Forced suicide prevention is a violation of someone else's body.

[Zzzzz]

I wonder how the anti-suicide gestapo sleep at night knowing they believe it's a good thing to violate someone's body against their will? If a person does not have the full rights to their own body, Then they have no Rights at all. At least legally speaking. Of course, someone can possibly still kill themselves illegally. But it is clearly unreasonable and inhumane that a person should have to do something that is actively and aggressively prohibited, and which could result in horrible consequences if resucitated, in order to be free from all suffering in life.

 

[theguineapigking]

You're absolutely right. I can understand trying to talk someone down if they're going through a potential temporary problem I guess. But people like us who are depressed and suicidal for years should NOT be forced to live.

Voluntary euthanasia really needs to be legalized everywhere(I'm in the USA). It's absolutely ridiculous that you can take your dog to be mercifully released from their pain, but God forbid if a human being wants to be freed from their agony.

It makes me laugh(in an annoyed way) that suicide is illegal and punishable in some countries. What a joke.

 

[electrojellysoup]

In the abortion debate, pro choice people say that under no circumstances can a person be forced to give up their bodily autonomy for the sake of another, even to sustain life. But for some reason when it comes to the person's own life, it's totally different? If anything, it should be even more abhorrent

 

[Mynameisnotimportant]

Imma play the devil's advocate
Implied consent is tricky. I would obviously want someone to call ambulance if I am having a seizure. But what if I'm unconscious from a seizure from a drug overdose and just want to die.

I would also want someone to stop me if I got really intoxicated and started hurting myself, a fun habit of mine.

It's tricky to draw the line of if the person in question is "of sound mind". I personally draw it if a plan has been thought of a plan soberly for at least a month.

 

[ivetriedsohard]

I don't understand why they can't just say go through a couple sessions of counseling and if you still want to die the give you an N prescription. It'll give folks access to much needed mental health care and prevent so many unsafe attempts to ctb

 

[little helpers]

I wonder how the anti-suicide gestapo sleep at night knowing they believe it's a good thing to violate someone's body against their will? If a person does not have the full rights to their own body, Then they have no Rights at all. At least legally speaking. Of course, someone can possibly still kill themselves illegally. But it is clearly unreasonable and inhumane that a person should have to do something that is actively and aggressively prohibited, and which could result in horrible consequences if resucitated, in order to be free from all suffering in life.

you know, they don't sleep at night. psych prison nurses who's up there for you 24/7. shit, this is way too ironic.

it's a nightmare having those flashlights strike you every two hours. cannot sleep. feels like a motherfucking crime scene I was at, as if I'd have to put double hands up. *humiliating*.

policing is everywhere. prison facilities, psych facilities. cops and narcs, doctors and nurses. drug use, suicide. searchlight every two hours, motherfucking eye-burning glares that goes up at 3 am. same things. bodies.

Imma play the devil's advocate
Implied consent is tricky. I would obviously want someone to call ambulance if I am having a seizure. But what if I'm unconscious from a seizure from a drug overdose and just want to die.

I would also want someone to stop me if I got really intoxicated and started hurting myself, a fun habit of mine.

It's tricky to draw the line of if the person in question is "of sound mind". I personally draw it if a plan has been thought of a plan soberly for at least a month.

gotta need medical bracelets that says "don't save me". put it on only when ctb'ing.

 

[Crazy4u]

I think it is very cruel to prevent suicide if someone has already started. It causes permament damage or disability.

The society needs to accept that some people find relief and peace in ctb. Suicide is not just for terminally ill or mentally ill. There is nothing wrong for an adult to ctb if they want. Life is hard and not everyone can put up with it!

 

[FuneralCry]

Stopping a suicide attempt is just prolonging someones suffering. It is our life and our decision and it is nothing to do with anyone else. Nobody else should have any right to interfere. We should be able to die in peace, if that is our choice, as we did not ask to exist in the first place. Wanting suicide can be perfectly rational in a life like this. Anyone who says that life is always worth living is clearly delusional.

 

[Ankou]

It's tricky to draw the line of if the person in question is "of sound mind"

I've the perfect idea. If you murder someone and can't be found not guilty by reasons of insanity because you still understand the consequences despite your mental condition, then you're well enough to not be involuntarily committed for a suicide attempt

No really, why is it that when you try to kill yourself everyone will be quick to label you with a mental illness (even if you don't have one) and say you're unable to take responsability or make decisions. But when you murder someone else everyone will desperately try to discredit your condition

 

[Zzzzz]

I've the perfect idea. If you murder someone and can't be found not guilty by reasons of insanity because you still understand the consequences despite your mental condition, then you're well enough to not be involuntarily committed for a suicide attempt

No really, why is it that when you try to kill yourself everyone will be quick to label you with a mental illness (even if you don't have one) and say you're unable to take responsability or make decisions. But when you murder someone else everyone will desperately try to discredit your condition

People are delusional. Scientists call life survival of the fittest and yet people pretend it's inherently good and worth living for all people. I don't think suicide prevention is entirely based on false optimism. But I think people are also just selfish and refuse to let others die in peace.

 

[ARawYouth]

I don't understand why they can't just say go through a couple sessions of counseling and if you still want to die the give you an N prescription. It'll give folks access to much needed mental health care and prevent so many unsafe attempts to ctb

I had to laugh at the oxymoron "unsafe attempts to ctb". You made my day.

you know, they don't sleep at night. psych prison nurses who's up there for you 24/7. shit, this is way too ironic.

it's a nightmare having those flashlights strike you every two hours. cannot sleep. feels like a motherfucking crime scene I was at, as if I'd have to put double hands up. *humiliating*.

policing is everywhere. prison facilities, psych facilities. cops and narcs, doctors and nurses. drug use, suicide. searchlight every two hours, motherfucking eye-burning glares that goes up at 3 am. same things. bodies.


gotta need medical bracelets that says "don't save me". put it on only when ctb'ing.

I was just thinking that, like if the person has a note saying they're intending to die, then it should be illegal for emergency personnel to "save" them. I like the medical bracelet idea. Could also get a DNR, but you risk them not knowing until after they've "saved" you.

 

[ivetriedsohard]

I had to laugh at the oxymoron "unsafe attempts to ctb". You made my day.

I was just thinking that, like if the person has a note saying they're intending to die, then it should be illegal for emergency personnel to "save" them. I like the medical bracelet idea. Could also get a DNR, but you risk them not knowing until after they've "saved" you.

no other way to put it but imagine doing it wrong and ending up physically unable to try again and stuck living worse than before