Discussion Hanging

[jitendrabagaria786@]

If I tie a rope on a tree branch which is almost 15 feet above the ground and put the noose in my head and jump from it, rope length is appx 6 feet then what could go wrong? Can I snap my neck and not die and will be hanging in their in pain or will I pass out and just die?

 

[Someone123]

Jumping will creeate a lot of force, a huge amount of force, which could break the rope or the branch- when people use a tree they don't typically jump. Hanging fro9m a tree is a reliable method if done right, you may want to search other posts on hanging for tips. Jumping or falling is generally for teh long drop method when done by an executioner and the floor drops out and everything is carefully calculated. There is a hanging megathread with many tips on hanging- it is a reliable method but also scary because depending on some variables it may take a while to pass out.

 

[jitendrabagaria786@]

The branch will hold its a big one rope is strong too I fear I might not die and could do physical damage to me

 

[Someone123]

The branch will hold its a big one rope is strong too I fear I might not die and could do physical damage to me

If the know slides normally you will ctb- jumping introduces a lot of variables, including possibly messing up the knot. A noose is designed for long drop/which is similar to jumping, and a slip know is recommended for short drop, when you do something like kick a stool away or lower yourself from a branch. With all methods there is a risk that someone may rescue you in the middle of the attempt and then have damage, if you are in a remote location where no one sees you this is unlikely. Full suspension is a very reliable method when done correctly, maybe the most reliable method there is, but it does not include jumping as part of the method- it is done by kicking away a stool or in this case lowering yourself from a branch. Jumping could still work, it's just a little scary because thi8s isn't following the processs for full suspension and it might introduce risks- it would still most likely work, though. Full suspension is the most popular method worldwide because it is simple and reliable, compared to other methods, but it still takes some planning, and there is likely to be a short period of time that is terrifying until you pass out. Is it worth it to go through this to end your pain? This is a personal decision.

 

[Life_and_Death]

The branch will hold its a big one rope is strong too I fear I might not die and could do physical damage to me

That's why most prefer sn. (that I can think of) any other method has a high chance of damage because you're cutting oxygen off from the brain directly, whereas with sn it works through your body giving time for recovery and less chance for a failed attempt gone wrong (brain damage ect)

 

[jitendrabagaria786@]

I don't know what is right or wrong at this moment, I tried to kick the chair but just can't do it thought jumping would be easy but it seems more difficult

 

[Someone123]

That's why most prefer sn. (that I can think of) any other method has a high chance of damage because you're cutting oxygen off from the brain directly, whereas with sn it works through your body giving time for recovery and less chance for a failed attempt gone wrong (brain damage ect)

Based on a recent thread about sn there is actually a risk of brain damage from sn and I do thi8nk almost no chance of brain damage from full suspension if it is done right where you won't be pulled down in the middle of the process. Maybe people who live in apartments don't have access to a good location for full suspension so they turn to sn. But if you have a remote location you can get to and not be interrupted this method, in my opinion, probably has less chance of brain damage than sn.

 

[Life_and_Death]

Based on a recent thread about sn there is actually a risk of brain damage from sn and I do thi8nk almost no chance of brain damage from full suspension if it is done right where you won't be pulled down in the middle of the process. Maybe people who live in apartments don't have access to a good location for full suspension so they turn to sn. But if you have a remote location you can get to and not be interrupted this method, in my opinion, probably has less chance of brain damage than sn.

If done right, which has a lot more fail points then sn.
Also I question the info. It's normal for people to come back posting about sn while I've seen stories of how people were left in wheelchairs/bedbound from other methods.

 

[Someone123]

If done right, which has a lot more fail points then sn.
Also I question the info. It's normal for people to come back posting about sn while I've seen stories of how people were left in wheelchairs/bedbound from other methods.

It's just a matter of what data people have seen, there is no way to be sure which method is better. A recent thread about brain damage and sn was an eye opener for me. I have personally not heard of a case of full suspension taht lead to damage other than ctb unless they were rescued in the middle of the attempt. Personally if I had access to a remote tree location that would work I would use it over sn, but it's a judgement call.

 

[Life_and_Death]

A recent thread about brain damage and sn was an eye opener for me.

Picking out the real info vs pro-life scare tactic bs though lol. Much like a legit scientific study there's typically a couple and there's quite a few studies on sn, vs 1 post literally anyone could have made claiming to be anyone they want to.

unless they were rescued in the middle of the attempt.

The rope took too long to break causing roughly the same outcome? I was including being rescued though, anything can happen.

 

[tranquilityseeker]

@jitendrabagaria786@ why don't you drink some poison before jumping with the noose? It will ensure that you die even if the attempt is botched.

 

[jitendrabagaria786@]

Unfortunately I don't have access to any poison

 

[lionetta12]

I don't know what is right or wrong at this moment, I tried to kick the chair but just can't do it thought jumping would be easy but it seems more difficult

Jumping to do long drop can, as others have mentioned in the thread, give too much force to the point it breaks the branch or/and the rope. Please try to use a chair or a ladder if you end up trying this method.

