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"encourage, suggest, manipulate, coerce" he didn't

"or help" Well... I think we get lots of help indirectly... People just sharing...

perhaps by pm would be better
Oh god he's banned! Please he was just a dumb newcomer who didn't know the rules... Why they protect us from being taken down... I was so scared when ss was offline... I understand... But it's so sad...
Even if he wasn't a scammer, telling someone what SN stands for i.e. providing factual information, isn't against the rules, and is very different to luring people to a park to give out 'Free Nembutal' handouts. He happened to be a scammer but he could have also easily been LE or a predator.

Honestly. This is exhausting and I have little patience left for people who believe such bullshit and fall for it.
I've been spending a LOT of time on here trying to warn people of scammers in the past few weeks.
Moths to the flame.
Exactly this. I feel like, at this point, the new members need to be sent an automated mass DM to inform them about things like the basics of internet safety, N scams, and not to post photos revealing SN sources or other sensitive information on the forum. When it's obvious that new members are naive this is only going to attract more scammers and predators to the site.
 
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Come on!
There have been so many threads about scammers.
Have you not seen any of them?

These people start out by being all kind and friendly and sincere. They start a friendly conversation by DM. Eventually they will either send you a fake email as "source" for whatever you are looking for, a phishing link you are supposed to click or they will simply lie to you by making promises like this.

These kind of posts are very clearly against forum rules.
Offering access to a suicide method - even if free - is nothing but enabling and encouraging others to CTB.


https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/fraud-alert-n-from-d-fake-emails.98248/
I haven't seen scams post but I'm rather new and stay in the suicide area. I'm so oblivious. Teach me? I'll check the link.

I panicked when ss was down tonight and gave me email to everyone who pmed me. Wasn't a scam. I felt so lonely to lose you all I almost hanged... So happy to be back ❤️
He'll be back as well. I thought it was @becool, now I don't feel bad for reporting him.
How did you know? What did he do?
 
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I haven't seen scams post but I'm rather new and stay in the suicide area. I'm so oblivious. Teach me? I'll check the link.

I panicked when ss was down tonight and gave me email to everyone who pmed me. Wasn't a scam. I felt so lonely to lose you all I almost hanged... So happy to be back ❤️

How did you know? What did he do?
@becool wld tll ppl tht thy hve accss 2 Ext Intrnatnl Essntls & thn gve thm fke eml addrss fr D whch = actlly thm pretndng 2 b D

Thy hve scammd apprx $3k frm ppl on SaSu
 
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I haven't seen scams post but I'm rather new and stay in the suicide area. I'm so oblivious. Teach me? I'll check the link.

I panicked when ss was down tonight and gave me email to everyone who pmed me. Wasn't a scam. I felt so lonely to lose you all I almost hanged... So happy to be back ❤️

How did you know? What did he do?
PLEASE don't give your email to people on here.
Make a new email through proton mail or such that you solely use for SaSu if you must.
The safest way is not to communicate with others through channels that are NOT the forum.

I posted the link already and it's up to you to read it.

In short: this person sent a fake email to others by DM (and then later through other channels, like email or telegram) claiming it was D's new contact email. They copied exactly the same text that D would use, pretending to be D and then proceeded to take money from people who thought they were corresponding with D to buy N.
 
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Even if he wasn't a scammer, telling someone what SN stands for i.e. providing factual information isn't against the rules, and it isn't the same thing as luring people to a park to give out 'Free Nembutal' handouts. He happened to be a scammer but he could have also easily been LE or a predator.


Exactly this. I feel like, at this point, the new members need to be sent a mass DM to tell them about things like the basics of internet safety, N scammers, and not to post photos revealing SN sources or other sensitive information on the forum. When it's obvious that new members are naive this is only going to attract more scammers and predators to the site.
I'm naive because I want to love everyone here. Brain damage, intense pain and sleep difficulties makes it hard to think.

I deleted one of those posts. I'm starting to notice a lot of ugly stuff in his posts.

