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Superdeterminist

Superdeterminist

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They can't be 100% certain, but if the patient doesn't show any signs of distress, that's really as good as we can get, until perhaps we can one day read the brain during the dying process and check for signals known to represent pain/discomfort.
 
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Euthanza

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They can't be 100% certain, but if the patient doesn't show any signs of distress, that's really as good as we can get, until perhaps we can one day read the brain during the dying process and check for signals known to represent pain/discomfort.

They refuse brain scanner for some personal reasons.
 
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locked*n*loaded

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No one can be 100% certain. It's all based on what is known or understood. The unknown unknowns provide the asterisks *.
 
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Ta555

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Also reports from people who survived. Like there was a chap on here a long time ago who survived because he got emergency medical treatment after going unconscious and be said he didn't feel or remember anything. Just went out.
 
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nolifer

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Dec 25, 2020
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I've been thinking recently if I should try to save up some money and relocate to a country which has assisted suicide so I've just begun to look into the method they use.

It sounds great that the first injection they give you is only to put you asleep.

But the debate they had about the doctor judging if they're suffering by their outward appearance after they have received a heavy dose of paralyzing injection, in the article sounded scary. It reminded me of watching this video a long time ago:
 
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Ta555

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I've been thinking recently if I should try to save up some money and relocate to a country which has assisted suicide so I've just begun to look into the method they use.

It sounds great that the first injection they give you is only to put you asleep.

But the debate they had about the doctor judging if they're suffering by their outward appearance after they have received a heavy dose of paralyzing injection, in the article sounded scary. It reminded me of watching this video a long time ago:

Lethal injection and euthanasia are two different things. Lethal injection can use up to three drugs. Euthanasia in European clinics only uses N as far as I'm aware.
 
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nolifer

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Lethal injection and euthanasia are two different things. Lethal injection can use up to three drugs. Euthanasia in European clinics only uses N as far as I'm aware.
Can you give or point to more info about this? I just did a search and it seems like a few countries only allow it if patients are terminally ill or in great suffering and uncurable. So that's not going to work. I saw switzerland has some kind of exception where the doctor can prepare the syringe for you, but you have to take it yourself, and it sounds like it's N like you said. I don't want to go out that way, it takes too long time. I only like it if I can be quickly put to sleep first, preferably within a few seconds, and then the killer injection come. Otherwise I'll probably go back to contemplating on long drop hanging or firearms.
 
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Ta555

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Can you give or point to more info about this? I just did a search and it seems like a few countries only allow it if patients are terminally ill or in great suffering and uncurable. So that's not going to work. I saw switzerland has some kind of exception where the doctor can prepare the syringe for you, but you have to take it yourself, and it sounds like it's N like you said. I don't want to go out that way, it takes too long time. I only like it if I can be quickly put to sleep first, preferably within a few seconds, and then the killer injection come. Otherwise I'll probably go back to contemplating on long drop hanging or firearms.
I'm not going to give you a lot of information because I literally have covid right and feel absolutely horrible and am wishing I were dead and keep looking at the N so I don't have the mental energy to research for you. Lethal injection is what's used in prisons to execute people. It is usually made up of a muscle paralyser and a sedative and idk what else. It's not that hard to research.
European countries like Netherlands, Belgium and Switzerland allow assisted suicide for people in a lot of suffering even if they don't have terminal illness. The clinics that do this in Switzerland use N. You have the choice of getting it through an IV which makes you pass out in like ten seconds, or taking it as a drink, which makes you pass out after a few minutes. N is what kills you. It's an overdose of anesthetic.
 
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