I know this is not a proven method so I guess I'm going to be the guinea pig. I have read a lot on the net and because of the chances of this not being tested for unless other information is available to investigators, there isnt much info on fatal doses on purpose. Ive never used it but it seems like a Hell of a way to go. Pass out in half an hour after feeling relaxed. I read about seizures and puking but most that wake up are unaware of these symptoms. Even choking on my own puke is an added benefit so I will be laying on my back before I go under. Used as an anesthetic by the government at early times leads me to believe if I take enough with no tolerance that it should have a very high chance of success. It seems to me from my research that unless there are things to lead coroners or medical examiners to test for it like being a raver, gay, friends having knowledge of ingestion, information on your phone about it, or leaving containers of it around it has a low chance of being tested for. Any first hand knowledge about any of this would be helpful. Any users of ghb have any suggestions on dosage? Anyone with knowledge of someone dying from ghb ingestion and have it go untested for? Its kind of what I'm hoping for. Any information is welcome. Thanks in advance.
WilliamKline
Flâneur
- Sep 16, 2019
- 135
I've had somewhat of a GHB overdose in the past. Came out of all oririfces I must say. Couldn't have held it in. Maybe an antiemetic would've helped but this was an accidental OD at a friends house - spent over two hours on the toilet. I'm sure it's possible to OD but a compound like F has a much lower LD50
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Qbert
Arcanist
- Jan 6, 2019
- 456
noctiva
the invisible girl
- Nov 6, 2019
- 393
Hei, I cannot really help you but if you check on pubmed with 'GHB overdose' you will get some interesting results, such as https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5610436/ or
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
It discusses pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics as well as dosages. It's a hell of a lot of reading though. If you're interested, maybe you can then educate us?
GHB Pharmacology and Toxicology: Acute Intoxication, Concentrations in Blood and Urine in Forensic Cases and Treatment of the Withdrawal Syndrome
The illicit recreational drug of abuse, γ-hydroxybutyrate (GHB) is a potent central nervous system depressant and is often encountered during forensic investigations of living and deceased persons. The sodium salt of GHB is registered as a therapeutic ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
So I will say that the reason I chose this method is in trying to disguise the fact that I intentionally ctb'd. Thats the reason no H or F.
Stan
Factoid Hunter
- Aug 29, 2019
- 2,589
Few countries test for GHB as it is a naturally occurring compound found in the body. They have to run an additional specific test for it by request in most coroner offices
This is one of the strong points for making it look like cardiac arrest. From all accounts I see of coroners finding ghb is because they have other details to test for it. Also, most of the information I read is from europe, Australia, and the netherlands where it seems to be more prominent. What I'm not finding is any information that this is not a good plan but I feel like it would cause other levels in the body to dramatically change that would point a finger to ghb. I feel as long as I take a sufficient dose, destroy this burner phone, and dont get raped, that this should work. I read the above links and it all seems to agree with my deductions.
Do you remember what your dosage was? After I'm gone I cant really control if I shit and piss myself anyway which I think happens anyway. I read that puking can be a symptom of cardiac arrest also. I'm hoping to be in a coma and not remember any of this anyway.
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Moony21
Experienced
- Nov 23, 2018
- 273
A few days ago I've watched a Doku about the Darkroom killer in germany (https://www.sat1.ch/tv/akte/video/2...hichte-date-raping-in-deutschland-ganze-folge)
this murder killed 4 Victems with ghb. He mixed the GBL in a alc. drink. In this doku speaks a forensic pathologist who knows a lot about GBL and which is the lethal dose.
2,5 ml
GBL is much stronger than GHB.
this murder killed 4 Victems with ghb. He mixed the GBL in a alc. drink. In this doku speaks a forensic pathologist who knows a lot about GBL and which is the lethal dose.
2,5 ml
GBL is much stronger than GHB.
Stan
Factoid Hunter
- Aug 29, 2019
- 2,589
Moony21
Experienced
- Nov 23, 2018
- 273
Sounds like a good plan. Make sure you have a strong drink and mix it.
Stan
Factoid Hunter
- Aug 29, 2019
- 2,589
If I went with it I would have a few drinks first, and then mix it with a scotch. Much more potent with alcohol.
Moony21
Experienced
- Nov 23, 2018
- 273
Stan
Factoid Hunter
- Aug 29, 2019
- 2,589
Going SN first, if for whatever reason that fails then get a bit drunk and have 10ml of GHB
Moony21
Experienced
- Nov 23, 2018
- 273
GBL is much stronger. Sorry I diden't explain right. 2.5ml ist the lethal dose of GBL.
my prefered option is N
my prefered option is N
You think 10ml would do the job?
@Moony21 I cant watch your video in the US but thanks for the info.
Stan
Factoid Hunter
- Aug 29, 2019
- 2,589
The guy said don't go over 1ml every 3 hours for a party dose. so I am pretty confident. I have 50 so may put more in. Perhaps double it. It doesn't change the taste of drinks so its easy to consume. But must admit, not put that much in a drink, only taken 1 dose so far as a test.
Stan
Factoid Hunter
- Aug 29, 2019
- 2,589
I had .5ml with a scotch, was out for under 12 hours. Very dangerous sleeping pill tbh
Guess I just have to find a place now. Living with a family member I dont want to have to find me.
GreyMonkey
Heartbroken
- Aug 20, 2019
- 277
Stan
Factoid Hunter
- Aug 29, 2019
- 2,589
If you find a dealer who sells weed, they will probably have this as it is so easy for them to make.
Or this. Mine will be here this week. Not sure of dosage, but my plan is not waiting too long after I have it. I still dont see any downside except needing time for it to finish the job while I'm asleep. Ive started looking into personal experiences with overdose through other forums instead of just web searches.
The sleep dose for GHB (Xyrem) is 4.50 grams. That WILL render you unconscious. But it is also a salt. Would that make vomiting more likely?
Would there be any other interactions? I think it cuts off dopamine and suppresses CNS.
It is almost impossible to die from GHB overdose alone. There is always something else involved.
Would there be any other interactions? I think it cuts off dopamine and suppresses CNS.
It is almost impossible to die from GHB overdose alone. There is always something else involved.
Saed
Nondescript
- Apr 21, 2020
- 580
Interesting. There's a serial killer over here,named Stephen Port aka The GHB Killer. Tons of info out there on him.
Stephen Port - Wikipedia
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Port#cite_note-Gayle061016-6
I'll stand by what I said. I'll bet those drinks were always alcoholic.
Saed
Nondescript
- Apr 21, 2020
- 580
My post wasn't intended to contradict yours at all.
I thought it'd be possible to decipher his "regimen"
Ah I see. There are too many drugs listed there to know what happened.
I was just wondering about the possibility of using GHB before SN to try to ensure loss of consciousness.
But it also blocks dopamine (in that dose). Could that interact with domperidone negatively?
And the extra salt, might it make vomiting more likely?
And how would it interact with SN?
Thats what I was thinking.
I was just wondering about the possibility of using GHB before SN to try to ensure loss of consciousness.
But it also blocks dopamine (in that dose). Could that interact with domperidone negatively?
And the extra salt, might it make vomiting more likely?
And how would it interact with SN?
Thats what I was thinking.
Saed
Nondescript
- Apr 21, 2020
- 580
Mmm...metoclopramide is adopamine receptor antagonist,too.
Interesting questions. I simply don't know enough about GHB to comment definitively.
