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Prideathwish

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Anyone knows how much heroine and other drugs can be used to achieve sucide. I have never used any so I don't have any tolerance level
 
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Prideathwish

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I read 0.3 can help achieve death
 
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EddieAllenPoe

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According to @Jayxtri 's link, it's saying that Heroin overdose is a myth. In other words, if you try to overdose on heroin you will more than likely live... and wind up being addicted to Heroin.
 
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Prideathwish

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What if I haven't eat nor drink anything for days and chase it with a bottle of vodka
 
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limelight

limelight

I'm probably high while writing this crap.
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I've read several places that a normal users dose can kill you if you're new to it. Sounds like the most comfortable way to leave this shithole. I've never tried it though, and I never will.
 
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Prideathwish

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How much is normal users doses
 
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neveranyhope

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According to @Jayxtri 's link, it's saying that Heroin overdose is a myth. In other words, if you try to overdose on heroin you will more than likely live... and wind up being addicted to Heroin.
I really don't think that's true. I've known several addicts who have died from overdose (not F, pure H). If an addict can die from it, so can a sober person.
 
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neveranyhope

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That article is over 20 years old. A LOT has changed in the last 20 years. Heroin use was on the decline in the late 90s. After 9/11 sent the Taliban into the poppy business and Purdue pharma pumped this country full of opiates, heroin has gotten more potent.
How much is normal users doses

I think getting a couple bags will do. It's not expensive and you don't have to shoot it you can snort it.
 
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Be aware that heroin overdoses can make you stop breathing. This will cut the supply of oxygen to your brain. If you survive the overdose your brain may have taken serious damage. Try to avoid becoming a vegetable.
 
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limelight

limelight

I'm probably high while writing this crap.
Mar 15, 2019
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That article is over 20 years old. A LOT has changed in the last 20 years. Heroin use was on the decline in the late 90s. After 9/11 sent the Taliban into the poppy business and Purdue pharma pumped this country full of opiates, heroin has gotten more potent.


I think getting a couple bags will do. It's not expensive and you don't have to shoot it you can snort it.

I think shooting will be better for an OD. It's a different kind of high, people say it's a much better and different from just snorting
 
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Memento Mori

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According to @Jayxtri 's link, it's saying that Heroin overdose is a myth. In other words, if you try to overdose on heroin you will more than likely live... and wind up being addicted to Heroin.

yup. and if you just wanna have some fun you may die accidentaly lol


single source is not good, a combination of other breath depressing substances is better. (barbiturates, alcohol, benzodiazepines, opioides, ketamine, GHB may be breath depressing too i'm not sure)

Be aware that heroin overdoses can make you stop breathing. This will cut the supply of oxygen to your brain. If you survive the overdose your brain may have taken serious damage. Try to avoid becoming a vegetable.

^this

but does that mean to you that every high causes little brain damage because of breathing depression for some time? weed somehow cuts the oxygen supply to your brain too if i don't remember something wrong...now that makes me feel dumb lol


and to me snorting sounds like bullshit. or it's just me...anyways, you need pure heroine for both methods to make it work. or 2kg of dirty brown H lol

I think shooting will be better for an OD. It's a different kind of high, people say it's a much better and different from just snorting

of course it's better and different^^ reaches your blood, your brain, in some seconds. i don't know what to except from i.V. OD, maybe your heart is stinging and you feel like your body explodes, maybe it's just the ultimate orgasmic euphory and you enjoy it while your breathing goes slower and slower...heroin makes you don't care anyways
 
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chrijo

chrijo

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Feb 8, 2019
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I've consumed heroin many times and I'm not an addict. I love opiates and I want to die from them. It's like a warm hug from your loved one before you pass out in seconds. Intravenous is the way - 2g upwards, combine it with benzos and alcohol and lie on your back.
 
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Memento Mori

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I've consumed heroin many times and I'm not an addict. I love opiates and I want to die from them. It's like a warm hug from your loved one before you pass out in seconds. Intravenous is the way - 2g upwards, combine it with benzos and alcohol and lie on your back.

how to inject 2g dude? :D
that's why i mentioned u need pure stuff. i think if u have to take 2grams of heroin with the other stuff, you will pass out before finishing all necessary injections and may not reach the point where u die. it's not nice to wake up in pain or with brain damage :( a bigger amount like 2g could also be swallowed, should act strong enough in combination with other stuff if it's not the worst H ever ^^
 
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dandan

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One more attempt on life.
Feb 18, 2019
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I would exchange my two bottle of N for a large triple OD weight of heroin, I rather go with H... .in a big warm hug :D

quality of H is a big problem...
 
