Guilty Confession: I wish there were more of us

[The Disinherited]

I know it means more suffering and that that's why it's a bad thought for me to have but I wish there were more of us so we could effect real change in the world.

There's just so few of us Suicidal that we can't protest en masse for change in assisted suicide laws. There's so few of us that we can't change the current culture and stigma around Suicide so that we don't have to sneak out somewhere or wait to be left alone in order to kill ourselves. Politicians with power who claim to be defenders of minorities couldn't give less of a shit about hearing out our proposals regarding assisted suicide because after all we're just too small a minority....
If you were to preach in the centre of your town or city no-one would relate to you or give a shit about what you stand for because of how rare suicide really is.

Change can't come fast enough and the upside is all it takes is ONE person to change the world let alone suicide laws (and the current culture surrounding death and suicide)

 

[ForeverBlue]

I know it means more suffering and that that's why it's a bad thought for me to have but I wish there were more of us so we could effect real change in the world.

There's just so few of us Suicidal that we can't protest en masse for change in assisted suicide laws. There's so few of us that we can't change the current culture and stigma around Suicide so that we don't have to sneak out somewhere or wait to be left alone in order to kill ourselves. Politicians with power who claim to be defenders of minorities couldn't give less of a shit about hearing out our proposals regarding assisted suicide because after all we're just too small a minority....
If you were to preach in the centre of your town or city no-one would relate to you or give a shit about what you stand for because of how rare suicide really is.

Change can't come fast enough and the upside is all it takes is ONE person to change the world let alone suicide laws (and the current culture surrounding death and suicide)

Totally agree

 

[veryhappyhuman]

I feel like there are more than enough of people who wish to ctb for any number of reasons. But we just aren't organized enough to fight for rights bc organizing takes energy and effort, two things a depressed person does not have. Not speaking for everyone but if I had the kind of mental+physical energy needed to organize a protest (say) and believe in its outcome, I'd probably not be here.

 

[YC&^93qoVF*e]

But we just aren't organized enough to fight for rights bc organizing takes energy and effort, two things a depressed person does not have.

That and we keep killing ourselves off lol

 

[hopelessdreams]

i think a lot of people are depressed and suicidal in secret. even if we were to start a movement, a lot of people who can relate won't join for a number of reasons: glued to their work, too depressed to get out of bed, having family depend on you etcetera, and of course, like @YC&^93qoVF*e said: we keep killing ourselves lol

 

[Lost Magic]

I like your thinking but there are just too many pro-life and religious zealots out there.

 

[outatime_85]

I think there are more people who think and feel like those here than the world wants to acknowledge.

Most people, who have the means, will try to hide their mental issues.

Then there are those who seek help and hide the fact that they are getting help.

Then you have those who suffer in silence, fearful that society would consider them defective or a threat if they spoke out.

 

[FuneralCry]

I wish that we lived in a world where our right to die is respected. Suicide should not be so stigmatised as after all, there is so much suffering that exists. It is so cruel and horrifying how people have to resort to painful and risky methods, a peaceful exit from this life should be a human right.

Life is completely meaningless after all and we will all die eventually someday so it is wrong to try and force people to live. I think that it would make life more bearable for many people knowing that they have a guaranteed way out. Feeling trapped in this world can be such a dreadful, unbearable feeling.

 

[lofticries]

I just wish there were more ppl who had more compassion for us to not board up every peaceful ctb method to the point where we're all choosing violent deaths.

 

[ornitier199]

Whose we?
This isn't a clique.

 

[waitingforrest]

Perhaps. It still is depressing to know that the current system is broken but can't do anything to fix it. It really feels powerless to know that my ctb will just be another number on a chart, next to more people with different stories, but also same endings.

I don't know now some people remain sane in a world like this.

 

[jimmy7754]

I'm saying prayers for all of you tonight. Bless the lord.

 

[freedompass]

I listen to true crime and quite a few people who go on to commit violent crimes have been troubled individuals earlier in life and made suicide attempts. Ironically this is where the 'life at all costs' mindset leads. To a lot of senseless killing, rape etc. Gee thanks prolifers! Your short sighted knee jerk response to the suicidal resulted in the violent deaths of innocents. And as for the anti abortionists. Don't get me started lol

don't know now some people remain sane in a world like this

I suspect they may be chronically insensitive or outright delusional.

 

[The Disinherited]

I listen to true crime and quite a few people who go on to commit violent crimes have been troubled individuals earlier in life and made suicide attempts. Ironically this is where the 'life at all costs' mindset leads. To a lot of senseless killing, rape etc. Gee thanks prolifers! Your short sighted knee jerk response to the suicidal resulted in the violent deaths of innocents. And as for the anti abortionists. Don't get me started lol

I suspect they may be chronically insensitive or outright delusional.

If I could thumbs up this comment ten times over I would, so true about the violent.....first they have the misfortune of being freaks of nature or societal outcasts and then that same society (that rejects them) can only toss them a rope or gun or point them toward a high-rise building it's no wonder they snap when they fail at doing the most difficult thing a person involuntarily saddled with primitive self preserving instincts can do (suicide).. I really hope no-one on here (this site) is on the verge of snapping.

