• Hey Guest,

    As you know, censorship around the world has been ramping up at an alarming pace. The UK and OFCOM has singled out this community and have been focusing its censorship efforts here. It takes a good amount of resources to maintain the infrastructure for our community and to resist this censorship. We would appreciate any and all donations.

    Bitcoin (BTC): 39deg9i6Zp1GdrwyKkqZU6rAbsEspvLBJt
    ETH: 0xd799aF8E2e5cEd14cdb344e6D6A9f18011B79BE9
    Monero (XMR): 49tuJbzxwVPUhhDjzz6H222Kh8baKe6rDEsXgE617DVSDD8UKNaXvKNU8dEVRTAFH9Av8gKkn4jDzVGF25snJgNfUfKKNC8
L

lifeisbutadream

Warlock
Oct 4, 2018
776
I don't know much about guns or bullets, but as you mentioned, the risk of becoming paralyzed is why I wouldn't use a gun as my method, personally. I know you're scared to shoot at your head, but I think the guide on this forum has instructions of how to aim to guarantee(?) it kills you, but they recommend a shotgun instead




Because a shotgun is FAR more effective , and usually far easier to obtain in many places than a hand gun as well.

.32 caliber is smaller than a 9mm or .38 but it is the caliber that police in both the US and Europe used in their revolvers for many years. A 12 guage (the most common shotgun) 3" magnum shotgun shell contains fifteen (15) pellets each the size of a .32! A 10 guage shotgun is even more powerful but rare.

9mm, that they are talking about here, usually comes in a semi-automatic gun as opposed to a revolver. Revolvers are much simpler for an inexperienced person, or a person with weak hands, to use, and more reliable too. One big advantage that revolvers have over shotguns is that if shot "single action", that is with the hammer cocked (like you see them do in cowboy movies) is that the trigger then becomes very light, requiring a very light pull, "hair trigger", making it, I think, much easier to overcome SI (only revolvers with an exposed hammer can be shot single action).
 
Last edited:
pthnrdnojvsc

pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
2,947
Because a shotgun is FAR more effective , and usually far easier to obtain in many places than a hand gun as well.

.32 caliber is smaller than a 9mm or .38 but it is the caliber that police in both the US and Europe used in their revolvers for many years. A 12 guage (the most common shotgun) 3" magnum shotgun shell contains fifteen (15) pellets each the size of a .32! A 10 guage shotgun is even more powerful but rare.

9mm, that they are talking about here, usually comes in a semi-automatic gun as opposed to a revolver. Revolvers are much simpler for an inexperienced person, or a person with weak hands, to use, and more reliable too. One big advantage that revolvers have over shotguns is that if shot "single action", that is with the hammer cocked (like you see them do in cowboy movies) is that the trigger then becomes very light, requiring a very light pull, "hair trigger", making it, I think, much easier to overcome SI (only revolvers with an exposed hammer can be shot single action).

00 and 000 buckshot are both enough . but 000 buckshot each pellet is .36 caliber and each 70 plus grains. it has 10 pellets. if i had a choice 000 is more massive than 00 buckshot .36 caliber vs .32 caliber . what do you think ?



Express Magnum Buckshot 12 Gauge 000 Buck Shot Size


Part # 20408

  • Shot Size: 000 Buck
  • Shotshell Length: 3in / 76mm
  • Muzzle Velocity: 1225
and this is the same 000 but copper plated shot which might be better cause copper is harder than lead
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: lifeisbutadream
L

lifeisbutadream

Warlock
Oct 4, 2018
776
00 and 000 buckshot are both enough . but 000 buckshot each pellet is .36 caliber and each 70 plus grains. it has 10 pellets. if i had a choice 000 is more massive than 00 buckshot .36 caliber vs .32 caliber . what do you think ?



Express Magnum Buckshot 12 Gauge 000 Buck Shot Size


Part # 20408

  • Shot Size: 000 Buck
  • Shotshell Length: 3in / 76mm
  • Muzzle Velocity: 1225
and this is the same 000 but copper plated shot which might be better cause copper is harder than lead


Both are more than enough to do the job.

The sig on the bottom of your post - too true.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: pthnrdnojvsc
I

iwantitalltoend

Experienced
Feb 18, 2023
272
This should be posted on the firearm mega thread, no?

I saw in person shot in the heart with a handgun bullet, similar to your 9 mm except it was an expanding bullet and it did expand tremendously, once. Death was instantaneous.

