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HelpHow deep would a bathub have to be for drowning?
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I think drowning is going to be the method. However I have to drive a lot to get to the coast, and it scares me too much. Would rather drown at home. How deep does a bathub have to be for that? Like, it covers my head, but will my unconscious body remove too much water?
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Not very deep. It's only important that nose and mouth are covered with water. Basically, you can drown in a bowl or bucket, too. It's all about not being able to breath air. Drowning is suffocation.
Sorry if this has already been asked, but what about stepping in front of speeding traffic on a motorway? The only drawback being that other people would end up traumatised. Besides how cruel that is to impose your death on other unsuspecting people... you are more likely to just end up being...
I don't really know how your mind is gonna let your body drown, intoxicated or not. I'm also not sure if there's any true method that'd knock you out and would make your body okay with just drowning. Even then, you could just make yourself stand up or thrash in a way that'll get you air.
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Sorry if this has already been asked, but what about stepping in front of speeding traffic on a motorway? The only drawback being that other people would end up traumatised. Besides how cruel that is to impose your death on other unsuspecting people... you are more likely to just end up being...
The "excessively painful" part is rather questionable even when no any analgesic or anesthetic agent is used to mitigate discomfort. Some users reported the absence of significant pain
Viability of drowning? I live in a coastal region, so naturally I've been growing an affection for the sea. When it comes to CTB, FSH has been the way I've accepted I'll do it. I wonder how it might compare? Hanging is more painful, but considering I get the technique right I should be lights...
I do not think I would rely on helium because it is rare on Earth and we have a limited amount, therefore it will be harder to find. I plan on just going down to the store and buying some nice rope, and then going home and tying a nice noose. That is, if I finally decide to do it. I don't know...
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And if discomfort is a big concern, the person should just use fast-acting anesthetics like concentrated Nâ‚‚O.
As for reliability,
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The mentioned fatality rate for drowning seems to be a bit too good for an "unreliable non-method".
The "excessively painful" part is rather questionable even when no any analgesic or anesthetic agent is used to mitigate discomfort. Some users reported the absence of significant pain
Viability of drowning? I live in a coastal region, so naturally I've been growing an affection for the sea. When it comes to CTB, FSH has been the way I've accepted I'll do it. I wonder how it might compare? Hanging is more painful, but considering I get the technique right I should be lights...
I do not think I would rely on helium because it is rare on Earth and we have a limited amount, therefore it will be harder to find. I plan on just going down to the store and buying some nice rope, and then going home and tying a nice noose. That is, if I finally decide to do it. I don't know...
sanctioned-suicide.net
And if discomfort is a big concern, the person should just use fast-acting anesthetics like concentrated Nâ‚‚O.
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The mentioned fatality rate for drowning seems to be a bit too good for an "unreliable non-method".
Mm yes, shallow water blackout. That may have less pain, and ofc, drowning kills many a year (and sleeping pills and similar may increase risk and reduce pain)... still, there are other methods available that can have 0 pain, and faster time to unconsciousness.
The aforementioned cases seem to refer to conscious drowning rather than shallow-water blackout.
In a well planned CTB by drowning, time to unconsciousness can be managed by auxiliary means. In particular, breathing concentrated Nâ‚‚O (or other asphyxiant gas like nitrogen, butane, or tetrafluoroethane) may cause fainting within half a minute. Asphyxiation with simple asphyxiants reduces blood oxygen saturation similarly to drowning, but much faster and typically without unpleasant symptoms. So basically it's possible to use 2-stage asphyxiation to CTB:
1) gas asphyxiation to induce loss of consciousness painlessly,
2) asphyxiation by water (after consciousness is lost) to cause death.
Nâ‚‚O has an advantage over Nâ‚‚ because of additional dissociative and analgesic properties, mitigating any possible disturbance in the semi-conscious state.
The aforementioned cases seem to refer to conscious drowning rather than shallow-water blackout.
In a well planned CTB by drowning, time to unconsciousness can be managed by auxiliary means. In particular, breathing concentrated Nâ‚‚O (or other asphyxiant gas like nitrogen, butane, or tetrafluoroethane) may cause fainting within half a minute. Gas asphyxiation reduces blood oxygen saturation similarly to drowning, but much faster and typically without unpleasant symptoms. So basically it's possible to use 2-stage asphyxiation to CTB:
1) gas asphyxiation to induce loss of consciousness painlessly,
2) asphyxiation by water (after consciousness is lost) to cause death.
