a sensitive stomach and no meto, only domperidone :/

Nobody is here to spook you but what you will find here is solid and well researched factually presented realities.

Ultimately the body no matter what the mind may be set on will fight to live. It's the most basic and intrinsic thing that we do; that all living things do is adamantly protect their life.

There are plenty of resources here which will help you make the best choices, deal with any side effects or possible outcomes, use them for your research as it's important for you to take control of your decisions and be as informed as you can so that you don't have anything to spook you :)