I got fooled by his cheerful demeanor! I trust moody people more... Damn he fooled me.
@becool wld tll ppl tht thy hve accss 2 Ext Intrnatnl Essntls & thn gve thm fke eml addrss fr D whch = actlly thm pretndng 2 b D

Thy hve scammd apprx $3k frm ppl on SaSu
Shit... But I don't think I would have believed that he was D. I expect him to be a wise older person like our admin.
 
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Suicidebydeath

No chances to be happy - dead inside
Nov 25, 2021
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How did you know? What did he do?
It was a hunch, I wasn't certain who they were, but it seemed likely it was the same guy (I remember wondering if @Shu would recognize their posting). I was more certain that new guy or not they were a scammer. Someone had been banned recently for N-scamming, so I had been expecting someone to turn up again soon. When they did, and the story looked very contrived, it was an easy early report. There were 3-4 other indicators too, but they can come back and read this post so I don't want to learn everything. I remembered one of them that I think Dot or Shu had mentioned about the scammer before.

The main thing, just mentally dissect someone's story if they turn up here offering N. Or just ignore them completely.
 
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PLEASE don't give your email to people on here.
Make a new email through proton mail or such that you solely use for SaSu if you must.
The safest way is not to communicate with others through channels that are NOT the forum.

I posted the link already and it's up to you to read it.

In short: this person sent a fake email to others by DM (and then later through other channels, like email or telegram) claiming it was D's new contact email. They copied exactly the same text that D would use, pretending to be D and then proceeded to take money from people who thought they were corresponding with D to buy N.
Thank you for the advice & mail service. I trust most of them... But I admit that in my panic I gave it to 2 people I just met 😅 I'm not the sharpest chopstick. It took me way too long to notice that my offline friend was a narc bullying me... She fucked me up bad... I don't notice when I hurt people too, so please let me know so I can apologize.
Even if he wasn't a scammer, telling someone what SN stands for i.e. providing factual information isn't against the rules, and it isn't the same thing as luring people to a park to give out 'Free Nembutal' handouts. He happened to be a scammer but he could have also easily been LE or a predator.


Exactly this. I feel like, at this point, the new members need to be sent a mass DM to tell them about things like the basics of internet safety, N scammers, and not to post photos revealing SN sources or other sensitive information on the forum. When it's obvious that new members are naive this is only going to attract more scammers and predators to the site.
The pm idea is great. I don't have the courage to read all the sticky threads... A safety tip one would be neat.
It was a hunch, I wasn't certain who they were, but it seemed likely it was the same guy (I remember wondering if @Shu would recognize their posting). I was more certain that new guy or not they were a scammer. Someone had been banned recently for N-scamming, so I had been expecting someone to turn up again soon. When they did, and the story looked very contrived, it was an easy early report. There were 3-4 other indicators too, but they can come back and read this post so I don't want to learn everything. I remembered one of them that I think Dot or Shu had mentioned about the scammer before.

The main thing, just mentally dissect someone's story if they turn up here offering N. Or just ignore them completely.
Thank you. I still want to trust people here... But I'll add a mental note to mistrust anyone saying they got N.

I asked several friends fir sources. I think IC and DD are real. DD is suspucious though... Price too low...?
 
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wljourney

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Shit... But I don't think I would have believed that he was D. I expect him to be a wise older person like our admin.

You wouldn't have been able to distinguish the fake emails from the scammer from the "real" emails though.
He simply copied exactly the same wording and phrases from what D used to write/reply to people.

This forum is great.
There are some amazing and very supportive people around here.
But it's also a playground for very disturbed, sick a$$holes.
There are a few threads on how scammers operate. Some are pinned in the "News & Announcements" section.

Make sure to read through them.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/scams-megathread.25509/


https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/be-careful-with-the-personal-information-you-post-here.51112/
 
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I asked several friends fir sources. I think IC and DD are real. DD is suspucious though... Price too low...?
I personally don't know what DD is, but its talked about enough that I think it's real. IC is 100% real.

Quick google gave me the site for DD. It does look cheaper but I don't think it ships to my country.
 
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I haven't seen scams post but I'm rather new and stay in the suicide area. I'm so oblivious. Teach me? I'll check the link.

I panicked when ss was down tonight and gave me email to everyone who pmed me. Wasn't a scam. I felt so lonely to lose you all I almost hanged... So happy to be back ❤️

How did you know? What did he do?
When you spend a bit of time on here as I do you get to notice patterns.

