Has anyone’s thoughts on suicide by a gun changed since they’ve seen videos of it?

[Life_isover128]

I remember i was so dead set on a simple 12 gauge blast to my head as my way put up until about a year or two ago. After seeing the Ronnie Mcnutt suicide video where he blew his head off with the shotgun my thinking has changed and I'm much more afraid of this method than I used to be. I remember how gruesome and shocking it was to see it. I've also seen some horrifying videos of people surviving blasts to the head from guns because they didn't aim correctly or flinched right before they fired so that's not helping me much. It's the most violent, horrific way to CTB imo

 

[Interloper]

Seeing the mcnutt video and others like it only strengthened my desire to use a shotgun, instant lights out. I would probably do it deep in a forest somewhere though.

 

[Life_isover128]

Seeing the mcnutt video and others like it only strengthened my desire to use a shotgun, instant lights out. I would probably do it deep in a forest somewhere though.

It was just incredibly shocking. You're right though he was dead in an instant

 

[Someone123]

I video I have seen on this site where a person blew his whole face off with a shotgun but survived made me think that a shotgun suicide to the head is probably the worst method to survive, and it's clearly not a 100% method, though it's a very high success rate. If you are very experiemced with firearms, and shotguns in particular, it helps the chances I am sure. I prefer a method like sn in which if you survoive the attempt there isi usually no lasting damage- I haven't heard of cases of lasting damage from this method, but if you are rescued at just the wrong time there could be- it is a very low risk method for lasting damage from a failed attempt based on many posts people have made here.

 

[FuneralCry]

I could never watch one of those videos. It would traumatise me. I have heard about that method failing and I know that if the gun method was available to me, I could never ctb that way. It sounds like such a brutal way to leave this world. I deserve a peaceful death, I want to fall asleep and never wake again.

 

[Life_isover128]

I could never watch one of those videos. It would traumatise me. I have heard about that method failing and I know that if the gun method was available to me, I could never ctb that way. It sounds like such a brutal way to leave this world. I deserve a peaceful death, I want to fall asleep and never wake again.

Wouldn't it be nice if we could all peacefully die in our sleep when we chose to?

 

[OldDrummer]

I've seen failures with even a shotgun, not pleasant. Too violent for me, even though I'm a shooter.

 

[UpandDownPrincess]

The method is too violent for me and would surely effect the person who found me in a profound way, but none of the videos I've seen have made me think less of firearms as a method.

Firearms, positioned even close to correctly, will work. Might not be instantaneous, but they'll work.

This place and other suicide resources tend to have lots of people who worry about controlling every scintilla of their ctb, when no guarantees are possible. But if so many scumbags, cops and others can successfully ctb by firearm without tons of planning or forethought, I can certainly plan my exit that way.

 

[symphony]

I'm too squeamish for violent methods, but beyond that, I've always thought of a bullet to the head as the best method out there, maybe even on par with N. A good friend of mine has chosen that method, but they're much more desensitized to violence than I am. Besides, I couldn't legally get a gun if I wanted to.

 

[UnravelingWinter]

I've seen a few videos of suicide by gun, and it's extremely disturbing, but it looks pretty instant. I think you're supposed to aim just behind your ear to take out the brainstem and it instantly stops your heart and breathing without even including the brain trauma.

 

[orange]

I can't imagine the level of agony blowing your face off and surviving would bring. Would you even be able to fully process what was happening? Funnily enough, a video of a man breathing like an asphyxiating fish on the floor with a bullet hole on his head is what finally made me leave r/fiftyfifty

 

[deleted]

On the contrary, it was the videos of ctb with weapons that fascinated me for a while I am looking for weapons to buy in particular a shotgun, a simple click and in a matter of seconds you leave this world without pain seems to be wonderful for me, I just give up of buying a weapon because of the price and difficulty

 

[HangmanCH]

Not having watched such videos. But the point of ctb with firearms is that it is instant as long as the bullet damages brainstem. So pistol should do a better job?

 

[Someone123]

Not having watched such videos. But the point of ctb with firearms is that it is instant as long as the bullet damages brainstem. So pistol should do a better job?

Usually getting a lot of damage to both hemispheres of the brain is what does it. The brainstem is about three inches long and one inch wide, if you aim for the brainstem you are very likely to miss it, especially considering the recoil of guns. When one person shoots another from behind and they can carefully place the gun then they can hit the brainstem.

 

[its-about-time]

I've viewed suicides with handguns, but not a shotgun. It is very sobering to watch either way.

While I was still with my most recent ex, her previous ex shot herself with a shotgun and survived. She essentially lost the majority of her face. After that, my then-gf expressed a very sad wish that the ex could take her life soon. I understand why. Unfortunately, after a failed significant attempt like that, you aren't really left alone much anymore and your opportunities to ctb become scarce.

 

[Someone123]

I've viewed suicides with handguns, but not a shotgun. It is very sobering to watch either way.