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chrijo

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how to inject 2g dude? :D
that's why i mentioned u need pure stuff. i think if u have to take 2grams of heroin with the other stuff, you will pass out before finishing all necessary injections and may not reach the point where u die. it's not nice to wake up in pain or with brain damage :( a bigger amount like 2g could also be swallowed, should act strong enough in combination with other stuff if it's not the worst H ever ^^
It's not so tragic if you can't get the full 2g in. A lot of people are found dead with a half-empty syringe in their vein. Even before they had it all shot they were already unconscious, stop breathing and fly straight to the sky. Alcohol, benzos and heroin is a dangerous combination :-)
 
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drakewantstogo

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Nov 9, 2018
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why don't you just get fentanyl or carfentanyl?
 
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Addy92

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You can snort heroin? Just changed my method.
I can definitely access this too.
 
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dandan

dandan

One more attempt on life.
Feb 18, 2019
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You can snort heroin? Just changed my method.
I can definitely access this too.
you could but definitely not recommended by my addicted friends, definitely not a way to ctb, you'll first bleed from your nose to death before ctb I assume, no no, even if not bleed to death I cant imagine the bad trip.... no no no

vein
 
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silentsinger

silentsinger

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Mar 1, 2019
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Never tried Heorin but it has crossed my mind a lot in terms of how I might go.
 
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Ashton

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If you are not used to it then the first couple of attempts you will end up being literally sick all over the place and then you'll probably end up addicted then a spell in rehab to try and wear yourself off it .
 
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Death.

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Jan 5, 2019
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A heroin overdose, or an overdose on any opioid for that matter, will not only be peaceful but will be EUPHORIC! lol. Really though, the main risk with this type of overdose is suffocating on your own vomit which I presume will not be too pleasant...
 
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Umbra

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Mar 15, 2019
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You can snort heroin? Just changed my method.
I can definitely access this too.
Snorting it makes you lose so much potency of the drug. If your goal is to die the way to do it is injection.
 
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EddieAllenPoe

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I never did heroin, but if you're looking for fun ways to kill yourself... don't forget tobacco. I'll never forget the first day that I actually inhaled. I've hated every day that followed because I couldn't shake the habit. But... hey... cigarettes will kill you too.
 
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FauxEmotions

Tod durch das Seil
Mar 28, 2019
194
I never did heroin, but if you're looking for fun ways to kill yourself... don't forget tobacco. I'll never forget the first day that I actually inhaled. I've hated every day that followed because I couldn't shake the habit. But... hey... cigarettes will kill you too.

If a devil drug exists, that's it. Hate that it has such a hold me.
 
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Davy

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Mar 24, 2019
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This is my plan, combine this method with the SN method along with some benzos and say goodnight to the world.
 
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Ruffian

Ruffian

Jumpin Jack Flash, it’s a gas gas gas
Jan 16, 2019
696
I was reading through this thread and quickly became impatient. I have used heroin off and on over my life, without turning into the stereotypical junkie. I have used many other drugs, including prescribed medications. And I've done A Lot of research. I really love this forum and users, but going back and forth speculating about whether or not heroin will kill is not helping anyone seriously considering it as a viable form of suicide, which it is, even though it's not in the PPH.

I'm assuming a lot of you in this forum are young, because You are so used to being constantly hit with information that it's difficult to separate facts from opinion. We're in the era of "fake news" which makes it worse. What someone says in an online forum without a link to an actual document should not immediately be taken as gospel or even worth the effort of arguing with. Links to online articles are better, like the one above. But then you have to look at the source. If the source is the Mayo Clinic it's probably a good source. If it has some unknown medical title and there are ads for addiction treatment or depression medications everywhere, I'd be skeptical. And make sure you are not getting drug information from some drug rehab site - their information is presented in such a way that EVERY drug is dangerous, addicting, and can kill you. I've seen rehabs advertising Seroquel addiction. Really? Most doctors can't even convince people to stay on it.

Someone posted a link in this thread to a very good jumping off point to do actual RESEARCH written by the medical community on how effective a heroin overdose could be. The authors clearly state by itself it is NOT, and list the amounts someone who never used vs. someone with tolerance could survive, and they are high .3 grams is a joke - it could be a nice night out for just a moderate user. You need to understand what tolerance is, and no, you dont wake up after taking 1overdose you failed and become an addict. If you dive into RESEARCH, the actual percentage of people exposed to heroin or prescribed opioids who go on to become full on addicts is very low, I forget the actual numbers, but 5% is a good ballpark.