It should be successful. Most failures are due to poor aiming and last split second involuntary flinching, and because of inadequate fire power. The mouth method is good because the gun barrel is stabilized with the lips and teeth. Perhaps there's a way to tape the gun barrel on to your chest to alleviate the possibility of the last instant flinch. If you must do this do it in a private place and take blood thinners or aspirin and maybe fish oil too so that if you do not die instantly you will bleed out. Use the most powerful 9mm you can obtain, 9mm +P or +P+ if you can get it and if your firearm can handle it. I think you should die instantly if you hit the heart.

I am sorry that you - we - are here and thinking like this. God bless you.
So do you think the method can work and kill me with the type of gun and bullet I mentioned? I could hold the gun at point blank to my chest where the heart is located, if the gun is so near me then the bullet should hit my heart, even if a Full Metal Jacket bullet isn't as powerful as a hollow point it's still powerful and can kill. I think that even if I miss the heart and maybe hit one of my lungs instead it should still kill me, the lungs are also major organs, but death would be even slower probably than dying from a gunshot to the heart. I'm just afraid of missing the heart and surviving, although I think the method should work if I put the gun that close to my chest
 
L

lifeisbutadream

Warlock
Oct 4, 2018
776
So do you think the method can work and kill me with the type of gun and bullet I mentioned? I could hold the gun at point blank to my chest where the heart is located, if the gun is so near me then the bullet should hit my heart, even if a Full Metal Jacket bullet isn't as powerful as a hollow point it's still powerful and can kill. I think that even if I miss the heart and maybe hit one of my lungs instead it should still kill me, the lungs are also major organs, but death would be even slower probably than dying from a gunshot to the heart. I'm just afraid of missing the heart and surviving, although I think the method should work if I put the gun that close to my chest


No reason a fmj isn't as powerful as a hollow point. A hollow point is supposed to expand that's all. Often they don't even expand. A full metal jacket will likely have better penetration. The difficulty I think is figuring out exactly where the heart is and not missing. If you can do that that it should do the trick. Also there's the danger of last instant involuntary flinching.
 
I

iwantitalltoend

Experienced
Feb 18, 2023
272
No reason a fmj isn't as powerful as a hollow point. A hollow point is supposed to expand that's all. Often they don't even expand. A full metal jacket will likely have better penetration. The difficulty I think is figuring out exactly where the heart is and not missing. If you can do that that it should do the trick. Also there's the danger of last instant involuntary flinching.
There are photos on google of where the heart is located and if you put your hand on your left side of the chest you can feel heartbeats, that's where the heart is. I can point the gun at point blank there on my chest. Also would involuntary flinching really be a problem? I would put the gun right next to my chest, it would touch my chest, that's what point blank is. Once I pull the trigger the bullet would already come out of the gun and hit me in one second, or maybe even less than a second considering how fast bullets are
 
Last edited:
C

CatLvr

Paragon
Aug 1, 2024
978
.357 caliber has enough power to penetrate 1/4" steel (such as high strength helmets). It's a lot more powerful than other common calibers like 22, 22LR, .38, 38SP, 9mm, .40, .45, etc.

The recoil on this caliber is quite strong. Strong enough that I always use two hands rather than one hand at a range if I want any accuracy.
What?!?! .357SIG hasn't got any more "pop" to it than 9mm or .45. Now .357Mag from a revolver might, but that has more to do with the shape of the grip IMHO.

Given what I have seen anything 9mm and above has more than enough ability to kill a person if it is aimed properly. In fact, that is my ctb of choice, when the time comes. (9mm or .357SIG)

Anyone who wants to use a handgun should NOT attempt ctb-ing until they have practiced enough to be confident in their trigger pull and ability to hold the firearm properly (steady and pointed to the right area). All the mistakes I have seen in videos have been due to aiming in the wrong place, or flinching at the last minute.
 
theater

theater

Member
Dec 10, 2024
64
What?!?! .357SIG hasn't got any more "pop" to it than 9mm or .45. Now .357Mag from a revolver might, but that has more to do with the shape of the grip IMHO.