A lot of us panic when the site is down. But it happens every now and again with a lot of sites. I've seen it a few times on here now and the site has always come back.

If you enable emails from SaSu you'll get a message if there's a longer term technical problem. I got an email a while back when we all had to log into a different site for a while. As @wljourney suggested I use a protonmail account even for this. I never give my email to other members.

You can see patterns with scammers. They say how desperate they are. They ask about sources. Then they say they've found a new source. They target newer members and PM them.

As has been said on here loads of times anyone offering N at the moment is a scammer.

Apart from scammers you can also see which members are flying close to the wind with their comments and aren't very nice and it doesn't come as a surprise when they get banned.

I was born into a situation of extreme violence and personal danger and lived that for years. I have a sixth sense of danger and can tell when people aren't legit. I'm hypervigilant and just know who isn't right without thinking.
 
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You wouldn't have been able to distinguish the fake emails from the scammer from the "real" emails though.
He simply copied exactly the same wording and phrases from what D used to write/reply to people.

This forum is great.
There are some amazing and very supportive people around here.
But it's also a playground for very disturbed, sick a$$holes.
There are a few threads on how scammers operate. Some are pinned in the "News & Announcements" section.

Make sure to read through them.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/scams-megathread.25509/


https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/be-careful-with-the-personal-information-you-post-here.51112/
Thank you I will. It hurts to be accused of abuse when being a victim though... I'm so scared to unleash murderous rage at a kind person out if traumatized paranoia that I let people abuse me until I break. I'm working on it. Thanks for the tips!
 
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is very concerning. is not say can use proxy on site, but cant protect privacy location either
Only scammers and the like need to be concerned. There's an option to use a proxy, but not when signing up.
 
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emgrl

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Aug 6, 2022
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It was a hunch, I wasn't certain who they were, but it seemed likely it was the same guy (I remember wondering if @Shu would recognize their posting). I was more certain that new guy or not they were a scammer. Someone had been banned recently for N-scamming, so I had been expecting someone to turn up again soon. When they did, and the story looked very contrived, it was an easy early report. There were 3-4 other indicators too, but they can come back and read this post so I don't want to learn everything. I remembered one of them that I think Dot or Shu had mentioned about the scammer before.

The main thing, just mentally dissect someone's story if they turn up here offering N. Or just ignore them completely.
Exactly. I'm one of the most Giving people you could ever meet, but if I had N, even if I had it in excess… I wouldn't put myself out there for possible imprisonment, or worse being robbed/beaten, for either selling or giving it away. Nope! I'm taking it home, and saving it for a rainy day!
 
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When you spend a bit of time on here as I do you get to notice patterns.

A lot of us panic when the site is down. But it happens every now and again with a lot of sites. I've seen it a few times on here now and the site has always come back.

If you enable emails from SaSu you'll get a message if there's a longer term technical problem. I got an email a while back when we all had to log in to a different site for a while.

You can see patterns with scammers. They say how desperate they are. They ask about sources. Then they say they've found a new source. They target newer members and PM them.

As has been said on here loads of times anyone offering N at the moment is a scammer.

Apart from scammers you can also see which members are flying close to the wind with their comments and aren't very nice and it doesn't come as a surprise when they get banned.

I was born into a situation of extreme violence and personal danger and lived that for years. I have a sixth sense of danger and can tell when people aren't legit. I'm hypervigilant and just know who isn't right without thinking.
Aww that avatar! *Hugs*

Oh god what do I need to turn on to get emails about why the site is down & where to go instead? I tend to only allow pm notifications... Oh god! I could miss out!
is very concerning. is not say can use proxy on site, but cant protect privacy location either
I actually wondered if he looked in asia by using a proxy. But it's usually asians who get censored sites & need proxy? Meh I trust our admin.
 
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Littlewittlelight

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I was going to report this, since someone just messaged me asking about this person (off-site) before I saw this thread, and I already reported their previous post. I see they've already been banned, I figured as much.