What is going on now with the opiate epidemic is what happed with marijuana in the 1950s onward. It keeps the funds rolling for the War on Drugs started by Nixon in the 1970s due to LSD and other shit. The amount of misinformation out there is mind boggling. I've believed a lot of incorrect shit, too, but I've done tons of work the last few years studying how addiction can be spun to profit all kinds of people.

So how how do you learn to increase your chances of succeeding with a fatal overdose? N and pure, pharmaceutical grade Fentanyl are the most reliable, but good luck getting either. Yes, most heroin today is cut with Fentanyl, but that's because it fits the business model. The lillicit stuff from China is a cheap way to cut heroin which is less potent. If you don't understand what I mean by an illegal drug business model, I suggest you check out Season 1 of the Wire, which is a good representation of the East Coast/Major Cities model. There are countless others, but this one shows heroin in particular. Plus it's just a great show in general that is not feel-good or positive and as close to real as a TV show can be. If you have not lived near a US city and interacted with the black community the dialogue may be difficult to understand in some places. Subtitles help a lot, but there still may be some slang that is unfamiliar. Check Urban Dictionary.

No drug dealer is going to intentionally overdose ALL of his customers. If you are not a regular user you won't be in the pipeline to find out a particular batch hit the streets that people are overdosing on. If you live near a major city and you want to ctb, wait for it to hit the news as as PSA that people are overdosing in flocks. Then run to your closest open-air market with about $150. (Kidding, kind of) If you're afraid of being arrested or shot in that neighborhood, man up. A. Being a first time drug offender is not the end of the world for most young people unless you already have a record, and b. You want to die anyway, right? Just educate yourself on how to properly approach a street dealer. If you get in the ballpark where I can tell you're sincere, I may be able to help, not promising though. I'll definitely ask a lot of questions. Even now, to give yourself the best possible chance to OD, you need to combine it with something like Valium or Xanax.

I realize I'm being annoying, but in addition to being here to figure out my true desire if I really do want to ctb, the more I read I want to really try to challenge people's ideas about drugs that have been learned incorrectly through the media whose sole purpose is sell shit.

Try Dr. Carl Hart Jr. as a good starting place. He has a few YouTube videos explaining how research on drugs isn't even set up properly. He talks mostly about cocaine and meth, but the same applies to heroin. Learn about all opioids & what you may have at your disposal already. If you want to use an opioid prescription drug to OD, learn what the generic term means and how to read the milligrams. Percocet and Vicodin contain Tylenol and you would need a bucket of the opiate in them to OD. But you will have taken a fatal OD of Tylenol. If that's what you think you want, Google that shit.

There is another reliable drug cocktail to OD on, but again you need to understand how the drugs work, what will be happening in the body, how much time do you need, how to get them without going to jail, etc.

Finally, I know you want to die soon and as easily possible, everyone here pretty much does. We're afraid of jumping or can't get a gun or other reasons. But what I'm starting to realize is death is very patient. Unless you're ready to jump or walk in front of an Amtrak, we need to be patient with death.

Ok kids, grandmom will turn the the lantern down for now. Please take away from this that drugs and especially poisonous plants can be one of the most horrific ways to go and can cause ALL KINDS OF ORGAN damage. You will most likely cave and call 911 and now have a brand new extra set of problems. Be skeptical of any overdose you read about where just one drug was used unless it was N or medically obtained Fentanyl.

Like I said, I'm not trying to be a bitch, but drugs are nothing to fool around with.
 
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Ruffian

Ruffian

Jumpin Jack Flash, it’s a gas gas gas
Jan 16, 2019
696
This is my plan, combine this method with the SN method along with some benzos and say goodnight to the world.
You, sir or miss? are a goddamn genius. I wonder if anyone else ever thought up this combination? I was thinking about SN because I've survived like 5 intentional ODs with no damage. I'm a beast when it comes to drugs, so OD is out of the question. I wonder would they interfere with action of the SN?
I think shooting will be better for an OD. It's a different kind of high, people say it's a much better and different from just snorting
I've done both and would say injecting is better for about the first minute, and believe me it is one of the best minutes on earth. After that you're blissed out for another 5-7 minutes, and basically taper off into the same nod as snorting. That's the difference. I decided after listening to my junkie friends to forgo the needle. Not only is it intense, but just injecting in general, the ritual around it, etc. with any drug is its own kind of addiction/obsession.
 
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sui3

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what do you think about an infusion to get all the stuff inside?
 
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