Given what I have seen anything 9mm and above has more than enough ability to kill a person if it is aimed properly. In fact, that is my ctb of choice, when the time comes. (9mm or .357SIG)

Anyone who wants to use a handgun should NOT attempt ctb-ing until they have practiced enough to be confident in their trigger pull and ability to hold the firearm properly (steady and pointed to the right area). All the mistakes I have seen in videos have been due to aiming in the wrong place, or flinching at the last minute.
I did mean .357 magnum rounds. I have a revolver and shoot this and 38 special out of it. My 9mm and 38 special feel like a light feather compared to .357 magnum recoil.

You can google penetration tests for these rounds and see. The .357 magnum is much faster (approx 1700 fps) and more "powerful" than the others I listed in terms of penetration. I'm excluding considering total energy or other rounds like rifle rounds or rarer pistol rounds.

My .357 magnum revolver is a 4 inch barrel not a 6+ inch. If you have a really big revolver, then perhaps that's a reason why you aren't noticing much difference in recoil compared to 9mm.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: CatLvr
C

CatLvr

Paragon
Aug 1, 2024
978
I did mean .357 magnum rounds. I have a revolver and shoot this and 38 special out of it. My 9mm and 38 special feel like a light feather compared to .357 magnum recoil.

You can google penetration tests for these rounds and see. The .357 magnum is much faster (approx 1700 fps) and more "powerful" than the others I listed in terms of penetration. I'm excluding considering total energy or other rounds like rifle rounds or rarer pistol rounds.

My .357 magnum revolver is a 4 inch barrel not a 6+ inch. If you have a really big revolver, then perhaps that's a reason why you aren't noticing much difference in recoil compared to 9mm.

You are correct in that with revolvers the difference in caliber is noticeable. While some of it is due to the lighter overall weight of a revolver vs. any semi-automatic (except the sub-compacts obviously) I have always felt the difference in the grip of a revolver vs. a semi- had something to do with it also. Even my Glock32 (the compact version of .357SIG) is quite manageable with a little practice. With the Glock31 (the full-sized version) if feels just like shooting 9mm to me.

I don't believe I ever stated anything about fps, or power, other than to say that anything under 9mm probably shouldn't be used to ctb. I feel like you need to be VERY confident in your ability to hit your target without actually having eyes on the target and to NOT to flinch or jerk the trigger. For that you need to have more than just a little time behind that gun, getting yourself familiar with the recoil, trigger break and reset, how much pressure it takes to pull the trigger smoothly and cleanly, etc.

I don't have a really big revolver. The only full-sized guns I own are my competition gun (a Glock 34), my 1911 (a Colt Gold Cup I inherited from my dad) and the rifles and shotguns we have for this, that or the other. I'm sure my husband has a safe FULL of full-sized guns I have only seen a time or two. He's the collector. I'm more of a practical shooter -- I have a few and I am good with ALL of them.

Oh SHOOT!! I just remembered!! I DO have a big revolver -- a Casull 454. That thing is a honker! Lol
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: lifeisbutadream
L

lifeisbutadream

Warlock
Oct 4, 2018
776
I did mean .357 magnum rounds. I have a revolver and shoot this and 38 special out of it. My 9mm and 38 special feel like a light feather compared to .357 magnum recoil.

You can google penetration tests for these rounds and see. The .357 magnum is much faster (approx 1700 fps) and more "powerful" than the others I listed in terms of penetration. I'm excluding considering total energy or other rounds like rifle rounds or rarer pistol rounds.

My .357 magnum revolver is a 4 inch barrel not a 6+ inch. If you have a really big revolver, then perhaps that's a reason why you aren't noticing much difference in recoil compared to 9mm.



That's what Bud Dwyer used so effectively, and that's my recommended gun if you have to use a handgun...AND if you can shoot your .357 revolver single action (hammer cocked back) it will just be a hairtrigger pull which should make overcoming SI much easier.
You are correct in that with revolvers the difference in caliber is noticeable. While some of it is due to the lighter overall weight of a revolver vs. any semi-automatic (except the sub-compacts obviously) I have always felt the difference in the grip of a revolver vs. a semi- had something to do with it also. Even my Glock32 (the compact version of .357SIG) is quite manageable with a little practice. With the Glock31 (the full-sized version) if feels just like shooting 9mm to me.

I don't believe I ever stated anything about fps, or power, other than to say that anything under 9mm probably shouldn't be used to ctb. I feel like you need to be VERY confident in your ability to hit your target without actually having eyes on the target and to NOT to flinch or jerk the trigger. For that you need to have more than just a little time behind that gun, getting yourself familiar with the recoil, trigger break and reset, how much pressure it takes to pull the trigger smoothly and cleanly, etc.