 

[tranquilityseeker]

@jitendrabagaria786@ please check the message I sent

 

[tym]

Um im sorry break the rope?? Thats incorrect. If the rope is thick enough, and I am sure everyone is smart enough to pick decent rope. Chances are on a long drop, your head will come right off your body. Like I said in another thread. I am going the decapatation route. I have the cable with both ends in a loop, Tie the rope through the loop, find a place WAY out the the middle of no place, then you can use your car, or a very long drop. Then again, I know how to tie a hangsman knot.

 

[Life_and_Death]

Um im sorry break the rope?? Thats incorrect. If the rope is thick enough, and I am sure everyone is smart enough to pick decent rope. Chances are on a long drop, your head will come right off your body. Like I said in another thread. I am going the decapatation route. I have the cable with both ends in a loop, Tie the rope through the loop, find a place WAY out the the middle of no place, then you can use your car, or a very long drop. Then again, I know how to tie a hangsman knot.

I've read posts that basically said "fuck the rope broke", so not incorrect. Like you even said IF the rope is thick enough and I'm sorry but some people can't boil water (literally all you have to do is add more water so it doesnt completely evaporate) and you expect people to be able to pick out a rope?

 

[Someone123]

Picking out the real info vs pro-life scare tactic bs though lol. Much like a legit scientific study there's typically a couple and there's quite a few studies on sn, vs 1 post literally anyone could have made claiming to be anyone they want to.

The rope took too long to break causing roughly the same outcome? I was including being rescued though, anything can happen.

That thread for sn seems very, very credible to me- it makes sense- it's a judgement call what to believe, each person will make their own judgements. Still I do think that full suspension is possibly the most reliable mehod, more reliable and more scary than sn, scary since until you pass out it will be terrifying. It's a judgement call, but there have been a fair number of posts of sn failing on the first attempt. My own edcucated guess based on available data is that for a well done attempt sn is maybe 80% reliable- this is largley baed on a long thread of nearly 100 attempts- and something like 99-100% for full suspension if not rescued in the middle of the attempt.

 

[Life_and_Death]

here have been a fair number of posts of sn failing on the first attempt.

the problem is you really have to break down the numbers which are probably going to be a lot smaller once you cut out the optional/SI fails and the impulsive/not enough mixture or being rescued fails (obviously unless the list is made up entirely of honestly failed). if taking enough and left alone, even without any of the extra meds, you will die.

honestly as someone that basically hung themselves when they were about 7 and didnt feel anything at all (no pain no marks nothing) i dont disagree with hanging, its actually the method im going to use, just that its easier to go wrong and harder to save yourself from (partial not included duh, considering the problem there is its too easy to save yourself). something with SN goes wrong the body will either heal itself (given the dose was small enough), you can call 911 and theyll have an antidote (assuming you call on time), or you wait it out and die it just might take a little longer but you will still die (or in the first thing i said, heal yourself). something goes wrong with hanging it hurts A LOT and theres 0 way to stop it and almost impossible to practice for. you can find the sweet spot but controlling the rope when youre hanging there if it ends up in the wrong spot or something isnt an option. you get 1 shot and thats it. something goes wrong with sn just take another drink.

 

[Someone123]

honestly as someone that basically hung themselves when they were about 7 and didnt feel anything at all (no pain no marks nothing) i dont disagree with hanging, its actually the method im going to use, just that its easier to go wrong and harder to save yourself from (partial not included duh, considering the problem there is its too easy to save yourself). something with SN goes wrong the body will either heal itself (given the dose was small enough), you can call 911 and theyll have an antidote (assuming you call on time), or you wait it out and die it just might take a little longer but you will still die (or in the first thing i said, heal yourself). something goes wrong with hanging it hurts A LOT and theres 0 way to stop it and almost impossible to practice for. you can find the sweet spot but controlling the rope when youre hanging there if it ends up in the wrong spot or something isnt an option. you get 1 shot and thats it. something goes wrong with sn just take another drink.

As far as taking another drink with sn, almost no one actauly does that, trying to get yourself to drink something when you have vmoite in your mouth and down your throat is almost impossible, and if you do it will likely come right back up.

As far as your attempt when you were sevn, it sounds like it must have been partial or at least having a stool nearby or somethng, with true full suspension you don't have a chance to rescue yourself. It is treu that you can't knoqw where the rope wi9ll go and if it doesn't get the carotids you may need to wait until the windpipe closes off completely, which can be a long, terrifying time. Full suspension is reliable but terrifying, sn has advantages, it will likely be my method, but it is not as reliable as full suspension, though it is pretty reliable.

 

[Life_and_Death]

As far as your attempt when you were sevn, it sounds like it must have been partial or at least having a stool nearby or somethng,

it was full, my toes werent touching anything and someone had to save me

 

[Someone123]

it was full, my toes werent touching anything and someone had to save me

So how did you end up getting saved? Were you just gofing around and you had someone there ready, or did they hear some noise?

 

[Life_and_Death]

So how did you end up getting saved? Were you just gofing around and you had someone there ready, or did they hear some noise?

a neighbor heard me screaming for help and came over shortly after i blacked out (at least i can only assume how short it was)