While I was still with my most recent ex, her previous ex shot herself with a shotgun and survived. She essentially lost the majority of her face. After that, my then-gf expressed a very sad wish that the ex could take her life soon. I understand why. Unfortunately, after a failed significant attempt like that, you aren't really left alone much anymore and your opportunities to ctb become scarce.

If a person loses half their face they should have the option to ctb medicaally, but of course they don't get this option. Life is tough enough as it is.

 

[OldDrummer]

Also have consideration for those in neighbouring properties. Certain calibre shells will merrily go through your head, through the wall and into the next apartment.

Also, the clean-up is pretty intense and usually requires replacement of dry-walls, ceilings and even floors.

 

[wearingmyheart]

i would be able to use a gun to kms if i was determined enough, but for now, i am just gonna use hanging.

 

[deathbydragon]

Only way to fail a gunshot is if you're aiming under your chin and pointing too far forward. Almost happened with Ronnie Mcnutt, but he got lucky.
If you know what to do then there's zero chance of that happening.

 

[rationaldeath]

Like @deathbydragon said, suicide by gunshot of sufficient caliber realistically only fails when the person doesn't understand where to aim, with under the chin being the worst culprit. In particular shooting yourself with a shotgun anywhere near the brainstem is pretty much equivalent to being decapitated by a guillotine in effectiveness and even superior in speed due to the brain actually being destroyed. Your consciousness is permanently ended before your brain can even register that the gun went off.

The instantaneous death part is why I don't really agree with calling it a violent method at least from your own perspective, you literally don't exist to perceive your head exploding. The person that finds the body will see a lot of blood and tissue, but there are steps you can take to minimize that (such as doing it in a remote place in nature giving the body time to decompose) and I imagine finding the body of a suicide victim is going to be traumatic regardless of the method. Also something to remember is since you cease exist when that trigger is pulled from "your perspective" the billions and trillions of years of the future will pass in an instant and everything you were or did will be of zero relative significance.

 

[Someone123]

Only way to fail a gunshot is if you're aiming under your chin and pointing too far forward. Almost happened with Ronnie Mcnutt, but he got lucky.
If you know what to do then there's zero chance of that happening.

I did a lot of research on gun suicide attempts, because it was my first choice method for a while, and there are significant survival rates from every angle- from the side of the head, inside the mouth, etc.- there is no angle that is even close to a 100% for a ctb rate. Also you can see videos on youtube from people who survived gunshot suicide attempts and they are people who shot from various angles, they were not just all from under the chin. One shows a person with a big chunk of his brain missing in the temple area- this was eventually corrected through surgery so that his head had a more normal shape when they put some material in this area to replace the bone. One shows a young cheerleader who was paralyzed by her gun sujcide attempt. Some people think you can aim for the brainstem and ensure ctb this way, but the brainstem is so small that it is very easy to miss- just three inches long and less than an inch wide. Many people who survive gun suicide attempts have serious damage done to their vision, including those who shoot inside the mouth or from the side- more details are in an article posted online by the National LIbrary of Medicine called "Survivors of Self-inflicted Gunshot Wounds to the Head".

 

[deathbydragon]

I did a lot of research on gun suicide attempts, because it was my first choice method for a while, and there are significant survival rates from every angle- from the side of the head, inside the mouth, etc.- there is no angle that is even close to a 100% for a ctb rate. Also you can see videos on youtube from people who survived gunshot suicide attempts and they are people who shot from various angles, they were not just all from under the chin. One shows a person with a big chunk of his brain missing in the temple area- this was eventually corrected through surgery so that his head had a more normal shape when they put some material in this area to replace the bone. One shows a young cheerleader who was paralyzed by her gun sujcide attempt. Some people think you can aim for the brainstem and ensure ctb this way, but the brainstem is so small that it is very easy to miss- just three inches long and less than an inch wide. Many people who survive gun suicide attempts have serious damage done to their vision, including those who shoot inside the mouth or from the side- more details are in an article posted online by the National LIbrary of Medicine called "Survivors of Self-inflicted Gunshot Wounds to the Head".

True. I should have specified shotgun, that's what I was thinking at the time, and it's the usual way it's failed, rather than only.

There is a guy that comes to mind who got shot in the side of the head on a facebook livestream, looked fatal but he ended up surviving somehow. Devyn Holmes.

 

[Someone123]

True. I should have specified shotgun, that's what I was thinking at the time, and it's the usual way it's failed, rather than only.

There is a guy that comes to mind who got shot in the side of the head on a facebook livestream, looked fatal but he ended up surviving somehow. Devyn Holmes.

Unfortunately, some people have survived shotgun suicide attempts and it is maybe the worst method to survive- I've seen one video on this site recently about this and it is maybe the worst thing I've ever seen, the suffering is way past anything I've ever seen before. I prefer a method like sn where if it fails you won't be damaged most likely, because all methods fail sometimes.

