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Spectre

Spectre

Student
Nov 27, 2023
141
On March 17 2024 Canadians can enter a 90 day wait list for medically assisted suicide where the only reason is mental illness. Is anyone else thinking of waiting it out until Medicaid suicide is available? The date is just so far away and I want to go now but I also have such a strong SI and physical pain intolerance. I know a MAID injection isn't guaranteed but it sounds alot more assured than most methods and at the very least maybe my organs can be donated to someone who needs them afterwards?

 
Rhizomorph1

Rhizomorph1

May you find peace in living or dying
Oct 24, 2023
582
On March 17 2024 Canadians can enter a 90 day wait list for medically assisted suicide where the only reason is mental illness. Is anyone else thinking of waiting it out until Medicaid suicide is available? The date is just so far away and I want to go now but I also have such a strong SI and physical pain intolerance. I know a MAID injection isn't guaranteed but it sounds alot more assured than most methods and at the very least maybe my organs can be donated to someone who needs them afterwards?

This is absolutely great and I'm really happy this is happening in my country.

I wonder how many people will actually be eligible, however. I'm sure only the most severe mental illness cases will be considered and a physician will have to do a thorough assessment.

I wonder if it's required that people failed alternative treatments?

It still seems beyond fucked up to me that they are not offering psychedelic treatments while these laws are being passed. People deserve informed access to both.

There will be people who might recover from psychedelic treatments who will instead opt for suicide by MAID because psychedelics are inaccessible...

Anyways, good news overall but I'm curious how it will play out in the real world...
 
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Broken-Lost

🇨🇦
Nov 11, 2023
12
Knowing our government it will be pushed back for more study or whatever. I expect it will be a long time before this is actually allowed under the law.
 
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J&L383

Experienced
Jul 18, 2023
290
Yeah, we will see how many hoops you have to jump through. But it's a step in the right direction. If only they would allow foreigners, I would be driving across the border.
But at this point I will have to go all the way to Switzerland. 🤷‍♂️☹️
 
sanction

sanction

sanctioned
Mar 15, 2019
373
Probably will require many steps to be approved, with super strict requirements. Most likely won't be easy for most people to get in. But I guess still better than nothing, and a good start towards this direction of things

All of us literally just popped into this world with a simple snap of a finger. But to leave...... god damn its even more difficult than going to space........
 
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Davey36000

Experienced
Jun 12, 2023
225
To remove the causes of suffering is more important imo, but this is still ok.

Why do people have mental illness? There are causes. Canada is such a wealthy country and yet the social benefits, are they good? I heard they still have a lot of prisions, homelessness, etc...
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

She wished that she never existed...
Sep 24, 2020
34,573
If people are able to die in such a way then they are very fortunate, it's not even legal for anyone at all where I live which is so disgusting. The option of assisted suicide should be a human right, people shouldn't have to struggle to die to escape from an existence that was harmfully imposed onto them in the first place.
 
Spectre

Spectre

Student
Nov 27, 2023
141
Knowing our government it will be pushed back for more study or whatever. I expect it will be a long time before this is actually allowed under the law.
It's court ordered so it has to be done by a certain deadline
Yeah, we will see how many hoops you have to jump through. But it's a step in the right direction. If only they would allow foreigners, I would be driving across the border.
But at this point I will have to go all the way to Switzerland. 🤷‍♂️☹️
I wanted to do the dignitas pod in Switzerland but I don't understand the process and the waitlist is so long. Not to mention the process in in a completely different language.
 
glossble

glossble

homesick ⭒
Apr 14, 2023
51
I talked to my psychiatrist about this a year ago, he said that the eligibility would most likely be very strict. He said that with my depression and bpd I'm, most likely, won't be eligible. Also, I'm only 23 and I haven't tried every possible medication and therapy (as if 6 different antidepressants weren't enough)

Anyway I'll try again this year
 
leavingthesoultrap

leavingthesoultrap

(ᴗ_ ᴗ。)
Nov 25, 2023
1,067
Since it takes 3+ months to get a therapist even is you are on fast track list I can only imagine that the whole process would take years to complete and would be extremely exhausting
 
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Grumble

Lingering
Aug 25, 2018
163
I am Canadian and have been watching the progression of this legislation very closely for the past few years.

Our country is still very resistant to this idea (only something like 30% of people support it, based on a recent poll, if I recall correctly), but our legal community believes that if it was taken to our Supreme Court, the court would rule in favour of it. So, our government proceeded with this legislation instead of fighting what they think would be a losing court battle after which they'd be forced to do it anyway.

Although this is set to come into effect in March 2024, the government can still chicken out and postpone it again. It was originally supposed to go into effect in March 2023, but they put it off for another year "to study it". We all know how much governments like "studying" things instead of actually DOING things.

I think most likely they'll postpone it again, but maybe they'll surprise and actually follow through with it (I'm sure hoping so).
 