For everyone that wasn't aware this person was a scammer in advance, please look at their post history. There are indications its a scam, you just need to recognize what they look like. Anyone who knows the signs could predict that he would be offering "free N" in the near future. In any case, this would expose legally you as being an accessory to crime anyway.

There's no such thing as "free N". Be aware that since D's departure, every person that crops up offering or suddenly having a new source of N is 100% a scammer.
Okay his English is too bad for British not judging but that's also a fallacy and I am not even English or English speaker but look at that and maybe he wouldn't scam but play with people call them to the city and waste their time. That doesn't do much but it does because they may have some resentment towards the community because they were banned for scamming? Can only wonder what kind of people these are who are trying to feed off all this.
 
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Only scammers and the like need to be concerned. There's an option to use a proxy, but not when signing up.
oK is see
good i not get one of these pm for SN
 
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Exactly. I'm one of the most Giving people you could ever meet, but if I had N, even if I had it in excess… I wouldn't put myself out there for possible imprisonment, or worse being robbed/beaten, for either selling or giving it away. Nope! I'm taking it home, and saving it for a rainy day!
And I do trust those words you indeed are and if you offered I wouldn't take it because I can't but I would take fent cookies for sure. I am just kidding there is no easy way I think really don't rely on anyone because the laws make it impossible on top of that these people come out of nowhere to scam suicidal people. This was a trap I at first thought maybe they are genuine but thank goodness rain confirmed. Most of us wouldn't be able to buy it either way but there is a potential risk of scamming on SS. There is no easy way.
 
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Okay his English is too bad for British not judging but that's also a fallacy and I am not even English or English speaker but look at that and maybe he wouldn't scam but play with people call them to the city and waste their time. That doesn't do much but it does because they may have some resentment towards the community because they were banned for scamming? Can only wonder what kind of people these are who are trying to feed off all this.

The scam follows later.

Think of:
- sharing real names and locations from where they would travel, phone numbers to connect when meeting locally
- once he has that info, he can find you on other sites (Facebook etc) and blackmail you for money by threatening to contact your friends/family/employer etc.
- or simply send you a link with malware that will read your personal info/banking details etc.

Most of us don't have the technological knowhow to imagine these things.
99% also don't have the criminal mind to imagine what could be done with the info and how it can be exploited.
 
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And I do trust those words you indeed are and if you offered I wouldn't take it because I can't but I would take fent cookies for sure. I am just kidding there is no easy way I think really don't rely on anyone because the laws make it impossible on top of that these people come out of nowhere to scam suicidal people. This was a trap I at first thought maybe they are genuine but thank goodness rain confirmed. Most of us wouldn't be able to buy it either way but there is a potential risk of scamming on SS. There is no easy way.
Bahahaha! I won't give up on the F cookie dream! I'm like you, I have done everything for myself, I'm very self-sufficient. I had even engaged in conversation with becool. I knew almost instantly that he wasn't D, and it was a scam. It just goes to show, in this state, anyone can fall victim to these jerks.
 
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The scam follows later.

Think of:
- sharing real names and locations from where they would travel, phone numbers to connect when meeting locally
- once he has that info, he can find you on other sites (Facebook etc) and blackmail you for money by threatening to contact your friends/family/employer etc.
- or simply send you a link with malware that will read your personal info/banking details etc.

Most of us don't have the technological knowhow to imagine these things.
99% also don't have the criminal mind to imagine what could be done with the info and how it can be exploited.
100% agree thankfully I know I can't even afford N and the other things else their post got so much attention. I had nothing to do with pming them or interested in N but I even wished him thinking do whatever you want and I also commented think about the consequences and then do something, you would want to be familiar with laws that's it and he didn't reply back. Was trying the whole time to build reputation. This is really bad to do with people who are vulnerable and suffering. It's bad that they can potentially threaten telling someone's family. It didn't even come to my mind and it really can happen then and yeah they can send malware and even simple apps like keylogger then do transactions on your behalf. The world is cruel and if some people are good and atleast live with rules it doesn't mean everyone will refrain from exploiting the people in their worst phase. You guys better know there even are apps that create the log of keys pressed on your device and from there they can see the patterns. Anything repeated mean personal info and they can use it somehow so we can try to take everyone who offers anything as a scammer that would actually be safe even if we miss out on N or whatever unless it's from a reliable source because this is getting real bad.
 