 

[rationaldeath]

I did a lot of research on gun suicide attempts, because it was my first choice method for a while, and there are significant survival rates from every angle- from the side of the head, inside the mouth, etc.- there is no angle that is even close to a 100% for a ctb rate. Also you can see videos on youtube from people who survived gunshot suicide attempts and they are people who shot from various angles, they were not just all from under the chin. One shows a person with a big chunk of his brain missing in the temple area- this was eventually corrected through surgery so that his head had a more normal shape when they put some material in this area to replace the bone. One shows a young cheerleader who was paralyzed by her gun sujcide attempt. Some people think you can aim for the brainstem and ensure ctb this way, but the brainstem is so small that it is very easy to miss- just three inches long and less than an inch wide. Many people who survive gun suicide attempts have serious damage done to their vision, including those who shoot inside the mouth or from the side- more details are in an article posted online by the National LIbrary of Medicine called "Survivors of Self-inflicted Gunshot Wounds to the Head".

You can find plenty of survivors from different angles when low caliber firearms were used, but I still have yet to see anyone survive something like a shotgun aimed in the mouth even remotely towards the right region. Every survivor I've seen has their face blown off which happens when you aim directly upwards under the chin or in the mouth. You don't have to actually hit the brainstem directly with a powerful enough firearm, you just need to aim somewhere in the general vicinity which is not difficult at all if you practice a couple times in the mirror. If you do this the entire center mass of your brain will explode out the back of your skull and what remains will be severed in half, I don't see how it would be possible to survive that (maybe as a brain dead vegetable if the brain stem somehow was still intact).

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I did a lot of research on gun suicide attempts, because it was my first choice method for a while, and there are significant survival rates from every angle- from the side of the head, inside the mouth, etc.- there is no angle that is even close to a 100% for a ctb rate. Also you can see videos on youtube from people who survived gunshot suicide attempts and they are people who shot from various angles, they were not just all from under the chin. One shows a person with a big chunk of his brain missing in the temple area- this was eventually corrected through surgery so that his head had a more normal shape when they put some material in this area to replace the bone. One shows a young cheerleader who was paralyzed by her gun sujcide attempt. Some people think you can aim for the brainstem and ensure ctb this way, but the brainstem is so small that it is very easy to miss- just three inches long and less than an inch wide. Many people who survive gun suicide attempts have serious damage done to their vision, including those who shoot inside the mouth or from the side- more details are in an article posted online by the National LIbrary of Medicine called "Survivors of Self-inflicted Gunshot Wounds to the Head".

A high speed round going at over 3000 feet per second would create such a shockwave that it would blow the head apart. So there is no need to hit the brainstem dead on with the bullet just hitting the head somewhat in the middle would or anywhere would blow it up imo. It's a bullet that travelling close to 1 kilometer per second. imo no land animal including a human not even large animals like giant 1000 pound Brown bears , giant moose, etc will survive when hit with the 30.06, winmag 300, Rum ultra mag, any of these . i've seen videos of very large animals such as these just fall immediately dead when hit from hundreds of yards away with a high speed round . At point blank range the speed is much greater.

 

[walt]

It has pretty much solidified my decision.

I think it's a very gory way to go, obviously, but it is absolutely assured to kill you, having it be done right.

 

[Ethereal Knight]

Unfortunately, some people have survived shotgun suicide attempts and it is maybe the worst method to survive

I really - really - wish we could spread more awareness on this forum about the dangers of failing some methods.

not only gunshot, but also even CO and hanging. there are people out there incredibly damaged by their CO (monoxide oxide) / hanging attempts. they many have lost the possibility of doing another attempt, their ability to talk, their ability to walk etc. some are being watched 24 hours a day. this is torture. they either did something wrong unintentionally or someone found them and saved them before the proccess is complete.

I'd highly encourage anyone to consider safety first. failing is always an option and you don't want to ruin your life even further. trust me, things can get worse.

Neambutal, Sodium Nitrite, Amitriptyline, Chloroquine, Opioids and even Insulin are OK methods and carry less risk. there are options.

tbh even decapitation using a rope and an accelerating car is less risky than certain things people try out there. come on people. let's all remember: shit happens.

I have a childhood friend who jumped from a building and survived. luckily or unluckily, he ended up dying 12 hours later on the hospital, but you can imagine how much pain he endured during those 12 hours.

and yes, choosing a method also depends on many other factors, like availability, peacefulness, speed, storage, preparation etc... you can read the Peaceful Pill Handbook and study it, do your own deep research on other sources too. study it and be rational.

never act on impulse. "thought without action is a daydream. action without thought is a nightmare."

and please spread awareness. I don't wanna see more people demented, in pain, disfigured or confined to a weelchair. not anymore. it breaks my heart.

 

[Someone123]

This is very good advice, but I do wonder about hanging, especially full suspension hanging, which is a backup plan for me- do you have reference to any articles about this method failing but resulting in damage? If you are able to find any and post any links this could he helpful. I have been under the impression that full suspension works virtually all the time unless you are pulled down in the middle of the ctb attempt.

 

[MyChoiceToLeave]

The McNutt video seemed to have convinced that this was the best way to ctb. Does anyone know what type of shotgun McNutt used?