Gas mask method... UK

[HopefulButPrepared]

The only thing I haven't really looked at is a gas method, mostly because there is equipment involved and right now the idea of getting the right equipment together is something that I can't deal with mentally. I've read posts about different attachment and plugs and I just think 'FUCK OOOOOFFFFFFFF!!! WHY CAN'T THIS BE SIMPLE?????'

Is there anyone on here who would be patient and generous enough to PM me what I would need to buy from UK sources to make nitrogen/helium work - the mask, tube thing and source of sufficient gas?

I know I'm being lazy, but it's not just laziness, it's it's an ability to go down yet another fucking rabbit hole of complications and confusion, and if you've already sorted this out, could you possibly share?

I have interesting sources too I could share, for hard to get things.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[AnonymousS]

The only thing I haven't really looked at is a gas method, mostly because there is equipment involved and right now the idea of getting the right equipment together is something that I can't deal with mentally. I've read posts about different attachment and plugs and I just think 'FUCK OOOOOFFFFFFFF!!! WHY CAN'T THIS BE SIMPLE?????'

Is there anyone on here who would be patient and generous enough to PM me what I would need to buy from UK sources to make nitrogen/helium work - the mask, tube thing and source of sufficient gas?

I know I'm being lazy, but it's not just laziness, it's it's an ability to go down yet another fucking rabbit hole of complications and confusion, and if you've already sorted this out, could you possibly share?

I have interesting sources too I could share, for hard to get things.

Any help would be appreciated.

I could do with the same, i get brain fog and feel pretty clumsy at times. I wouldn't mind trying the gas method.

 

[#imdone]

Hi I'm in uk and have been thinking about this method for quite a while, I'm a technician so used to solving mech problems, please feel free to pm

 

[AnonymousS]

Hi I'm in uk and have been thinking about this method for quite a while, I'm a technician so used to solving mech problems, please feel free to pm

Thanks very much, may message you in the next few weeks.

 

[#imdone]

No worries I'm here more than I should be

 

[AnonymousS]

No worries I'm here more than I should be

Much appreciated, me too!

 

[#imdone]

Hahaha yeah I guess we have quite a bit in common

 

[AnonymousS]

Hahaha yeah I guess we have quite a bit in co

Hi I'm in uk and have been thinking about this method for quite a while, I'm a technician so used to solving mech problems, please feel free to pm

Hello again, i just wanted to ask whether you have bought any gear related to this yourself. I hope you don't mind me asking, also how do we PM someone ? Thanks.

 

[AnonymousS]

I'm a mechanic so most of the stuff is readily available to me, not sure how to pm either, if you figure it out please drop a message

Ok thanks, will do.

 

[AnonymousS]

I'm a mechanic so most of the stuff is readily available to me, not sure how to pm either, if you figure it out please drop a message

Hi i just thought i'd ask as i found it yesterday, have you heard of the book Five Last Acts ? There is a link to it on here, with a download. It's very in depth, but also gives very easy to follow advice.

 

[HopefulButPrepared]

Hi i just thought i'd ask as i found it yesterday, have you heard of the book Five Last Acts ? There is a link to it on here, with a download. It's very in depth, but also gives very easy to follow advice.

just downloaded this, thanks

 

[AnonymousS]

just downloaded this, thanks

You're welcome, i think it may come in very useful if needed.

 

[HopefulButPrepared]

You're welcome, i think it may come in very useful if needed.

do you think humans are too afraid of death? I have a suspiscion that we are. Death is the most normal thing in the world. It's the most common thing that happens to all life, and all humans. It's more common than childbirth, because some people have c-sections! It's more common than eating because some people have to spend their lives getting nutrition through some IV drip or some shit. It's more common than shitting, because some people have to use colostomy bags. But we're so afraid of it. I think if we all got to experience dying now, over and over and over, like practise runs, but they feel just like the real thing, after a few times we'd all say, 'It's not too bad, your brain just takes care of it, it knows what's happening and releases all sorts of chemicals, like DMT, to just deal with it in a way that makes it quite bearable. Or it just makes you die of shock, which feels fine, you just shut down and feel nothing, and in the last moments you just dream about your whole life, like a resolution, then it's over'