I don't have a really big revolver. The only full-sized guns I own are my competition gun (a Glock 34), my 1911 (a Colt Gold Cup I inherited from my dad) and the rifles and shotguns we have for this, that or the other. I'm sure my husband has a safe FULL of full-sized guns I have only seen a time or two. He's the collector. I'm more of a practical shooter -- I have a few and I am good with ALL of them.

Oh SHOOT!! I just remembered!! I DO have a big revolver -- a Casull 454. That thing is a honker! Lol


" feel like you need to be VERY confident in your ability to hit your target without actually having eyes on the target and to NOT to flinch or jerk the trigger. "

The thing about flinching is it would be a last split second involuntary reaction, the body's instinctive attempt at self preservation, so how to be sure that you - or I - don't do it? That's one important thing i like about the mouth method. The gun barrel is braced in your mouth, held there with your lips and teeth. People determined to use the heart method, I was thinking that maybe they could duck tape the gun barrel to their chest in the appropriate spot.




Sizes of cartridges


Pistol Bullet Comparison lineup 1024x649
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: CatLvr
I

iwantitalltoend

Experienced
Feb 18, 2023
272
You are correct in that with revolvers the difference in caliber is noticeable. While some of it is due to the lighter overall weight of a revolver vs. any semi-automatic (except the sub-compacts obviously) I have always felt the difference in the grip of a revolver vs. a semi- had something to do with it also. Even my Glock32 (the compact version of .357SIG) is quite manageable with a little practice. With the Glock31 (the full-sized version) if feels just like shooting 9mm to me.

I don't believe I ever stated anything about fps, or power, other than to say that anything under 9mm probably shouldn't be used to ctb. I feel like you need to be VERY confident in your ability to hit your target without actually having eyes on the target and to NOT to flinch or jerk the trigger. For that you need to have more than just a little time behind that gun, getting yourself familiar with the recoil, trigger break and reset, how much pressure it takes to pull the trigger smoothly and cleanly, etc.

I don't have a really big revolver. The only full-sized guns I own are my competition gun (a Glock 34), my 1911 (a Colt Gold Cup I inherited from my dad) and the rifles and shotguns we have for this, that or the other. I'm sure my husband has a safe FULL of full-sized guns I have only seen a time or two. He's the collector. I'm more of a practical shooter -- I have a few and I am good with ALL of them.

Oh SHOOT!! I just remembered!! I DO have a big revolver -- a Casull 454. That thing is a honker! Lol
Would flinching or jerking the trigger really be a problem if you shoot yourself in the heart with a 9 mm gun? After you pull the trigger the bullet travels so fast in maybe even less than one second that the recoil or flinching shouldn't really be a problem right? If you put the gun at point blank to your chest to where your heart is located then the speed of the bullet should be enough to hit the target
 
  • Like
Reactions: CatLvr
C

CatLvr

Paragon
Aug 1, 2024
978
Would flinching or jerking the trigger really be a problem if you shoot yourself in the heart with a 9 mm gun? After you pull the trigger the bullet travels so fast in maybe even less than one second that the recoil or flinching shouldn't really be a problem right? If you put the gun at point blank to your chest to where your heart is located then the speed of the bullet should be enough to hit the target
I'm only guessing but the speed of the bullet wouldn't have anything to do with WHERE the bullet is aimed, would it?? With the rib cage protecting the heart and lungs, and the heart being a relatively small target it seems to me that a lesser caliber gun would give someone who is unfamiliar with the trigger pull of any particular gun more opportunity for error, not less.

It also is kinda awkward to pull the trigger backwards (turned around where the muzzle us facing towards you, not away from you). Using your thumb to pull the trigger (the only way I can figure out how to get it done) also tends to pull the muzzle downward. Seems like if you weren't slow and deliberate about your movement you would be more prone to take out a lung, or even your diaphragm before you'd hit your heart. I dunno. Makes me wish I'd gone into forensic science/medicine so I could see the reports.
 
I

iwantitalltoend

Experienced
Feb 18, 2023
272
I'm only guessing but the speed of the bullet wouldn't have anything to do with WHERE the bullet is aimed, would it?? With the rib cage protecting the heart and lungs, and the heart being a relatively small target it seems to me that a lesser caliber gun would give someone who is unfamiliar with the trigger pull of any particular gun more opportunity for error, not less.