Whose we?
This isn't a clique.

Just the vast majority here who believe in assisted suicide as a more peaceful and secure way of putting a fast and painless end to our lives. Although we're individuals we're united by some core beliefs and it would be a shame if we could never occasionally band together for change, as far as I'm concerned so long as we're divided we're conquered.

 

[promapicide]

I listen to true crime and quite a few people who go on to commit violent crimes have been troubled individuals earlier in life and made suicide attempts. Ironically this is where the 'life at all costs' mindset leads. To a lot of senseless killing, rape etc. Gee thanks prolifers! Your short sighted knee jerk response to the suicidal resulted in the violent deaths of innocents. And as for the anti abortionists. Don't get me started lol

I suspect they may be chronically insensitive or outright delusional.

Yes yes.
Sometimes suicide itself is prevention. Our system isn't capable of treating everyone, and catches problems when it's too late. Who can you go to when you want to prevent yourself from hurting others? Talk about it to a therapist? Not unless you want your mental health to decline severely at a hospital. Stay alive? Both society and loneliness will make those feelings stronger.
These guys know themselves better than anyone, and are doing 100% more activism by trying to stop themselves than this world could ever 'attempt'.

 

[Marktheghost]

What can I/we do? I'd like to take action, but I haven't got a clue how to organize a protest march or anything. Anyone got any ideas?

 

[CursedSoul]

tbh i understand you, i even hate other people for being able to be happy where i just can't, it would be nice to make a movement, but it would be very hard, and everyone will see us as crazy weak minded people i think. They will just think we are sick and in need of help, when we already have received plenty, yet made our mind. i don't think we will be allowed to have a final rest ever. This world is very cruel, and not having the freedom to die is one of it's many cruelties.

 

[whereistheshnow]

I know it means more suffering and that that's why it's a bad thought for me to have but I wish there were more of us so we could effect real change in the world.

There's just so few of us Suicidal that we can't protest en masse for change in assisted suicide laws. There's so few of us that we can't change the current culture and stigma around Suicide so that we don't have to sneak out somewhere or wait to be left alone in order to kill ourselves. Politicians with power who claim to be defenders of minorities couldn't give less of a shit about hearing out our proposals regarding assisted suicide because after all we're just too small a minority....
If you were to preach in the centre of your town or city no-one would relate to you or give a shit about what you stand for because of how rare suicide really is.

Change can't come fast enough and the upside is all it takes is ONE person to change the world let alone suicide laws (and the current culture surrounding death and suicide)

I couldn't agree more...

 

[The Disinherited]

What can I/we do? I'd like to take action, but I haven't got a clue how to organize a protest march or anything. Anyone got any ideas?

I don't think the numbers (no. of people) are there for an in person march or protest, it would probably mean a dozen people with signs awkwardly standing around occasionally speaking with small news type people (none of the big news people would cover such an event) so thats why I don't think it's feasible but I guess you could try talking to your locally elected politicians (specifically those on the left because libertarians don't get elected and the political right doesn't support assisted suicide) by email or in person, try being as polite as possible and expect a negative response but aim to gauge where the debate is at in your country and if it hasn't even begun then you find a lawyer or someone who could draft a bill to then give to any of the politicians who were most receptive to legalising assisted suicide that could then be put forward for debate and thus set the proverbial ball in motion, but always just try!. In my country assisted suicide is on the way to being legalised so the debate is underway and I don't have to do anything until it's passed and we move on to having to secure the right to an assisted suicide for those suffering mental illness which is where I (and people like myself) will have to speak up and be active because it's our fight and no-ones gonna fight it for us....Also out of curiousity does anyone know of any country or even American state where a significant right wing party supports voluntary euthanasia and assisted suicide?

 

[Euthanza]

People don't have to be suicidal to stand for suicidal rights, they just need to understand hard facts.1
The suffering requirement is irrational second to worst system, healthy people should know they too have options to rational suicide just in case they choose to.

People in Swiss have their assisted suicide law because they have direct democracy system which allow citizens to make a referendum changing the law, they also have great demographic of educated society. This is what I know from a far. I live in third world shit hole with only few conservative political wings which make it impossible to see social change in near future, maybe after Saudi Arabia accept euthanasia then Indonesia will follow. But on personal level, suicide is still unassailable, at least for me.

 

[Lost Magic]

People don't have to be suicidal to stand for suicidal rights, they just need to understand hard facts.1
The suffering requirement is irrational second to worst system, healthy people should know they too have options to rational suicide just in case they choose to.

People in Swiss have their assisted suicide law because they have direct democracy system which allow citizens to make a referendum changing the law, they also have great demographic of educated society. This is what I know from a far. I live in third world shit hole with only few conservative political wings which make it impossible to see social change in near future, maybe after Saudi Arabia accept euthanasia then Indonesia will follow. But on personal level, suicide is still unassailable, at least for me.

I hear you. Even in the UK, the conservatives block dignity with dying bills for assisted suicide. I honestly can say there is no political ideology I hate more than conservatism.