Discussion Green light given with Pegasos Switzerland - feeling emotional

[Rubypie41]

So today I have been given the green light with Pegasos and can set my VAD date when I'm ready.

Feeling extremely emotional as I do not actually want to die in the slightest, but my conditions leave me with no option. My quality of life is none existent and I suffer ever single day. If there were some miracle cure for the conditions I have, then I would without question opt for the miracle cure. But after many years battling my conditions, multiple surgeries and countless appointments with ENT's, neurologist, counselling, medications etc. That miracle cure does not exist unfortunately.

For those suffering with incurable conditions and have the financial means to do so, then there is a real possibility of a dignified, peaceful and humane death in Switzerland.

The options over there are really between Pegasos and Dignitas. The main difference between the two is Pegasos use the intravenous method and with Dignitas you drink the medication. Intravenous is much faster, often resulting in loss of consciousness within around 30 seconds, followed by death via cardiac failure within 3-5 minutes. Consuming the medication orally can take anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes to lose consciousness, followed by death within 20-30 minutes, but can sometimes take longer.

The application with Pegasos is done online and you have to submit all your personal details, reasons for requesting a VAD, family background and medical records. The documents are then reviewed by the Pegasos team and a Swiss doctor. Finding out if you're eligible takes between 8-12 weeks, which is stressful waiting to know if you've been accepted. But they are busy and working hard to help, so patience is a must.

Happy to question for anyone wanting to take this route.

 

[Onelegman]

That is incredible!!!

 

[dolemitedrums]

Congratulations. Will be sad to see you go but happy for you if it's what you want.

 

[real human being]

I'm sorry you've found yourself in a situation where living is so unbearable. Thank you for sharing this information. It is indeed reassuring to know there is a country with such a progressive view on suicide relatively to the rest of the world.

 

[Hotsackage]

Yes, if one were to go this route assisted would be it. I'm glad you found some sort of relief. God bless

 

[Tesha]

I wish you didn't have to go through this process, but I'm glad you've secured yourself a peaceful exit.

 

[TAW122]

Very glad to hear about your approval! It must be a relief to know that you have the option to choose your own exit on (mostly) your own terms! If you don't mind, what kind of conditions or ailments are you suffering from (don't need to answer if it may jeopardize or if you don't feel comfortable in doing so)? Anyways, I wish you peace during this interim and in the future with whatever decision you arrive at.

 

[Jarni]

Thank you so much for sharing your story here. This is good and sad news at the same time...
But considering how difficult suicide is, it's surely a huge relief.

I'm in a bit of the same situation as you... Long Covid for 4 years, I've tried everything and I would give everything to live another fifteen years... But, nothing works and my physical state is disastrous.

Could you please tell me if Pegasos was very careful about the medical side and if the psychiatrist's papers were necessary? If you have some ideas....

Do you choose the final date for when you want or is it limited to a time frame? (a few months, a few years)
Thank you in advance for your answers

 

[Raven2]

Rubypie I have read your previous posts about your condition. Seems a though this is bittersweet for you, not wanting to die but being in unbearable suffering. I'm happy that you will be able to go in a dignified peaceful way.

Will family go with you to pegasos?

 

[lita-lassi]

congratulations on the peaceful exit and i hope the rest of your time is spent doing things you enjoy as much as possible

 

[KillingPain267]

Interesting. Can foreigners apply? I may apply if I can last through trying all the treatments of my conditions first, as I'm sure they don't accept anyone who tried just a few standard treatments for a year and is under 50 years old.

 

[Cute_&_Loving]

I'm glad you received this wonderful opportunity to have a peaceful exit…. But it pains me so much to know that you actually don't want to die and you have to choose it…… I'm really sorry. But I'm glad at least your….death will be peaceful…..

 

[opheliaoveragain]

Sending you so much love as you put the final details in motion. It's both happy and sad. I wish no one had to suffer so much to live this life. But what a blessing to hear it will be peaceful.

 

[YosemiteGrrl]

So today I have been given the green light with Pegasos and can set my VAD date when I'm ready.

