I wonder if there might be more outrage and drive to change things if there was news every day of so many people (and it would be very many more if it was safe, easy, legal) choosing death rather than go on in terrible conditions.
Perhaps it would nursing homes and other institutions to change as besides the social/political pressure, they would also see they were losing more money as there were now fewer customers.
Honestly it's not just nursing homes. Even family members abuse their own elderly they are in care of. For example, third-world countries like to pride themselves with not abandoning their elderly but everytime I visited my demented grandmother in her village, I could sense that my aunt wasn't very nice to her, to put it lightly. It's also because a lot of children bottle up resentment towards their parents and burst when the parent becomes defenseless. It's also traumatising to see your parents losing their mind and being forced to take care of them can also be another source of resentment.
In those cases, I don't see how they could be "helped" from wanting to end their lives.
I don't see any reason to try to "help" them from wanting to end it if they are old? (and even if they are not old). I'm in favor of suicide being accessible to anyone regardless of the reason. But it doesn't mean to advertise for suicide either, but rather for the easy access to peaceful exit.
Who offered him the 15M? If they're willing to offer that kind of money then the potential loss that they'd suffer if he continued investigating is much, much more.
Yes, you're right. it IS much much more since people put their entire life savings into retirement. €15M is only the retirement of 15 people combined (approximately) or less.
Yet everyone seems to agree it's more compassionate for the pet dog to be put to sleep if quality of life is very low. But grandma begging for death in the nursing home? Nah, she can suffer some more.
That's the part that gets me. It's mostly because of ingrained religious belief that suicide is bad no matter what and that "only" God can decide who dies. Yet, the belief that only God can decide who dies doesn't see to stop governments from ordering war and killing certain people?
Honestly I will write about this another day but nursing homes are worse than jail especially during covid it was hell
and the food is disgusting, just like in hospitals.
The sad thing is, the more we wait, the worst things get for this generation of elderly. Because demented individuals can't decide to kill themselves (because of their mental state). They would have needed to sign papers that specify that they would like to be peacefully put down if they ever developped dementia (if we lived in a world with access legal easy access to easy death.
This means that even if peaceful euthanasia became legal today, it wouldn't matter for the people who are already demented today since they have lost their ability to make these kinds of important decisions. If a demented elderly says "I want to die" it'll be impossible to know if he is making this decision from a place of reason or madness. That's the issue.
People don't put their dogs down because of compassion but because an ill or disabled dog is too much of a hassle, costs too much money and doesn't bring them enough joy anymore.
True honestly.
Now l haven't gotten personal about anything here, sure I've criticised the "the answer to poor quality care is euthanasia" theme but that's nothing to get too worked up over, I'd have thought. The very notion that you'd block somebody for saying that the answer to poor social care is not death but good social care says a damn sight more about you than it does about me.
I refuse your request btw, starting a thread on a public forum does not give you ownership of the replies, it's on you to scroll past or simply put me on ignore, which you are absolutely free to do, but l will post wherever l like, it's a forum.
have you at least noticed that you're the only person who interpreted my words this way? my answer to you was taking into account my other interactions with you and the tone of your posts on SS in general.
It's nothing personal on my side either. I simply do not like the virtue signaling tone you have and your need to get attention by distorting my words and acting like you're the voice of reason.
On SS, many members are recurring members who often repeat themselves. My opinion wasn't "half-baked". Everyone got it but you. I also didn't need to make the post any longer sincey post is simple the contuation of a conversation. People are able to tell what I mean without me having to write 3 pages. I very rarely need to explain myself on ss because people just are on the same level. and you could still have asked if you needed more explanation.
You always sound unecessarily patronising for some reason.