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CPY

Student
Oct 30, 2023
121
Good for Canadians!

Let's hope it won't just turn in a waste of paperwork with few odds of actually getting approved like it is in Belgium or Netherlands

Anyway considering that were I live is like the epicenter of catholicism I don't think we'll ever see a law like this not in my lifetime at least...for now the law only allows people who are kept alive by medical devices to get euthanasia...like not even quadriplegic can get it if they are not bound to live supported by machines
 
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Gonnerr

Enlightened
Mar 12, 2023
1,324
Not fast enough , not enough people can have it.

Gotta love my country, Canada where the government is your weed dealer. Why not go a little further and legalize suicide for everybody who wants it.

Lets go trudope, you can do it. Lolll
 
Spectre

Spectre

Student
Nov 27, 2023
141
Not fast enough , not enough people can have it.

Gotta love my country, Canada where the government is your weed dealer. Why not go a little further and legalize suicide for everybody who wants it.

Lets go trudope, you can do it. Lolll
It could be a nice parting gift before he finally leaves office!
 
Wyldfyre4948

Wyldfyre4948

Waiting for my bus
Jul 12, 2023
377
It's a step forward, but I feel like being on death row would have a shorter wait. Why can't it just be as easy as saying "hey, I've had enough of this and would like to die." Understandably there should be some precautions just to make sure you're of sound mind, but they'll still play gatekeeper based on age and severity of mental illness.

These people don't understand that some of us are just done being beaten down by mental illness. It's not a matter of "oh well you should try this medication and if that doesn't work then this one, or maybe even therapy. There is no reason why it should be easier to buy a gun and a buttload of bullets in the US than it should be to have medically assisted death.

It's always about needing better mental healthcare, but that always seems to get cut in favor of any other spending. So maybe just let someone end their life voluntarily, and not force them to jump in front of a truck and traumatize anyone else.

If you are denied MAID and tell them that you'll just go find some way to do it publicly and messy because they aren't allowing you the dignity of a peaceful death. This world doesn't have any real compassion for suicidal people.
 
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heatdeath

Member
Sep 20, 2018
23
Yeah, we will see how many hoops you have to jump through. But it's a step in the right direction. If only they would allow foreigners, I would be driving across the border.
But at this point I will have to go all the way to Switzerland. 🤷‍♂️☹️
I could spend a nice week or two in Switzerland and then CTB if it's that easy. 🫤
 
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Mx_Pathetic

Mx_Pathetic

Delete
May 8, 2023
101
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On March 17 2024 Canadians can enter a 90 day wait list for medically assisted suicide where the only reason is mental illness. Is anyone else thinking of waiting it out until Medicaid suicide is available? The date is just so far away and I want to go now but I also have such a strong SI and physical pain intolerance. I know a MAID injection isn't guaranteed but it sounds alot more assured than most methods and at the very least maybe my organs can be donated to someone who needs them afterwards?

Hope one day that Australia allows this
 
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LetMeBeSad

LetMeBeSad

Student
Sep 21, 2023
156
It's probably going to be very stringent and finding 2 medical professionals, 1 of which must be a specialist in whatever mental health issue is present, will probably be difficult. My catholic family doctor told me she would have me hospitalized after I asked her for a DNR and some more info on MAiD.

It looks great from the outside but, I will still have to practically beg pro-life twats to let me die. One of the requirements is an intense 90 day study of your mental health. Basically, I have to prove that I will not have any hope of recovery.

Also, I have to demonstrate that I tried the other options. The problem with that is that I don't have the fucking money to exercise all my options. I have visions of being told to try other methods that I just can't afford and thus will be locked out of my basic fucking rights because I don't have money. Fuck Canada.

Edit:

Link to Canadian government website detailing requirements.


This is CAMHs response to the government allowing maid for mental health with no foreseeable natural death.

 
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Spiritual survivor

Spiritual survivor

A born again but occasionally suicidal
Feb 13, 2022
503
Good for Canada. I guess you need to be a Canadian citizen, though? Wish they had this in the US.
I'm pretty sure this will be coming to the US also.
 
Raindancer

Raindancer

Experienced
Nov 4, 2023
278
If I am not mistaken, I just read something that Canada is rethinking this. They showed the statistics and felt too many people were accessing maid and now are very hesitant to take this next step. I apologize, I can't remember where I saw this but it was recent. I am not Canadian so I didn't save it.
 
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LetMeBeSad

LetMeBeSad

Student
Sep 21, 2023
156
If I am not mistaken, I just read something that Canada is rethinking this. They showed the statistics and felt too many people were accessing maid and now are very hesitant to take this next step. I apologize, I can't remember where I saw this but it was recent. I am not Canadian so I didn't save it.

I hope that's not the case. I'm not seeing anything on their website about it yet.