Feeling extremely emotional as I do not actually want to die in the slightest, but my conditions leave me with no option. My quality of life is none existent and I suffer ever single day. If there were some miracle cure for the conditions I have, then I would without question opt for the miracle cure. But after many years battling my conditions, multiple surgeries and countless appointments with ENT's, neurologist, counselling, medications etc. That miracle cure does not exist unfortunately.

For those suffering with incurable conditions and have the financial means to do so, then there is a real possibility of a dignified, peaceful and humane death in Switzerland.

The options over there are really between Pegasos and Dignitas. The main difference between the two is Pegasos use the intravenous method and with Dignitas you drink the medication. Intravenous is much faster, often resulting in loss of consciousness within around 30 seconds, followed by death via cardiac failure within 3-5 minutes. Consuming the medication orally can take anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes to lose consciousness, followed by death within 20-30 minutes, but can sometimes take longer.

The application with Pegasos is done online and you have to submit all your personal details, reasons for requesting a VAD, family background and medical records. The documents are then reviewed by the Pegasos team and a Swiss doctor. Finding out if you're eligible takes between 8-12 weeks, which is stressful waiting to know if you've been accepted. But they are busy and working hard to help, so patience is a must.

Happy to question for anyone wanting to take this route.

WOW....what a blessing for the greenlight

 

[suffering_mo]

@Rubypie41 It feels a little out of place to say "congratulations" because I know you, like me, just want to live but you are tormented by your rare and torturous condition (s). I figured that you would be accepted and have been wondering. I know it's a relief for you but that's a hard decision to have make and incredibly difficult.

I wish this was an option that was available to me but due to family situation, it will never happen. Have you informed your family yet and if so, how are they taking it? Have you considered when you might go? How long do they give you to admit yourself after accepted?

 

[Neraul]

So today I have been given the green light with Pegasos and can set my VAD date when I'm ready.

Feeling extremely emotional as I do not actually want to die in the slightest, but my conditions leave me with no option. My quality of life is none existent and I suffer ever single day. If there were some miracle cure for the conditions I have, then I would without question opt for the miracle cure. But after many years battling my conditions, multiple surgeries and countless appointments with ENT's, neurologist, counselling, medications etc. That miracle cure does not exist unfortunately.

For those suffering with incurable conditions and have the financial means to do so, then there is a real possibility of a dignified, peaceful and humane death in Switzerland.

The options over there are really between Pegasos and Dignitas. The main difference between the two is Pegasos use the intravenous method and with Dignitas you drink the medication. Intravenous is much faster, often resulting in loss of consciousness within around 30 seconds, followed by death via cardiac failure within 3-5 minutes. Consuming the medication orally can take anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes to lose consciousness, followed by death within 20-30 minutes, but can sometimes take longer.

The application with Pegasos is done online and you have to submit all your personal details, reasons for requesting a VAD, family background and medical records. The documents are then reviewed by the Pegasos team and a Swiss doctor. Finding out if you're eligible takes between 8-12 weeks, which is stressful waiting to know if you've been accepted. But they are busy and working hard to help, so patience is a must.

Happy to question for anyone wanting to take this route.

Just wanted to say a congratulations of sorts. This must be such a weight off you in one sense, albeit not one you particularly welcome

 

[Rubypie41]

Very glad to hear about your approval! It must be a relief to know that you have the option to choose your own exit on (mostly) your own terms! If you don't mind, what kind of conditions or ailments are you suffering from (don't need to answer if it may jeopardize or if you don't feel comfortable in doing so)? Anyways, I wish you peace during this interim and in the future with whatever decision you arrive at.

I won't go into full details but you can read some of my older posts. In a nutshell they are unbearable and incurable relentless ear conditions that have absolutely destroyed my existence.

Rubypie I have read your previous posts about your condition. Seems a though this is bittersweet for you, not wanting to die but being in unbearable suffering. I'm happy that you will be able to go in a dignified peaceful way.

Will family go with you to pegasos?

Thank you. My brother has said he will travel with me

Interesting. Can foreigners apply? I may apply if I can last through trying all the treatments of my conditions first, as I'm sure they don't accept anyone who tried just a few standard treatments for a year and is under 50 years old.

Yes, the accept applications from all countries.