It also is kinda awkward to pull the trigger backwards (turned around where the muzzle us facing towards you, not away from you). Using your thumb to pull the trigger (the only way I can figure out how to get it done) also tends to pull the muzzle downward. Seems like if you weren't slow and deliberate about your movement you would be more prone to take out a lung, or even your diaphragm before you'd hit your heart. I dunno. Makes me wish I'd gone into forensic science/medicine so I could see the reports.
The heart is located behind and slightly on the left side of the sternum, I would say even more than just slightly on the left side, there's enough space where the heart isn't protected by the sternum and the ribs have spaces between them. The heart isn't a very small organ either so you definitely can hit the target, at least that's what I think. Even if the bullet hits the rib first I think a Full Metal Jacket bullet from a 9 mm Glock 19 gun should be strong and fast enough to penetrate the rib and hit the heart, if it hits the sternum it should penetrate the sternum as well although I think the sternum is a stronger bone than a rib, but because the heart is located on the left you don't point the gun where the sternum is. If you point the gun at point blank range then it should be enough for the bullet to hit the target. I heard that even if you don't hit the heart but hit a lung instead you can still die from that although it's a slower death, you can die from hitting the majority or any major organ. Like I said though, the heart isn't a small organ, it's between the lungs so the bullet should hit it. You hold the gun backwards like you said, would it really make pulling the trigger more difficult? You just have to hold the gun firmly with your hands, put it next to your chest where the heart is located and pull the trigger, that's all. Obviously you shouldn't do the method in a hurry, you should do it more slowly so that you don't miss the heart. This isn't a new method, I read about this on google and people killed themselves by shooting themselves in the heart before, there are also videos of people shooting themselves in the heart with handguns on a gore website called watchpeopledie and you can see how they position the gun to their chest. From what I've read in most cases gunshots to the heart are lethal, if you don't get found and saved by someone then you die. Also about the power of a gun and bullet, I want to mention that there are videos on youtube where people test different types of guns and bullets on ballistic human torsos, there you can see how powerful a 9 mm gun is and how easy a bullet can penetrate the chest and even come outside of it in just one second. People test guns using other objects as well such as concrete bricks, a bullet can penetrate that so pointing a gun at point blank range to your chest should be enough for the bullet to penetrate the chest and hit the heart. Also hollow points aren't necessary for the method to work, most types of guns and bullets can kill so a Full Metal Jacket bullet should be powerful enough for this to work. I would lie if I said I'm not afraid of failure though, I know there are risks of failure like with many other methods, many methods have their own chances of success and risks of failure, it depends on what method you want and if you want to take that risk, but I prefer this method over others and if what I've read is true that in most cases gunshots to the heart are lethal if you don't get saved, that most types of guns and bullets kill, that you can die if you get hit any major organ and that people killed themselves like this before, then I think there are more chances for the method to work. What do you think about this?
 
  • Like
Reactions: CatLvr
C

CatLvr

Paragon
Aug 1, 2024
978
The heart is located behind and slightly on the left side of the sternum, I would say even more than just slightly on the left side, there's enough space where the heart isn't protected by the sternum and the ribs have spaces between them. The heart isn't a very small organ either so you definitely can hit the target, at least that's what I think. Even if the bullet hits the rib first I think a Full Metal Jacket bullet from a 9 mm Glock 19 gun should be strong and fast enough to penetrate the rib and hit the heart, if it hits the sternum it should penetrate the sternum as well although I think the sternum is a stronger bone than a rib, but because the heart is located on the left you don't point the gun where the sternum is. If you point the gun at point blank range then it should be enough for the bullet to hit the target. I heard that even if you don't hit the heart but hit a lung instead you can still die from that although it's a slower death, you can die from hitting the majority or any major organ. Like I said though, the heart isn't a small organ, it's between the lungs so the bullet should hit it. You hold the gun backwards like you said, would it really make pulling the trigger more difficult? You just have to hold the gun firmly with your hands, put it next to your chest where the heart is located and pull the trigger, that's all. Obviously you shouldn't do the method in a hurry, you should do it more slowly so that you don't miss the heart. This isn't a new method, I read about this on google and people killed themselves by shooting themselves in the heart before, there are also videos of people shooting themselves in the heart with handguns on a gore website called watchpeopledie and you can see how they position the gun to their chest. From what I've read in most cases gunshots to the heart are lethal, if you don't get found and saved by someone then you die. Also about the power of a gun and bullet, I want to mention that there are videos on youtube where people test different types of guns and bullets on ballistic human torsos, there you can see how powerful a 9 mm gun is and how easy a bullet can penetrate the chest and even come outside of it in just one second. People test guns using other objects as well such as concrete bricks, a bullet can penetrate that so pointing a gun at point blank range to your chest should be enough for the bullet to penetrate the chest and hit the heart. Also hollow points aren't necessary for the method to work, most types of guns and bullets can kill so a Full Metal Jacket bullet should be powerful enough for this to work. I would lie if I said I'm not afraid of failure though, I know there are risks of failure like with many other methods, many methods have their own chances of success and risks of failure, it depends on what method you want and if you want to take that risk, but I prefer this method over others and if what I've read is true that in most cases gunshots to the heart are lethal if you don't get saved, that most types of guns and bullets kill, that you can die if you get hit any major organ and that people killed themselves like this before, then I think there are more chances for the method to work. What do you think about this?
Well, I don't think you are wrong about any of this. SI is brutal with this method, though (don't ask me how I know). I almost think I could shoot myself in the head before I could in the heart. However, if I were to ever use this method I would have to spend an inordinate amount of time desensitizing myself. I get sick to my stomach just thinking about turning a gun on myself. Lol It is SUCH a conundrum ...
 
