Discussion Gun placement

[Mistress Death]

I have my method, which is going to be a headshot, however I am unsure about the placement of the handgun. It is a 9mm with jhp. I am most comfortable placing the handgun to the side of my head, but I have read that shots to the temple aren't always lethal. I have read that behind the ear is more guaranteed. But, I can not visualize that. Does someone have a diagram of the outside lateral view of a head, then could you circle or point out the area in relation to the ear?

 

[GreenLantern]

Don't do the temple. People flinch and end up as vegetables with disfigured face. I think inside the mouth is better toward the brainstem.

 

[Mistress Death]

Don't do the temple. People flinch and end up as vegetables with disfigured face. I think inside the mouth is better toward the brainstem.

If I were to place the gun in my mouth and point downwards, at what angle should I point? Also, what kind of lateral grace do I have? How much to the left or right can the gun move before the attempt would fail? Also, if I were to do a temple shot, wouldn't I die from blood loss in a matter of minutes? I have a deadbolt on my apartment and I can insure that it would take at least a good handful of minutes to get in.

 

[GreenLantern]

If I were to place the gun in my mouth and point downwards, at what angle should I point? Also, what kind of lateral grace do I have? How much to the left or right can the gun move before the attempt would fail? Also, if I were to do a temple shot, wouldn't I die from blood loss in a matter of minutes? I have a deadbolt on my apartment and I can insure that it would take at least a good handful of minutes to get in.

You point slightly upward toward the brainstem through your mouth. That's what's supposed to turn you off like a light switch. I don't recommend the temple shot. I'm still researching myself for best ways to shoot.

 

[TiredHorse]

I have my method, which is going to be a headshot, however I am unsure about the placement of the handgun. It is a 9mm with jhp. I am most comfortable placing the handgun to the side of my head, but I have read that shots to the temple aren't always lethal. I have read that behind the ear is more guaranteed. But, I can not visualize that. Does someone have a diagram of the outside lateral view of a head, then could you circle or point out the area in relation to the ear?

DO NOT point the gun at your temple. A friend of mine did that: he blew out his frontal lobe and popped his eyeballs out, turning himself into a blind vegetable. Since he missed his brainstem, his body kept ticking along. And no, he didn't die of blood loss. Fortunately his family took him off life support and allowed him some peace.

Look at the Wiki page on the brainstem; there's a really good profile diagram there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainstem#Development

The way I find the right place is to find the soft notch behind my earlobe, between skull and jaw, and then follow the back of my ear slightly up to the bony area just above. Keep the gun level, and aimed straight side-to-side. Practice your aim in the mirror, using a water gun if the real thing isn't available.

Straight into the mouth would work too, as GreenLantern suggests. I would be inclined to err on the side of aiming too low than on aiming too high, my thought being that too high might miss the brainstem, but too low would likely sever the spinal cord --so long as you aim straight, not side to side.

 

[lost illusions]

Too bad you don't have a 45, 220gr golden saber rounds make a mess but they'll get the job done. That's what I'm thinking about atm

 

[TiredHorse]

Too bad you don't have a 45, 220gr golden saber rounds make a mess but they'll get the job done. That's what I'm thinking about atm

9mm with a jhp is more than enough. I'm a .45 fanatic myself --1911, no less-- but in this application the difference in kinetic energy is irrellevant. Hell, I'll be using my .32 with Federal Hydra-shoks: plenty of punch at that range, and less mess.

(EDIT: for those reading this, if you are not completely confident with firearms and your ability to aim at the brainstem, do not use a caliber as small as .32. For the inexperienced, a .38 in revolvers or a 9mm in semiautomatics would be the bare minimum, and those should always be used with hollowpoint ("JHP") ammunition.)

 

[Mistress Death]

DO NOT point the gun at your temple. A friend of mine did that: he blew out his frontal lobe and popped his eyeballs out, turning himself into a blind vegetable. Since he missed his brainstem, his body kept ticking along. And no, he didn't die of blood loss. Fortunately his family took him off life support and allowed him some peace.

Look at the Wiki page on the brainstem; there's a really good profile diagram there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainstem#Development

The way I find the right place is to find the soft notch behind my earlobe, between skull and jaw, and then follow the back of my ear slightly up to the bony area just above. Keep the gun level, and aimed straight side-to-side. Practice your aim in the mirror, using a water gun if the real thing isn't available.

Straight into the mouth would work too, as GreenLantern suggests. I would be inclined to err on the side of aiming too low than on aiming too high, my thought being that too high might miss the brainstem, but too low would likely sever the spinal cord --so long as you aim straight, not side to side.