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Yes, I can see why they choose telegram too. It enables them to delete the entire conversation you had leaving no trace for you or them.
 
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Bahahaha! I won't give up on the F cookie dream! I'm like you, I have done everything for myself, I'm very self-sufficient. I had even engaged in conversation with becool. I knew almost instantly that he wasn't D, and it was a scam. It just goes to show, in this state, anyone can fall victim to these jerks.
Yeah I can say some of you people know and have been here for longer and I heard of that whole case and some of us are really vulnerable so 1-2 people get scammed everytime it's really bad I thank you guys and wljourney for for making people aware of it. how people come back again and again. Nope, I am not giving up on fent cookie dream either until I either go from here or get those cookies.
 
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Aww that avatar! *Hugs*

Oh god what do I need to turn on to get emails about why the site is down & where to go instead? I tend to only allow pm notifications... Oh god! I could miss out!
Have a big hug from the ajolote (axolotl).

To get emails click on the three lines (burger) top left of the screen. Then click on your username at the top. Then scroll down the list until you get to email options and click on receive news and update emails. I only had one email in the year I've been here but at least you know you're covered if anything happens.

PS Don't forget to save as I sometimes do!
 
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It's nice how this thread is becoming an anti scam warning.

Omg I want Fentanil cookies! Let me give you my adress, credit card and first born son! And a kidney or two.

Can't we contact the black market and make a donation? I'm sure they're good at making corpse dissapear... Or kidnapping sex slaves, nevermind...

I found it weird how he ignored my warning that one of us might be a cop meeting him at the park
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Have a big hug from the ajolote (axolotl).

To get emails click on the three lines (burger) top left of the screen. Then click on your username at the top. Then scroll down the list until you get to email options and click on receive news and update emails. I only had one email in the year I've been here but at least you know you're covered if anything happens.
Thank you it was checked by default 🙂
 
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It's nice how this thread is becoming an anti scam warning.

Omg I want Fentanil cookies! Let me give you my adress, credit card and first born son! And a kidney or two.

Can't we contact the black market and make a donation? I'm sure they're good at making corpse dissapear... Or kidnapping sex slaves, nevermind...

I found it weird how he ignored my warning that one of us might be a cop meeting him at the park
Bahaha! No need for organs or anything else hun… I wish I could bake them into cookies 😋

He's a scammer, they think differently than us… think they're untouchable.
 
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Have a big hug from the ajolote (axolotl).

To get emails click on the three lines (burger) top left of the screen. Then click on your username at the top. Then scroll down the list until you get to email options and click on receive news and update emails. I only had one email in the year I've been here but at least you know you're covered if anything happens.
Aw, why can't I pm you I wanted to be closer friends. You were so kind about my comics, seemed to look up to me, but now I look up to you, and noticed that you're an elder with 2k posts!? *Hugs* pm me?
 
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Dude do you really think that I would be so stupid as to fly to England and hope that you were: Not a cop. Not a do-gooder trying to save souls. Not a member of the press doing a piece on suicide. Not the British version of say, Jeffrey Dahmer. Love ya dude, appreciate the offer, but no way in hell.
 
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Bahaha! No need for organs or anything else hun… I wish I could bake them into cookies 😋

He's a scammer, they think differently than us… think they're untouchable.
Hahaha organ cookies! Actually I tasted 100% liver threats for dogs, better than juicy livers and probably more nutricious than most threats.

Turn me into cookies!

Maybe he was a narc. Or psychopaths. They're master manipulators.
Dude do you really think that I would be so stupid as to fly to England and hope that you were: Not a cop. Not a do-gooder trying to save souls. Not a member of the press doing a piece on suicide. Not the British version of say, Jeffrey Dahmer. Love ya dude, appreciate the offer, but no way in hell.
Looks like not everyone get scammed. *Throws confettis and a crown* is Jeffery a serial killer?
 
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Bahaha! No need for organs or anything else hun… I wish I could bake them into cookies 😋

He's a scammer, they think differently than us… think they're untouchable.
Thy wre also nt cncrnd as thy hd n/ intentn of meetng n.e.1
 
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