Has anyone had a failed suicide attempt in the UK?

[can'tdoitanymore]

Especially in London where I assume there are more psych beds available than other parts of the country, but wherever you were can you please explain what happened. Were you released or sectioned and if you were sectioned was it because you admitted to still feeling suicidal afterwards? If you were sent home were you able to do what you wanted or strictly observed by a mental health team and had to meet or speak to them regularly? If so for how long? Would you have been able to leave the country if you wanted after a couple weeks?

I'm not doing well and ready to CTB but am anxious what might happen if I fail. My previous attempts were in the US and although they pretty much section everyone I was never kept more than a few days and then I could do whatever i wanted. From what I have read it seems they can keep you a lot longer here.

 

[Slow85]

Hi
The UK don't section everyone who attempts suicide. The system is strained and therefore they can't offer support to everyone. If you are taken to A and E you will be seen by the the Psych team if you stay and they will asses you (this won't be a mental health act assessment , they will decide if you need a mental health act assessment to detain you )
You may be released with or without support in the community. You may be offered a bed on a psych ward without detainment (unlikely ) you be detained under the mental health act .

 

[can'tdoitanymore]

So is it really just chance if they section you if you claim you made a mistake?
If you are released with support in the community how strict is that?

 

[Slow85]

I would go it's more chance that you get a mental health act assessment if you say it was chance when speak with the psych team ..... when you go to A and E you will wait a few hours to see the psych team after you have seen the doc. That psych will decide if you need to have a MHA but that psych won't be able to section you , only an AMHP can do that (approved mental health professional ) can do that .

You don't have to engage with support in the community. It's voluntary unless they are concerned again about you - which they can then request a MH assessment again but that's rare really. Due to the strains on the system

 

[gnomeboy17]

They'll assess you and if they think you're not going to do it again then they won't keep you. A lot of people say that when they were dying they realised that actually suicide wasn't the answer, so you could claim this, or it could turn out to be true for you. Best wishes x

 

[can'tdoitanymore]

I would go it's more chance that you get a mental health act assessment if you say it was chance when speak with the psych team ..... when you go to A and E you will wait a few hours to see the psych team after you have seen the doc. That psych will decide if you need to have a MHA but that psych won't be able to section you , only an AMHP can do that (approved mental health professional ) can do that .

You don't have to engage with support in the community. It's voluntary unless they are concerned again about you - which they can then request a MH assessment again but that's rare really. Due to the strains on the system

I see thank you. If anyone else also has an personal experiences they can share I would appreciate it.

They'll assess you and if they think you're not going to do it again then they won't keep you. A lot of people say that when they were dying they realised that actually suicide wasn't the answer, so you could claim this, or it could turn out to be true for you. Best wishes x

I think they would have a hard time believing it because my family would tell them about all my past attempts. I am preparing for the worst, hopefully I don't fail. I should have done it last night when everyone was out but was too scared. Waking up today realizing that was a huge mistake has only made realize I need to do it now but there is the risk of being heard now.

I would go it's more chance that you get a mental health act assessment if you say it was chance when speak with the psych team ..... when you go to A and E you will wait a few hours to see the psych team after you have seen the doc. That psych will decide if you need to have a MHA but that psych won't be able to section you , only an AMHP can do that (approved mental health professional ) can do that .

You don't have to engage with support in the community. It's voluntary unless they are concerned again about you - which they can then request a MH assessment again but that's rare really. Due to the strains on the system

Do you mean more chance you will get a mental health assesment if you claim it was a mistake and you changed your mind? Wouldn't that be less likely?

