sunnysidedown
should I kill myself, or have a cup of coffee?
- Jun 28, 2023
- 26
I'm getting increasingly worried that I am unable to differentiate from my delusions and my rational thoughts… how do I know if I can trust myself?
Ash
What dreams may come?
- Oct 4, 2021
- 1,758
I know you've played this in Suicide Discussion but I think that suicide is something that should be done by someone in their rational mind and therefore my honest answer is to pick up the phone and get medical help. If nothing is available right now because it's the weekend and you'd rather talk to a trusted doctor, call a friend or family member or someone else you trust. You don't have to explain or go into detail. Just say you're not feeling well and ask to be kept company or to stay the night in the spare room or whatever until you can see the doctor.
And then, whenever that is, be absolutely honest. If you don't think you can be, write it down. Ant experiences thoughts, delusions, voices (if appropriate) - the lot. Nobody can help if they don't know the whole story.
And also have a think about what you expect and want to happen. And what you don't want. And write that down too.
If there's someone you trust who can come along and help take notes or whatever, that's great as these things are really stressful but don't worry if not. The important thing is that you recognise right now what's going on and that you're not comfortable with it and that you don't want it to continue.
I hope you can get it sorted xx
And then, whenever that is, be absolutely honest. If you don't think you can be, write it down. Ant experiences thoughts, delusions, voices (if appropriate) - the lot. Nobody can help if they don't know the whole story.
And also have a think about what you expect and want to happen. And what you don't want. And write that down too.
If there's someone you trust who can come along and help take notes or whatever, that's great as these things are really stressful but don't worry if not. The important thing is that you recognise right now what's going on and that you're not comfortable with it and that you don't want it to continue.
I hope you can get it sorted xx
ijustwishtodie
death will be my ultimate bliss
- Oct 29, 2023
- 5,191
How will them telling a professional about their issues clarify as to whether they are thinking rationally or not? Even if they were thinking rationally, a professional wouldn't think that they are as, to them, any reasons to die is irrational no matter what the reasons actually are. Relying on normies to let you know whether your suicidal ideation is irrational or not is perhaps one of the worst ways to judge irrationality
Maybe look for evidence for/against your beliefs and present it to someone you trust ?
If it's a delusion then you might see things as evidence that aren't actually evidence. So it can be hard to interpret yourself. If you can get an outside person's view then they might be able to give you some insight .
bishopxowiki
Bishop
- Jan 9, 2024
- 47
There are different ways to tell when you're not thinking rationally, like when you let emotions dictate your thoughts and decisions, jumping to conclusions without evidence, or seeking information that confirms your existing beliefs etc. I think it's very easy to fall into irrational thinking/delusional thinking when it comes to suicide, both by yourself and others, relying on normies to judge the rationality of your suicidal ideation is pretty much pointless (11 out of 10 are going to judge it as irrational regardless). I would suggest finding someone you trust to be rational and present them with the facts(this is assuming they are willing to engage/hear you out)but such people are hard to find, so it boils down to you to try as much as possible to avoid emotional pitfalls when making decisions about suicide.
Trust your instincts, trust your experiences, don't rush to be too hard on yourself, consider what is reasonable and pragmatic, take time out to have a break if necessary. Know when to separate yourself from intensity, sometimes it clouds judgement and perspective even from the most secure foundation. (Sorry if I sound like Yoda, I just like the question haha)