@Rubypie41 It feels a little out of place to say "congratulations" because I know you, like me, just want to live but you are tormented by your rare and torturous condition (s). I figured that you would be accepted and have been wondering. I know it's a relief for you but that's a hard decision to have make and incredibly difficult.

I wish this was an option that was available to me but due to family situation, it will never happen. Have you informed your family yet and if so, how are they taking it? Have you considered when you might go? How long do they give you to admit yourself after accepted?

Thank you.

My family are supportive of my decision. They were not at first but after witnessing what I go through they have now come to accept my reasonings.

I'm not sure when I will go yet. If it were purely me alone then I would go tomorrow, but I need to get my finances and affairs in order first. My partner has also just had major surgery so I want to be there for her first until she is recovered and back on her feet.

They haven't given me a time limit on when to set my VAD date, they have left that up to me to let them know.

 

[darkenmydoorstep]

So today I have been given the green light with Pegasos and can set my VAD date when I'm ready.

Feeling extremely emotional as I do not actually want to die in the slightest, but my conditions leave me with no option. My quality of life is none existent and I suffer ever single day. If there were some miracle cure for the conditions I have, then I would without question opt for the miracle cure. But after many years battling my conditions, multiple surgeries and countless appointments with ENT's, neurologist, counselling, medications etc. That miracle cure does not exist unfortunately.

For those suffering with incurable conditions and have the financial means to do so, then there is a real possibility of a dignified, peaceful and humane death in Switzerland.

The options over there are really between Pegasos and Dignitas. The main difference between the two is Pegasos use the intravenous method and with Dignitas you drink the medication. Intravenous is much faster, often resulting in loss of consciousness within around 30 seconds, followed by death via cardiac failure within 3-5 minutes. Consuming the medication orally can take anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes to lose consciousness, followed by death within 20-30 minutes, but can sometimes take longer.

The application with Pegasos is done online and you have to submit all your personal details, reasons for requesting a VAD, family background and medical records. The documents are then reviewed by the Pegasos team and a Swiss doctor. Finding out if you're eligible takes between 8-12 weeks, which is stressful waiting to know if you've been accepted. But they are busy and working hard to help, so patience is a must.

Happy to question for anyone wanting to take this route.

When I have contacted them, they aren't interested because my suffering is mental and therefore harder to prove/have them take notice of.

I wish I was suffering with something physical because then they would take it seriously. Sadly mental anguish doesn't seem to count. What I'd do for a terminal illness. Then I could just sell my house and pay to go to Switzerland and end it. Sorted.

Happy for you (but extremely jealous).

 

[Rubypie41]

When I have contacted them, they aren't interested because my suffering is mental and therefore harder to prove/have them take notice of.

I wish I was suffering with something physical because then they would take it seriously. Sadly mental anguish doesn't seem to count. What I'd do for a terminal illness. Then I could just sell my house and pay to go to Switzerland and end it. Sorted.

Happy for you (but extremely jealous).

So sorry for what you're going through. Mental illness is a tough one as in the mainstream is still not truly recognised as a physical illness, therefore the belief is that it can and will get better. That may be the case for some but unfortunately not for others. Yes I agree things like anxiety PTSD and generalised depression can often be overcome, but the more severe and persistent mental illnesses often cannot.

My partner's sister had schizophrenia and bipolar really badly. She spend most of her life trying various medications, counselling, psych wards and ultimately nothing helped. She died in a psych ward from a drug overdose. Unbelievably sad and for someone like her who had severe mental illness for decades, then they should also be eligible.

The problem lies with having capacity to make the decision and when someone is mentally unwell they are deemed in the eyes of the medical community as not having capacity.

 

[darkenmydoorstep]

Peru is my only pain free reliable bet I can think of, sadly.

 

[easypeasy]

Just wanted to say a congratulations of sorts. This must be such a weight off you in one sense, albeit not one you particularly welcome

Firstly, Congratulations. For health reasons, I am exploring the same option. I have only reached out to Dignitas so far. Do you know the price? Ad do you have any advice for getting it over the line?

 

[WearyWanderer]

Can you check DM if you have time before you go. I desperately need to ask a couple more questions