 

[Slow85]

No as you said sorry I think that came out jumbled lol you have more chance of getting a MHA assessment if you claim you have continued plans to end your life etc - but what I was trying to say was the psych who sees you initially can't section you . They can order a MHA but that can take hours / days in fact. X

Edited to add - I've been sectioned a couple of times and I've waited under a 5.2 whilst they have gotten AMPhs to asses me. The police can hold you under a 136 aswell if you attempt and are unsuccessful and they pick you up. So there are ways they can hold you to prevent you leaving if they are concerned

 

[seafarer]

I had assessment in normal hospital my the crisis team and blessed on my answers they asked me to voluntarily commit myself. Tho she added in my case because of my answers and way I elwasnacting if I didn't go voluntarily that they would section me.i wanted to be so that's why,I could easily have gave different answers like regret saying it was stupid and I won't do it again and I would probably have been sent home with the odd visit for a few weeks. But I said all the opposite to make sure I got commited because I needed a break from my life

 

[can'tdoitanymore]

I had assessment in normal hospital my the crisis team and blessed on my answers they asked me to voluntarily commit myself. Tho she added in my case because of my answers and way I elwasnacting if I didn't go voluntarily that they would section me.i wanted to be so that's why,I could easily have gave different answers like regret saying it was stupid and I won't do it again and I would probably have been sent home with the odd visit for a few weeks. But I said all the opposite to make sure I got commited because I needed a break from my life

How long were you there for?

 

[seafarer]

Only 4 days,I didn't really wanna leave cuz there was a pretty girl in there I was getting on with. But they said I seemed ok. So I got the girls number Nd we met up when she got out a few weeks later. But for example that girl as I found out was batshit crazy and she had been in there 4 weeks by the time I arrived she got out just after me due to talking to me hole I was in there and me helping keep her calm.the doctors have a microphone in the main room you all have to sit in so they had heard our conversations and that was part of reason I was released white quickly because they based slot on things I was saying to her when she started to go a bit crazy in there. I don't know if that's the same for all facilities but keep in mind there may be microphones piped into their office so they can here you talking to others.

But it as the most stress free few days of my life 3 nice meals a day like pizza one day burger and fries the next etc. I mean when I say I could hav happily stayed in there for a few mor days atleast

 

[Viola]

After a stomach pump after an OD the Dr just said 'don't do it again' and that was all that anyone said about it.

 

[Deleted-User-0]

Especially in London where I assume there are more psych beds available than other parts of the country, but wherever you were can you please explain what happened. Were you released or sectioned and if you were sectioned was it because you admitted to still feeling suicidal afterwards? If you were sent home were you able to do what you wanted or strictly observed by a mental health team and had to meet or speak to them regularly? If so for how long? Would you have been able to leave the country if you wanted after a couple weeks?

I'm not doing well and ready to CTB but am anxious what might happen if I fail. My previous attempts were in the US and although they pretty much section everyone I was never kept more than a few days and then I could do whatever i wanted. From what I have read it seems they can keep you a lot longer here.

My mate had an unsuccessful attempt in Bromley he called emergency and nothing special after that was only called few times by his GP and probably visited 1-2 times by police. They are far too busy to care too much about an unsuccessful suicide.
As far as I know they would never force to section in the UK.

 

[Marktheghost]

I was asked if I had any immediate plans to try again and I said no. I wasn't asked anything else that I can think is likely to have influenced their decision to discharge me. I don't understand why I was discharged. I'd have stayed in hospital given the choice.

And I'm getting more or less no support since then.

 

[Mm80]

I think the main thing they are looking for is to see if you are of sound mind. As In Not going through psychosis etc. As long as you can speak coherently and seem in control of your mind you should be fine.

 

[Cheshirecatx]

I had a few attempts. Went to hospital, forced to talk to psych so they can cover themselves but other than that I got sent home. Even with sections I've been released. It very rarely results in a section 2 or 3. Comply when you're in hospital etc and they're much more likely to release you. Personal experience anyways.

 

[Sad_Autistic_boy_101]

Only experience I have is adult mental health threatening to get the police to kick down my door. They didn't go ahead with their threat lol.

 

[Cheshirecatx]

Only experience I have is adult mental health threatening to get the police to kick down my door. They didn't go ahead with their threat lol.

Never do lol. They don't have the resources or the time, and they know a section will just worsen it.