Nâ‚‚O has an advantage over Nâ‚‚ because of additional dissociative and analgesic properties, mitigating any possible disturbance in the semi-conscious state.
I just don't get why complicate things with gas and water vs just gas. I have a feeling 2 or so tanks of nitrogen would turn a car into a coffin... but idk the volume of air and amount of litres needed.
I just don't get why complicate things with gas and water vs just gas. I have a feeling 2 or so tanks of nitrogen would turn a car into a coffin... but idk the volume of air and amount of litres needed.
If you consider the whole procedure in each case, you may notice that gas asphyxiation + drowning could be more simple than gas asphyxiation to death with a comparable level of reliability. A large pool of water is a very simple and very reliable insulator between the lungs and oxygen from the ambient atmosphere. The process of inducing loss of consciousness can be as easy as presented on the videos below
If you consider the whole procedure in each case, you may notice that gas asphyxiation + drowning could be more simple than gas asphyxiation to death with a comparable level of reliability. A large pool of water is a very simple and very reliable insulator between the lungs and oxygen from the ambient atmosphere. The process of inducing loss of consciousness can be as easy as presented on the videos below
yes, one can easily go unconscious.... but if one doesn't fall correctly in the water one will wake up.... and none of the videos show water.
I can't exclude the possibility of somehow ending up on one's side and breathing an air water mix and briefly waking to drown... or ending up on one's back and waking normally.
Some practice may help with that. I never had abrupt loss of control over the body in my experiments. There was always a short period after noticeable onset of symptoms during which well coordinated movements were still possible. You can see how the guy on the second video above managed to land properly once he realized that fainting was coming.
I can't exclude the possibility of somehow ending up on one's side and breathing an air water mix and briefly waking to drown... or ending up on one's back and waking normally.
Attaching weights to the neck or the chest reduces such chances to nearly zero. There are theoretical reasons to think that regaining partial consciousness can be possible, but the sensitivity to discomfort would likely be severely reduced in this state, especially under the effects of Nâ‚‚O.
Some practice may help with that. I never had abrupt loss of control over the body in my experiments. There was always a short period after noticeable onset of symptoms during which well coordinated movements were still possible. You can see how the guy on the second video above managed to land properly once he realized that fainting was coming.
Attaching weights to the neck or the chest reduces such chances to nearly zero. There are theoretical reasons to think that regaining partial consciousness can be possible, but the sensitivity to discomfort would likely be severely reduced in this state, especially under the effects of Nâ‚‚O.
The issue is I don't really have any way to get to a lake. That's why I was hoping that I could rent a place, like an 'aparthotel,' with a bathtub and do it there instead. But idk how severe the convulsions are or whether weights would be enough to prevent flipping over. I'm not as worried about the noise because a) it wouldn't be a hotel, b) water slows movements and muffles sound.
This post received quite some traction. Life is so complicated... If I lived alone I could just buy a pool and use hyperventilation + asphyxiant gas and it would be over so quickly. But unfortunately, I live with family.
Gotta meditate a bit more. Keep my mind fresh. Thanks for the replies.
I think, convulsions are probably not an issue, but directional movements (which are also possible) could have some little chances of moving the head out of water.
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This description reminds me of some weird movements that people can sometimes do during hanging
Due to health issues and tragic incidents surrounding my life I donot have enough energy to research about methods of hanging or about pesticides. My SN was taken by my mother one year ago and it's not available in my city, I enquired it. 2 days ago I saw in news a girl committed suicide by...
I think, convulsions are probably not an issue, but directional movements (which are also possible) could have some little chances of moving the head out of water.
This post received quite some traction. Life is so complicated... If I lived alone I could just buy a pool and use hyperventilation + asphyxiant gas and it would be over so quickly. But unfortunately, I live with family.
Gotta meditate a bit more. Keep my mind fresh. Thanks for the replies.
I think, convulsions are probably not an issue, but directional movements (which are also possible) could have some little chances of moving the head out of water. [Hidden content]
This description reminds me of some weird movements that people can sometimes do during hanging [Hidden content]
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Hi...Tell me please, if I drink a lot of alcohol (let's say something strong, about 40%, whiskey or vodka), will it reduce the pain in i drowning in bath?
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