Feeling lucky with SN and in disbelief

[crystalskies31]

Does anyone else also feel ridiculously lucky that SN exists and that we have an exit option. I feel like this is one of the only times in my life that I was lucky.

Also, I struggle to truly believe that the SN will work. I keep worrying it won't and trying to make it foolproof. Part of my trauma is this kind of anxiety about everything and worrying that all the bad things happening to me are 'punishing' me for not being good enough in some way. But SN is actually really effective, isn't it?

 

[Idontmatter]

Does anyone else also feel ridiculously lucky that SN exists and that we have an exit option. I feel like this is one of the only times in my life that I was lucky.

Also, I struggle to truly believe that the SN will work. I keep worrying it won't and trying to make it foolproof. Part of my trauma is this kind of anxiety about everything and worrying that all the bad things happening to me are 'punishing' me for not being good enough in some way. But SN is actually really effective, isn't it?

I've seen multiple people presumably die that were on this forum from sn so I'm pretty confident it will work. I'm using it but without ae. I have one more month left and then I'm gone. My crazy brain will finally be shutdown for good.

 

[freedompass]

Honestly? Not really

 

[narudo]

It can be if used correctly. For the most part.

 

[befree]

I DID feel lucky when it arrived. But now I probably wont use it anymore.

 

[FuneralCry]

I do not have SN, but I know that it is a relief for many people, having the option to exit this world at a time of their own choosing. I do believe that knowing there is a way out can make life more bearable. It is awful, feeling like you are trapped in this world with no method. I envy those who are gone from this world, to me they are the lucky ones.

 

[losing hope]

SN is a nice option, if you are unable to get N.

Apologies If I am asking a stupid question here but does SN have a shelf life if you DON'T open it?

Planning to buy some now, whilst you still can and possibly store it until I am ready to ctb.

 

[Judy Garland]

Does anyone else also feel ridiculously lucky that SN exists and that we have an exit option. I feel like this is one of the only times in my life that I was lucky.

Also, I struggle to truly believe that the SN will work. I keep worrying it won't and trying to make it foolproof. Part of my trauma is this kind of anxiety about everything and worrying that all the bad things happening to me are 'punishing' me for not being good enough in some way. But SN is actually really effective, isn't it?

I have thoughts that my SN won't work either. I have thoughts that I'm just going to wake up with a massive headache. I hope not. I hope when I take my SN that I get to finally leave this planet.

 

[crystalskies31]

SN is a nice option, if you are unable to get N.

Apologies If I am asking a stupid question here but does SN have a shelf life if you DON'T open it?

Planning to buy some now, whilst you still can and possibly store it until I am ready to ctb.

around 3 years apparently

 

[Niirvana]

I find it hard to believe that I have the exit to all my problems in the cupboard. I doubt its effectiveness. But I am comforted by the goodbye posts from people who have left with SN. I want to believe that it works, in fact, I think you have to be aware that it works

 

[crystalskies31]

I find it hard to believe that I have the exit to all my problems in the cupboard. I doubt its effectiveness. But I am comforted by the goodbye posts from people who have left with SN. I want to believe that it works, in fact, I think you have to be aware that it works

Yeah. I get it. I just have had so much bad luck in my life, that I wouldn't be surprised if this got screwed up too

 

[Ethereal Knight]

SN is very reliable, as long as you don't vomit too soon and don't get taken to the hospital early.

yes, vomiting can be a problem in the SN method, that's why it's recommended to use anti-emetics and have backup glasses. this method is amazing, but not perfect.

 

[crystalskies31]

SN is very reliable, as long as you don't vomit too soon and don't get taken to the hospital early.

yes, vomiting can be a problem in the SN method, that's why it's recommended to use anti-emetics and have backup glasses. this method is amazing, but not perfect.

Thanks. My main concern is vomiting. I am planning to do 48hr method.

 

[Ethereal Knight]

Thanks. My main concern is vomiting. I am planning to do 48hr method.

I guess lastest PPH recommends 30mg of metoclopramide + 8mg of ondansetron, 40 minutes before the SN drink.

in the SN drink, they recommend 25-35g of SN and 400mg of propranolol, dissolved in 50-100ml of water, mixed with a cheap automatic mini-mixer.

read the April or May 2022 edition of the PPeH.

 

[crystalskies31]

I guess lastest PPH recommends 30mg of metoclopramide + 8mg of ondansetron, 40 minutes before the SN drink.

in the SN drink, they recommend 25-35g of SN and 400mg of propranolol, dissolved in 50-100ml of water, mixed in with a cheap automatic mini-mixer.

read the April or May 2022 edition of the PPeH.