theolivanderroach

theolivanderroach

but, what ends when the symbols shatter?
Sep 20, 2024
171
I was thinking about doing the same as a last resort... If i survived at least my face wouldnt be disfigured but now that im thinking about it, you could easily paralyze yourself with a shot to the heart. End up a quadriplegic...
 
wanttodie

wanttodie

Enlightened
Apr 19, 2018
1,817
if i had a gun that's what id do Gunshot to heart
 
L'absent

L'absent

À ma manière 🪦
Aug 18, 2024
1,322
I was thinking about doing the same as a last resort... If i survived at least my face wouldnt be disfigured but now that im thinking about it, you could easily paralyze yourself with a shot to the heart. End up a quadriplegic...
Guys, how can you talk about tetraplegia in relation to a gunshot to the heart? This is complete nonsense, and let me explain why. The heart is located in the chest, far from the cervical spinal cord, which is the part of the nervous system involved in tetraplegia. Tetraplegia occurs only in cases of injuries to the cervical spinal cord (between C1 and C8), which is located in the neck, far from the heart's location. A gunshot to the heart almost always causes fatal cardiovascular damage, such as myocardial lacerations, internal bleeding, or cardiac tamponade. Death is rapid or immediate due to hypovolemic shock or cardiac arrest. For tetraplegia to occur, the bullet would need to deviate abnormally and hit the cervical spine first, but this is highly unlikely given that the heart wound itself is fatal. The chances of a heart shot causing tetraplegia are less than 0.02%, and it's far more likely to result in instant death or damage to vital organs, with no involvement of the central nervous system. And I add: with a gunshot to the heart, if help doesn't arrive within 15 to 20 minutes, the person is dead in any case. This is because the heart is a vital organ, and a gunshot wound to the heart causes massive blood loss within minutes, quickly leading to hypovolemic shock. Even without external bleeding, blood can accumulate in the pericardium, causing cardiac tamponade, which prevents the heart from pumping blood, leading to death in a short time. Without immediate surgical intervention, no one survives more than a few minutes with such an injury. So please, let's avoid writing nonsense like tetraplegia from a gunshot to the heart. The reality is much more serious and simple: the person doesn't survive without immediate medical attention. And I challenge you to provide even one documented case of someone who remained tetraplegic due to a gunshot to the heart, because it doesn't exist.
 
  • Like
Reactions: JesiBel and Greyhawk
I

iwantitalltoend

Experienced
Feb 18, 2023
272
I was thinking about doing the same as a last resort... If i survived at least my face wouldnt be disfigured but now that im thinking about it, you could easily paralyze yourself with a shot to the heart. End up a quadriplegic...
Why do you think you can paralyze yourself by shooting yourself in the heart?
 
T

Temporary Breakway

Member
Jan 9, 2025
96
00 and 000 buckshot are both enough . but 000 buckshot each pellet is .36 caliber and each 70 plus grains. it has 10 pellets. if i had a choice 000 is more massive than 00 buckshot .36 caliber vs .32 caliber . what do you think ?



