Guys, what about the cold?

[Neonfeel]

Hear me out,
I've read and watched many real life stories about people that almost died due to be in contact with very cold temperatures and none of them reported any pain.
The sequence seems to be -» you are cold and shivering for some time (if this sounds like too much there is always alcool to help numb the disconfort and accelerate the process)-» eventually you stop shivering and become mentally confused -» you will want to lay somewhere and go to sleep.

I'll post some (again) real life accounts for reference:

- this girl was walking home while it was snowing outside, probably still drunk, in just a tank top, and never made it home. Nowhere in the cctv cams do you see her acting like she is in pain or panicking or anything. She wasnt ringing people's door bells trying to be helped either.

Joe Rogan's interview with Yeonmi Park - I dont remember where it happened in the interview but I remember she was crossing somewhere very cold by foot, with a group of people (they were fleeing north korea) and she said she remembers feeling very drowsy like she could just go to sleep right then and there - her actually words were something like "I remember thinking that if I wanted to die this would not be a bad way to go"

https://www.bbc.com/bbcthree/article/239d10c0-8481-43c5-88f3-ebecadacfd7d - another person, this time a man (wearing just jeans, hoodie and sneakers) passing out while trying to get home, after a few drinks at the pub. He said he just remembers walking home and then waking up somewhere else. No pain, no panic.

Granted, this needs intelligent planning because it has a very long window for ressuscitation/ rescue (this last guy laid in the street ALL NIGHT and paramedics still managed to bring him back). But with good planning, it seems to me like a good way to go.

What do you guys think?

 

[Salkak]

I used to think of this as a method too. If you combine it with alcohol, it's pretty good way to go. To make it even more rapid. I thought of going in a river. Body will lose heat faster. You'll either drown or get hypothermia or both

 

[Neonfeel]

I used to think of this as a method too. If you combine it with alcohol, it's pretty good way to go. To make it even more rapid. I thought of going in a river. Body will lose heat faster. You'll either drown or get hypothermia or both

Yes, cold water would make it much faster but that takes a lot more courage, like I dont want to drown if you know what I mean.... I just want that peaceful "let me go to sleep right here"

 

[Salkak]

Yes, cold water would make it much faster but that takes a lot more courage, like I dont want to drown if you know what I mean.... I just want that peaceful "let me go to sleep right here"

I understand. It sounds so peaceful. Wish I lived in a colder part of the country
What temprature will be good enough?

 

[failed life]

I've thought of this too. It sounds like a peaceful and uncomplicated way to go. Here in the southern hemisphere we're in winter temperatures and it's between 0 and 6 degrees Celsius (42.8F) overnight in large bushland areas quite close to me. That would be plenty cold enough for hypothermia to set in if you didn't have enough clothing and were exhausted. The process can be accelerated by clothing and footwear being a bit wet. As well as being peaceful the big advantage would be that everyone would think you just got lost.

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

There was a kind of elderly couple who CTB'd that way together last spring, it must have been just cold enough. I think they must have left a note or something making it clear that it was suicide, not just an accident falling asleep in the cold after gazing at the stars.

 

[Neonfeel]

I've thought of this too. It sounds like a peaceful and uncomplicated way to go. Here in the southern hemisphere we're in winter temperatures and it's between 0 and 6 degrees Celsius (42.8F) overnight in large bushland areas quite close to me. That would be plenty cold enough for hypothermia to set in if you didn't have enough clothing and were exhausted. The process can be accelerated by clothing and footwear being a bit wet. As well as being peaceful the big advantage would be that everyone would think you just got lost.

Exactly. I thought about that too. Like you were just watching the view, maybe listening to music and got carried away, lost track of how cold it actually was.

I understand. It sounds so peaceful. Wish I lived in a colder part of the country
What temprature will be good enough?

I think anything close to zero is cold enough.

There was a kind of elderly couple who CTB'd that way together last spring, it must have been just cold enough. I think they must have left a note or something making it clear that it was suicide, not just an accident falling asleep in the cold after gazing at the stars.

I find that beautiful to be honest. They never had to go through losing the other, never lost their independence etc. Just went peacefully on their terms.

 

[Forever Sleep]

There's a peculiar side effect of hypothermia where the body/ brain starts to believe it is actually too hot at the end. Victims have been found with clothing removed. Look at the tragic cases of Elisa Lam and Kenneka Jenkins. (Be warned- both are pretty disturbing but- both removed or rearranged clothing.)

That side to it puts me off for one. Not that I can be embarassed when I'm dead but, I'd rather not be naked in public- dead or alive.

I suppose it's like all methods really too. I wonder how long the period before dying will feel like. How bad the discomfort would be and whether I would be strong enough to keep putting myself through it.

It makes sense to numb the senses with alcohol or something before but, that would surely affect decision making even more. Not just the capacity to work out how to rescue ourselves but, maybe less resistance to SI and the impulsive need to save ourselves. I don't know.

Personally, I haven't considered it too much because I'd also rather not die in a public place.

A neighbour of mine used to sail. He fell in a lake in Winter once and said you do very quickly start to feel confused. That side to it does seem like a natural numbing affect- which appeals.

 

[soributton]

Seems very peaceful. I wish it got cold where I'm from. This all sounds much better than dying from the heat, hahah.

 

[Neonfeel]

There's a peculiar side effect of hypothermia where the body/ brain starts to believe it is actually too hot at the end. Victims have been found with clothing removed. Look at the tragic cases of Elisa Lam and Kenneka Jenkins. (Be warned- both are pretty disturbing but- both removed or rearranged clothing.)

That side to it puts me off for one. Not that I can be embarassed when I'm dead but, I'd rather not be naked in public- dead or alive.

I suppose it's like all methods really too. I wonder how long the period before dying will feel like. How bad the discomfort would be and whether I would be strong enough to keep putting myself through it.

It makes sense to numb the senses with alcohol or something before but, that would surely affect decision making even more. Not just the capacity to work out how to rescue ourselves but, maybe less resistance to SI and the impulsive need to save ourselves. I don't know.

Personally, I haven't considered it too much because I'd also rather not die in a public place.

A neighbour of mine used to sail. He fell in a lake in Winter once and said you do very quickly start to feel confused. That side to it does seem like a natural numbing affect- which appeals.

Yes, they call it paradoxical undressing. Obviously this will is very person dependant but I dont mind if I'm found naked tbh. I couldnt care less.

You raise a fair point regarding alchool, like will it make the will to live stronger? but I think that the alchool coupled with the loss of mental clarity from the cold might make it if not impossible than at least very hard to take proper care of yourself even if you are trying to live. I imagine it being something like "Ok im leaving, I changed my mind" but then you cant really think properly to get out of there. I think that is why it needs great planning, very remote place, not having a car to get out etc.

Seems very peaceful. I wish it got cold where I'm from. This all sounds much better than dying from the heat, hahah.

Yea lol, and I think only old people die from the heat no?