Thanks I've read it, I've also read Stan's guide here.
It seems like most people follow Stan's guide actually. That's where I got the 48 hours thing.
I have all the other stuff Stan suggests. He doesn't suggest prop. or having a mini-mixer.

 

[Ethereal Knight]

Thanks I've read it, I've also read Stan's guide here.
It seems like most people follow Stan's guide actually. That's where I got the 48 hours thing.
I have all the other stuff Stan suggests. He doesn't suggest prop. or having a mini-mixer.

Stan's guide is older and free, that's probably why most people follow it. PPH is paid, more recent and written by doctors. when it comes to a relatively recent method like SN, the experience from these 3 years between Stan's guide and the 2022 PPH makes a difference.

propranolol is considered by PPH as a potentiator. not as "luxury" as other guides consider.

 

[crystalskies31]

Stan's guide is older and free, that's probably why most people follow it. PPH is paid, more recent and written by doctors. when it comes to a relatively recent method like SN, the experience from these 3 years between Stan's guide and the 2022 PPH makes a difference.

propranolol is considered by PPH as a potentiator.

Thanks for this info! I didnt know that Stan's guide was older.
In the PPH it says they only have very limited numbers of people who've done it. So that made me think I don't know how accurate it is.
It also points out about vomiting. That's why I'm extra worried.

Re: propranolol. I've seen some threads that it can cause more damage if you're found if you take it.

 

[hankbank3928]

Yes I am thrilled to have a peaceful and reliable exit. This nightmare can finally be over.

 

[Ethereal Knight]

Thanks for this info! I didnt know that Stan's guide was older.
In the PPH it says they only have very limited numbers of people who've done it. So that made me think I don't know how accurate it is.
It also points out about vomiting. That's why I'm extra worried.

Re: propranolol. I've seen some threads that it can cause more damage if you're found if you take it.

SN is very reliable.
if vomit gets in the way of success, one can simply try again on a later date.
there are also the backup glasses.

now about what you said on propranolol, I didn't hear about it, but the place I'm gonna be when I drink SN makes it very unlikely that anyone is gonna find me too early.

 

[crystalskies31]

SN is very reliable.
if vomit gets in the way of success, one can simply try again on a later date.
there are also the backup glasses.

now about what you said on propranolol, I didn't hear about it, but the place I'm gonna be when I drink SN makes it very unlikely that anyone is gonna find me too early.

I am concerned about people finding out about the attempt, should it fail. I am only going to be able to do it in a rented hotel room, so I'm going to rent it for several days I think, and try and do it at the beginning. It's super stressful, though, figuring out timings

SN is very reliable.
if vomit gets in the way of success, one can simply try again on a later date.
there are also the backup glasses.

now about what you said on propranolol, I didn't hear about it, but the place I'm gonna be when I drink SN makes it very unlikely that anyone is gonna find me too early.

My initial idea was to book for several days and attempt early. If fail, attempt again

there are also the backup glasses

It is also unclear if drinking 2nd glass is definitely a good idea. I mean yes I will have several (2-3) but the more water is drunk, the more likely throwing up is.

 

[Shu]

Thanks for this info! I didnt know that Stan's guide was older.
In the PPH it says they only have very limited numbers of people who've done it. So that made me think I don't know how accurate it is.
It also points out about vomiting. That's why I'm extra worried.

Re: propranolol. I've seen some threads that it can cause more damage if you're found if you take it.

Hi. In the updated version of PPeH it mentions that there are 80 something observed SN deaths but so far they have only listed about 25. Of those 25 almost all of them say it was "peaceful" except for one. I hope to see the reports of the other ones & hope they update it soon with the information.

 

[Judy Garland]

Yeah. I get it. I just have had so much bad luck in my life, that I wouldn't be surprised if this got screwed up too

Yup me too.

 

[crystalskies31]

Hi. In the updated version of PPeH it mentions that there are 80 something observed SN deaths but so far they have only listed about 25. Of those 25 almost all of them say it was "peaceful" except for one. I hope to see the reports of the other ones & hope they update it soon with the information.

how much do you think the propranolol affects whether it is peaceful or not?

 

[Niirvana]

Honestly? Not really

Why you said that?

 

[freedompass]

Why you said that?

I just don't feel lucky. We're talking about taking a horrible salty poison, struggling to keep it down and dying a lonely, messy, unpleasant death. Lucky is just not a word I'd use, personally. Lucky would be a peaceful assisted death possibly with loved ones present.