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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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After new attempts to fix my keyboard it still has issues.

I think I am kind obsessed by my own suicide I think about it everyday and ruminate how I could avoid it. I don't really see a good way out though.

There were some events that shaped my relation to suicide and death.

Of course the abuse that happened. I think due to the domestic violence I had some fantasies to violently punish me. Though I recognized hurting myself just makes me feel way worse. At least when I do it physically.

Many people say the childhood has huge influence on your worldview and development, And mine was quite brutal. Not sure whether this is fully scientific and to which degree the childhood is decisive. The teenage years probably have a big impact too. Though these years were for me nightmarish too.

I think I internalized many things my parents told me. I always wanted to be a good kid that listens to his parents. I was punished nevertheless quite arbitrarily.

The first time I really thought about suicide was I think when my mom and dad talked about catastrophes. I think there was a storm and my parents read it in the newspaper. My mom said something like if there is such a huge catastrophe we would search protection in the basement. And she would take medication with her so that they can euthanize the children peacefully in case the catastrophe became apocalyptic.
To be honest I don't blame my mom for saying that. The abuse was way worse and left way more damage. But I think due to her remarks I associated suicide as a peaceful and easy way out if things became ugly. Maybe I overestimate the impact of her remarks. I am not sure maybe it is just accidental. I think I can trace the impact of the abuse way more accurately.
But due to fictional series and remarks of stupid people I thought suicide was easy. In some series they just take sleeping pills and alcohol and then they are dead. I was so naive.

Then there was my first suicidal thought. I had an argument with my mom in the car. She screamed at me. And I thought why not jumping out of the car. We were on a highway. When I realized this was a suicidal thought I felt guilty, bad and maybe a little bit dirty. I sometimes visited church and often they portray suicide there as immoral. I was a conservative when I was a teenager. When I had suicidal thoughts I felt guilty and maybe evil for it. I thought maybe I deserve it (quite an unnecessary thought) and I was anxious about hell. During my first major depression I felt so anxious about hell. I had horrible nightmares about getting punished for it. My halfway religious education made me feel way worse when I experienced severe suicidality. When I read more atheism this could comfort me and alleviate my pain a little bit. I could not name a single event that shaped my relation to religion. I think I had the naive notion God was fair and if I was well-behaved I would get rewarded. The opposite happened though.

My opinion on assisted suicide was shaped when we talked about it in religious class. I wrote a long thread about it once.I was quite savvy and destroyed some people who were fully against assisted suicide. I was kind of a contrarian at that time. Even my religious teacher was impressed by my line of argumentation.

Can you name some events that shaped your views on suicide?
 
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Apr 5, 2022
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After new attempts to fix my keyboard it still has issues.

I think I am kind obsessed by my own suicide I think about it everyday and ruminate how I could avoid it. I don't really see a good way out though.

There were some events that shaped my relation to suicide and death.

Of course the abuse that happened. I think due to the domestic violence I had some fantasies to violently punish me. Though I recognized hurting myself just makes me feel way worse. At least when I do it physically.

Many people say the childhood has huge influence on your worldview and development, And mine was quite brutal. Not sure whether this is fully scientific and to which degree the childhood is decisive. The teenage years probably have a big impact too. Though these years were for me nightmarish too.

I think I internalized many things my parents told me. I always wanted to be a good kid that listens to his parents. I was punished nevertheless quite arbitrarily.

The first time I really thought about suicide was I think when my mom and dad talked about catastrophes. I think there was a storm and my parents read it in the newspaper. My mom said something like if there is such a huge catastrophe we would search protection in the basement. And she would take medication with her so that they can euthanize the children peacefully in case the catastrophe became apocalyptic.
To be honest I don't blame my mom for saying that. The abuse was way worse and left way more damage. But I think due to her remarks I associated suicide as a peaceful and easy way out if things became ugly. Maybe I overestimate the impact of her remarks. I am not sure maybe it is just accidental. I think I can trace the impact of the abuse way more accurately.
But due to fictional series and remarks of stupid people I thought suicide was easy. In some series they just take sleeping pills and alcohol and then they are dead. I was so naive.

Then there was my first suicidal thought. I had an argument with my mom in the car. She screamed at me. And I thought why not jumping out of the car. We were on a highway. When I realized this was a suicidal thought I felt guilty, bad and maybe a little bit dirty. I sometimes visited church and often they portray suicide there as immoral. I was a conservative when I was a teenager. When I had suicidal thoughts I felt guilty and maybe evil for it. I thought maybe I deserve it (quite an unnecessary thought) and I was anxious about hell. During my first major depression I felt so anxious about hell. I had horrible nightmares about getting punished for it. My halfway religious education made me feel way worse when I experienced severe suicidality. When I read more atheism this could comfort me and alleviate my pain a little bit. I could not name a single event that shaped my relation to religion. I think I had the naive notion God was fair and if I was well-behaved I would get rewarded. The opposite happened though.

My opinion on assisted suicide was shaped when we talked about it in religious class. I wrote a long thread about it once.I was quite savvy and destroyed some people who were fully against assisted suicide. I was kind of a contrarian at that time. Even my religious teacher was impressed by my line of argumentation.

Can you name some events that shaped your views on suicide?
Only my girlfriend's death, which was, and still is, traumatic
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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In my case, just being aware of the reality of this existence has made me believe that suicide is the more rational option than continuing to suffer. And I've always found the thought of death to be comforting as long as I've been aware of the concept of death. Permanent sleep will always be preferable to existing no matter what.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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I had a string of close family deaths in early childhood- Mum when I was 3, Grandpa 4, Nana 10, Grandma 19. Think I've always been preoccupied by the thought of death as a result.

First considered suicide aged 10 when things got really bad after my Dad remarried. Don't entirely know where the thought even came from. Just that I was so unhappy, I simply didn't want to carry on. I do remember initially the thought frightened me but it's become a normal part of my thinking since.

Think- like you, most portrayed suicides I saw in film or on TV, I saw as an act of mercy to end someone's suffering, or a positive act of independence. Just like you though- I got the impression it was easy to achieve. It's kind of lucky I didn't act on my impulses as a child as they involved fairly unreliable methods- slashing wrists/ OD-ing on paracetamol- no internet back then.

Not that I have had much experience with tarot cards but a friend used to do readings and death usually comes up for me. It always seems sort of reassuring in a way- like an old friend- so long as it's my own death this time! Interesting thread. Thanks.
 
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firefish

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Oct 14, 2022
9
i have been off and on suicidal since i was 12 but i think my parents talking about getting me locked up in a mental hospital when i pissed them off helped like it gave me a safe space in my mind like no one can force you to do anything if youre dead.
 
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letsmakeitagoodworl

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Sep 25, 2022
90
My heart failed 3x in late 2006 when I was 18, that seemed to be the start of suicidal thoughts, I don't think my heart stopping triggered suicidal thoughts but my life kinda fell apart at that time due to anorexia & other eating disorders. I also had a near death experience on one of the 3x, it was not nice & possibly was because I was hallucinating & delirious soon after, but that experience def made me more curious about NDEs, also the awful part was when I knew I was dying acutely in that moment I realised how badly I did NOT want to die, like this massive clarity & terror about what I accidentally done. That only made me more curious though because I would have thought such an eye opening experience would solidify not wanting to die & appreciating life but it didn't