When you were describing the gun placement, like the earlobe, between skull and jaw, do you have a diagram you could show me? Like a picture of the side of the face and indicate the placement? I'm a visual person and I really want to get this right, obviously.

 

[TiredHorse]

When you were describing the gun placement, like the earlobe, between skull and jaw, do you have a diagram you could show me? Like a picture of the side of the face and indicate the placement? I'm a visual person and I really want to get this right, obviously.

This is the best profile image I can find, via Google images. The brainstem is the beige, striated area at the very bottom of the brain; the pink circle I've marked shows a good aim point:



If you elect to shoot through your mouth, this image also gives you a good general sense of how you would need to aim on order to make that shot successful.

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[Mistress Death]

This is the best profile image I can find, via Google images. The brainstem is the beige, striated area at the very bottom of the brain; the pink circle I've marked shows a good aim point:

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If you elect to shoot through your mouth, this image also gives you a good general sense of how you would need to aim on order to make that shot successful.

@Threads, or other Mods (I am most communicative with Threads), please delete this if copyright issues might get the forum in trouble, and accept my apology.

This is super helpful! So, can I assume that a gun placement on the circle you indicated would have a high chance of success?

 

[TiredHorse]

This is super helpful! So, can I assume that a gun placement on the circle you indicated would have a high chance of success?

Destroy the brainstem and it's Game Over.

Practice in the mirror, though. A lot. If you can't see the gun, it's easy to not be aiming where you think you're aiming --angle too high, too far back, too far forward, and you'll botch it just as easily as with any other placement.

The "Six Ps" apply to suicide just as much as to any endeavor: Proper prior preparation prevents poor performance.

 

[Mistress Death]

Destroy the brainstem and it's Game Over.

Practice in the mirror, though. A lot. If you can't see the gun, it's easy to not be aiming where you think you're aiming --angle too high, too far back, too far forward, and you'll botch it just as easily as with any other placement.

The "Six Ps" apply to suicide just as much as to any endeavor: Proper prior preparation prevents poor performance.

If you were to draw a horizontal line from your ear hole towards the back of your head, you will feel that the bones sort of drop off and descend towards the middle of the back of your head. Do I place the gun on that notch before it drops off? The bone drops off about an inch away from the ear.

 

[Phade]

I'm interested in the answer as well, I was thinking it was further away from the ear. I'm might need the answer tonight even so, good stuff!

 

[TiredHorse]

If you were to draw a horizontal line from your ear hole towards the back of your head, you will feel that the bones sort of drop off and descend towards the middle of the back of your head. Do I place the gun on that notch before it drops off? The bone drops off about an inch away from the ear.

Everyone has a differently lumpy skull, so I can't say for certain.

Hell, you can put the muzzle in your ear and aim a little behind straight across and probably make the shot.

You now know where the brainstem is every bit as well as I do. Take that knowledge and practice your aim in the mirror. In the end, no one can hold the gun but you.

 

[Phade]

Hmm, question is do you go with the immediate soft squishy part or right at the bone when it trails off. Or right behind the ear.

 

[dumbfarang]

should we adjust a little bit due to recoil? or does it not matter if you're holding the gun firm and tight

 

[TiredHorse]

By the time you'd feel any recoil, you'll be dead.

 

[oxymoron]

Ear or mouth?

 

[lele1967]

Destroy the brainstem and it's Game Over.

Practice in the mirror, though. A lot. If you can't see the gun, it's easy to not be aiming where you think you're aiming --angle too high, too far back, too far forward, and you'll botch it just as easily as with any other placement.

The "Six Ps" apply to suicide just as much as to any endeavor: Proper prior preparation prevents poor performance.

sorry tired horse what does too back or too forward
i was planning on just placing the fun on my skin and shoot

sorry tired horse what does too back or too forward
i was planning on just placing the fun on my skin and shoot

i mean do i have to shoot like from far away, that makes it complicated for someone who has never used a gun

 

[lele1967]

Hi friends,

I have read the 29 pages about the method o firearms. But I have some doubts and the discussion hasnt been continiued since two years ago.
I would really appreciate the help.

-Some say semiautomatic 22mm is enough others say it needs to be 9mm or larger. what is it?

-Between methods of through the mouuth and thorugh the ear the goal is to hit the same spot right, the brainsteam.

-I was planning on shooting myseof just from touching the gun the skin (sorry for my english) . Am i supposed to do it from far away from my body?