 

[AnonymousS]

do you think humans are too afraid of death? I have a suspiscion that we are. Death is the most normal thing in the world. It's the most common thing that happens to all life, and all humans. It's more common than childbirth, because some people have c-sections! It's more common than eating because some people have to spend their lives getting nutrition through some IV drip or some shit. It's more common than shitting, because some people have to use colostomy bags. But we're so afraid of it. I think if we all got to experience dying now, over and over and over, like practise runs, but they feel just like the real thing, after a few times we'd all say, 'It's not too bad, your brain just takes care of it, it knows what's happening and releases all sorts of chemicals, like DMT, to just deal with it in a way that makes it quite bearable. Or it just makes you die of shock, which feels fine, you just shut down and feel nothing, and in the last moments you just dream about your whole life, like a resolution, then it's over'

It's an interesting question, and subject. I think most people become conditioned to the response of seeing death as the worst outcome. In some ways i think it's suprising considering some of the horrors of this world, and no matter whether you're rich or poor, have high social status or not-there is much suffering in this world. That's not to say that nothing good happens, in my particular circumstances i do not fear death, but i do fear suffering. My world has become so small that i just exist right now, and i try to take a rational view of my experience. Things for me will probably not get better, i have attempted on multiple occasions with some of those attempts coming close. I was admitted to ITU many years ago, and tried suspension hanging a few times. Once i blacked out, and i only came too because i had wet myself. I was very close indeed, i did not feel fear and in fact felt extremely calm. As you say it really is a natural process, part of life. No one can escape it, we would all like healthy, fulfilling, and probably fairly long lives. In the end for me, and for many others it comes down to the quality of life. I am only 48, but my quality of life is lower than many 70 or 80 year olds. So it's an important choice, and decision as if one succeeds there is no way back. I think in some cultures it is not so feared, there is far less stigma perhaps, though for some cultures it's as if death is to be avoided at all costs. They try to prolong life at the cost of that individuals quality of it at times, that's something i do not understand. If i felt at all as though i had hope that things would get better, realistically i certainly would not entertain any idea of making an exit. However i do firmly believe in the idea that each of us should be able to decide for ourselves without being ostracised by our decision.

 

[HopefulButPrepared]

It's an interesting question, and subject. I think most people become conditioned to the response of seeing death as the worst outcome. In some ways i think it's suprising considering some of the horrors of this world, and no matter whether you're rich or poor, have high social status or not-there is much suffering in this world. That's not to say that nothing good happens, in my particular circumstances i do not fear death, but i do fear suffering. My world has become so small that i just exist right now, and i try to take a rational view of my experience. Things for me will probably not get better, i have attempted on multiple occasions with some of those attempts coming close. I was admitted to ITU many years ago, and tried suspension hanging a few times. Once i blacked out, and i only came too because i had wet myself. I was very close indeed, i did not feel fear and in fact felt extremely calm. As you say it really is a natural process, part of life. No one can escape it, we would all like healthy, fulfilling, and probably fairly long lives. In the end for me, and for many others it comes down to the quality of life. I am only 48, but my quality of life is lower than many 70 or 80 year olds. So it's an important choice, and decision as if one succeeds there is no way back. I think in some cultures it is not so feared, there is far less stigma perhaps, though for some cultures it's as if death is to be avoided at all costs. They try to prolong life at the cost of that individuals quality of it at times, that's something i do not understand. If i felt at all as though i had hope that things would get better, realistically i certainly would not entertain any idea of making an exit. However i do firmly believe in the idea that each of us should be able to decide for ourselves without being ostracised by our decision.

That's an interesting way to judge it - my quality of life right now is about the same as the average 75 year old in a western country. I don't work, and I feel I have to rest with a lie down after about 40 minutes on my feet, to let the pain recover somewhat - sitting aggravates the pain further, so I have to be able to lie down, which I can't do if I am at work somewhere, and I am very sore the next day if I do anything slightly strenuous. And I'm 40 years old, with goals and ambitions that require me to be able to work full time and be on my feet half the day, and sat in front of synths making music for the other half, which I can't currently do. And we can't just change our ambitions - they are what they are due to our personality and life influences, and that's that.