Express Magnum Buckshot 12 Gauge 000 Buck Shot Size


Part # 20408

  • Shot Size: 000 Buck
  • Shotshell Length: 3in / 76mm
  • Muzzle Velocity: 1225
and this is the same 000 but copper plated shot which might be better cause copper is harder than lead
Here is what I will use
Call me paranoid but I'm leaving zilch to chance
Here is what I will use
Call me paranoid but I'm leaving zilch to chance
Wait I already spoke to you nvm
if i had a gun that's what id do Gunshot to heart
Believe me you want to go for the head
 
Last edited:
I

iwantitalltoend

Experienced
Feb 18, 2023
272
Here is what I will use
Call me paranoid but I'm leaving zilch to chance

Wait I already spoke to you nvm

Believe me you want to go for the head
Why do you think the head is a better option? I know it can be a faster or even an instant death if you aim correctly at the head, but if you shoot yourself in the heart you can also die, although it's not an instant death. You can die if you get shot in any major organ. I'll edit the comment, I saw that you were talking about a shotgun, I was talking about a handgun in my post. I wouldn't have the courage to shoot myself with a shotgun, a handgun is better for me and I think it's powerful enough to kill me
 
Last edited:
I

iwantitalltoend

Experienced
Feb 18, 2023
272
Here is what I will use
Call me paranoid but I'm leaving zilch to chance

Wait I already spoke to you nvm

Believe me you want to go for the head
Why do you think you should go for the head? Can you explain more about this? Shooting yourself in the heart can also kill you, not just in the heart but in any major organ, you don't necessarily have to shoot yourself in the head. I'm curious why you said that. Also when you said you want to go for the head, where you talking about using a handgun or shotgun?
 
Last edited:
T

Temporary Breakway

Member
Jan 9, 2025
96
Why do you think you should go for the head? Can you explain more about this? Shooting yourself in the heart can also kill you, not just in the heart but in any major organ, you don't necessarily have to shoot yourself in the head. I'm curious why you said that. Also when you said you want to go for the head, where you talking about using a handgun or shotgun?
More guaranteed death
Want a pretty body I assume?
 
T

Temporary Breakway

Member
Jan 9, 2025
96
Why do you think you should go for the head? Can you explain more about this? Shooting yourself in the heart can also kill you, not just in the heart but in any major organ, you don't necessarily have to shoot yourself in the head. I'm curious why you said that. Also when you said you want to go for the head, where you talking about using a handgun or shotgun?
I was referring to blowing my head off by blasting off my head from my right temple
 
I

iwantitalltoend

Experienced
Feb 18, 2023
272
More guaranteed death
Want a pretty body I assume?
I have more courage shooting myself in the heart than in the head, also using a shotgun is too brutal for me, I prefer using a handgun, a handgun is brutal enough anyway and I think the method I talked about can work with the type of gun and bullet I mentioned, many handguns can kill and from what I understand hollow points aren't necessary if you want to die, Full Metal Jacket bullets are powerful enough to kill. Also as I said before you can die if you get shot in any major organ if no one saves you, but it's true that it will be a slower and more painful death if you don't shoot yourself in the head
 
T

Temporary Breakway

Member
Jan 9, 2025
96
Personally I'd suggest RIP ammo anyway but your logic sounds sound tbh
I have more courage shooting myself in the heart than in the head, also using a shotgun is too brutal for me, I prefer using a handgun, a handgun is brutal enough anyway and I think the method I talked about can work with the type of gun and bullet I mentioned, many handguns can kill and from what I understand hollow points aren't necessary if you want to die, Full Metal Jacket bullets are powerful enough to kill. Also as I said before you can die if you get shot in any major organ if no one saves you, but it's true that it will be a slower and more painful death if you don't shoot yourself in the head
I was referring to blowing my head off by blasting off my head from my right temple
Specifically behind the ear with a shotgun like the 1444 video guy
I was referring to blowing my head off by blasting off my head from my right temple
Specifically behind the ear with a shotgun like the 1444 video guy
 
I

iwantitalltoend

Experienced
Feb 18, 2023
272
Personally I'd suggest RIP ammo anyway but your logic sounds sound tbh


Specifically behind the ear with a shotgun like the 1444 video guy

Specifically behind the ear with a shotgun like the 1444 video guy
What do you think about the method I mentioned, gunshot to the heart with a 9 mm Glock 19 gun with a Full Metal Jacket bullet?