And yes, we are obsessed with quantity over quality in relation to life-span. We are all obsessed with 80 to 90 years old - anything less and we say it was too young. If someone lived for 50 years but never worked a day doing something they dislike, and achieved everything they wanted to, we'd still say it was too young - but if someone lived for 90 years but lived a fairly mundane life in a job they loathed half of the time, but ended up with an alright pension and went through all the usual old-age crap, like arthritis, a crumbling spine for the last 10 years, and died of a heart attack or cancer, we'd say they lived a good life. It's all so incoherent and messed up!

 

[AnonymousS]

That's an interesting way to judge it - my quality of life right now is about the same as the average 75 year old in a western country. I don't work, and I feel I have to rest with a lie down after about 40 minutes on my feet, to let the pain recover somewhat - sitting aggravates the pain further, so I have to be able to lie down, which I can't do if I am at work somewhere, and I am very sore the next day if I do anything slightly strenuous. And I'm 40 years old, with goals and ambitions that require me to be able to work full time and be on my feet half the day, and sat in front of synths making music for the other half, which I can't currently do. And we can't just change our ambitions - they are what they are due to our personality and life influences, and that's that.

And yes, we are obsessed with quantity over quality in relation to life-span. We are all obsessed with 80 to 90 years old - anything less and we say it was too young. If someone lived for 50 years but never worked a day doing something they dislike, and achieved everything they wanted to, we'd still say it was too young - but if someone lived for 90 years but lived a fairly mundane life in a job they loathed half of the time, but ended up with an alright pension and went through all the usual old-age crap, like arthritis, a crumbling spine for the last 10 years, and died of a heart attack or cancer, we'd say they lived a good life. It's all so incoherent and messed

I agree completely with what you have said above, i too am unable to work due to very deep depression. Not since 2001, and since then have added chronic fatigue to the list. I don't know you, but have sympathy and empathy with anyone who wants a very different existence than the one they may end up with. Down the years through many hospital admissions, and day centres i have met some amazing people who are dealing with chronic illness. I wish you well.

 

[jk9761]

hello , I am flying to london in October from Korea , is it possible to hook up .

Hi I'm in uk and have been thinking about this method for quite a while, I'm a technician so used to solving mech problems, please feel free to pm

do they allow us to pm each other . i need to meet you in london in October . is it possible

 

[HopefulButPrepared]

I agree completely with what you have said above, i too am unable to work due to very deep depression. Not since 2001, and since then have added chronic fatigue to the list. I don't know you, but have sympathy and empathy with anyone who wants a very different existence than the one they may end up with. Down the years through many hospital admissions, and day centres i have met some amazing people who are dealing with chronic illness. I wish you well.

and to add to that, I hate the way that current healthcare pretends to be more advanced, able and and capable that it really is, in relation to pain. They make up 'pain clinics' as if they know deal with pain, and when they absolutely do not, other than physio, which is in no way an exact science, it's just any form of moving and light strengthening, there are no exact ways of doing it, and cognitive behavioural therapy, which is essentially saying that you're in pain because you're a negative thinker, so this is all your fault basically - whether you get better is on you and your negative thinking, not us, and they treat you exactly like this; if your pain isn't getting better, they question whether you've been sticking with the program, because the program is flawless. They're managed to set it up so that if it goes well, it's their hard work and flawless department that deserves the credit - if it goes badly, it must be your unwillingness to do the program properly somehow, and they'll discharge you and tell you it's not the right time, you're not in the right mental place. But the waiting list is 5 months, so you have to go back to the beginning of the list, and they still may not agree to see you. All of these seperate departments with the NHS system have been given the power and autonomy to decide whether they will see you or not, despite your GP's referral. GP's have had their ballbags surgically removed in relation to referring patient to other departments and treatments, and its disgusting