Faking my GPS location so I can ctb

[Chasing Sleep]

Kinda got myself into a pickle today.

So, I have 2 bottles of N and I was hoping I could chug them tomorrow. The problem is that my parents currently are paranoid about everything I do and it's very hard to sneak around them.

After work today, I drove to a nearby trailhead/park that's only a 5-10 minute walk from my house. I searched around the trails and found the perfect little nook to ctb, right by the river. I only spent about 40 minutes on the trails before I went back to my car.

My dad was parked behind my car, looking around for me. Apparently, he was tracking my location on Life 360. I have no idea how he got suspicious so quickly because I was only gone for 40 extra minutes- I swear it's like they have an extra sense to detect when I'm up to some shit. I feel crushed because I fell in love with my bus stop location and it would be so easy to get to whenever I'm ready to chug, but now I've made the location suspicious.

Now I'm trying to figure out how I might go about faking my GPS location for my ctb date. A user recommended an app to me several days ago, but unfortunately, I realized the app they recommended was Android exclusive and all the iOS "location changer" apps are horribly rated. I have Nord VPN, but I don't know if I can actually use it to change an iOS location on Life 360.

Is there anyone out there that might have any suggestions? I'm so distraught

 

[mandyjohnuk]

Hi.
If your determined then leave your car and phone and walk or get the bus or train to a small hotel wear you won't be bothered. Be happy.

 

[FinalPeace]

My dad was parked behind my car, looking around for me. Apparently, he was tracking my location on Life 360. I have no idea how he got suspicious so quickly because I was only gone for 40 extra minutes- I swear it's like they have an extra sense to detect when I'm up to some shit. I feel crushed because I fell in love with my bus stop location and it would be so easy to get to whenever I'm ready to chug, but now I've made the location suspicious.

Now I'm trying to figure out how I might go about faking my GPS location for my ctb date. A user recommended an app to me several days ago, but unfortunately, I realized the app they recommended was Android exclusive and all the iOS "location changer" apps are horribly rated. I have Nord VPN, but I don't know if I can actually use it to change an iOS location on Life 360.

Is there anyone out there that might have any suggestions? I'm so distraught

Why is your dad tracking the location of a grown adult as if you're some kind of lost puppy?? Does he follow you to the bathroom too?

Sounds like you are underage. I don't know of any parents that track their grown adult children on apps. Either you need to get a job and pay for your own phone or set some serious boundaries fast.

 

[CommitSudoku]

It's not my place to answer, but sometimes we're "adults" while not really being adults. Especially I feel a lot of us grew up in such a way or with such circumstances that it's hard to leave our parents immediately. And if @Chasing Sleep gave indication of being suicidal before or was caught in an attempt, it makes sense to me their parents would be on high alert. My fear is getting caught far enough in a serious attempt that I'm saved but never can try properly again. Once you lose someone's trust it becomes very hard to ever earn it back or to be looked at the same.

I'd honestly ask what's keeping you from leaving your phone behind completely? That seems the easiest solution unless the car can be tracked. If the car can be tracked perhaps add in more hiking and be sure to go far off the trail? You could go at a time when you're sure they're asleep perhaps but you'd have to be careful. I don't use iOS, so can't offer apps. If you want a phone around in case you want to abort and call for help then perhaps you could get a burner phone or something.

 

[Interloper]

I don't know of any parents that track their grown adult children on apps.

Oh my sweet summer child...

 

[Chasing Sleep]

Why is your dad tracking the location of a grown adult as if you're some kind of lost puppy?? Does he follow you to the bathroom too?

Sounds like you are underage. I don't know of any parents that track their grown adult children on apps. Either you need to get a job and pay for your own phone or set some serious boundaries fast.

It's a complicated situation. My parents and friends know I've been having suicidal thoughts (made the mistake of opening up last week) so everyone's paranoid. My family and a close friend basically begged me to log into this app so they could monitor where I am. My fault for being honest about what I was feeling, but I didn't realize they'd be quite this suffocating.

In their defense, I did confess to buying a gun a few weeks back. I voluntarily handed it over last week in hopes I could establish "trust"...but understandably it's impossible to trust someone in a suicidal mindset, so I get it- it just sucks.

 

[LastLoveLetter]

The OP has specified that they are an adult. They have also posted further clarification regarding their circumstances. It is not uncommon for parents and loved ones to actively monitor their relatives that they know are suicidal, including adults.

Concerns about underage members can be reported so that Mods can look into it. We do strictly enforce this rule and actively ban those we discover to be underage.

Keep this thread on topic and be supportive towards OP and each other please. Thank you.

 

[Chasing Sleep]

I wanna thank anyone who offered me support on this thread, but it looks like it seriously derailed. I think I got reported for being "underaged" (I'm 27 by the way. I feel like it's highly unlikely a child could pull off both buying a gun and ordering N from D.) and my decision to end my life is my own. It should not be difficult to respect that.

Anyways I think I have my answer. I wanted to fake my location in an effort to deter suspicion, but I'll just have to stick to planting my phone someplace random and then chugging my N away from there. I was just wondering if anyone knew of any reliable apps that could alter GPS location so I could do a better job of covering my tracks.

Threads should be supportive, not attempting to pick apart my personal situation. I shouldn't have to feel inclined to share details to confirm my "adultness", but yes I am an adult in a situation where I am heavily monitored- it happens.

As my best friend has put it, "suicidal people aren't allowed privacy". That should speak volumes regarding my situation on its own.

 

[Chasing Sleep]

Maybe this is the discussion you should be having with your parents then in regards to being monitored. That would be a very adult discussion to have.

If you can stand up to a bunch of strangers on a website then why not.

Because the last time I did that I had the cops at my door. Then I was taken to a "care facility" where I did nothing but sit around in an auditorium for 3 days eating semi-pleasant pudding before being released with a bill for 4,000 USD

Most family/friends aren't going to just accept their loved one's decision to end their lives.

 

[Angi]

I wanna thank anyone who offered me support on this thread, but it looks like it seriously derailed. I think I got reported for being "underaged" (I'm 27 by the way. I feel like it's highly unlikely a child could pull off both buying a gun and ordering N from D.) and my decision to end my life is my own. It should not be difficult to respect that.

Anyways I think I have my answer. I wanted to fake my location in an effort to deter suspicion, but I'll just have to stick to planting my phone someplace random and then chugging my N away from there. I was just wondering if anyone knew of any reliable apps that could alter GPS location so I could do a better job of covering my tracks.

Threads should be supportive, not attempting to pick apart my personal situation. I shouldn't have to feel inclined to share details to confirm my "adultness", but yes I am an adult in a situation where I am heavily monitored- it happens.

As my best friend has put it, "suicidal people aren't allowed privacy". That should speak volumes regarding my situation on its own.

I think you stepped into the bee's nest of rampaging fear that this site will be shut down. I know you could take all the weight in this thread onto your own shoulders, but maybe you could just view it as anxiety that does not actually have anything to do with you (presuming you are an adult and able to make your own decisions).

You seem to have your loved ones cornered. You told them you plan to ctb, so now they will do anything they can think of to stop you. I guess this is their only choice to avoid placing even more guilt than the unavoidable on their own shoulders. This is a pill you will have to swallow, either way. I see two options starting from there:
- As suggested above, leave your phone and other devices at home or somewhere far from your destination, and hide where you will not be found for at least 12h, better 24h. (Personally, I have no idea how I would do that.)
- Give your loved ones some time to relax. This will mean you will have to hold it together for a while, but it will give you space. Plus, you seem to have people around you, both family and friends, who care about you. I am sure your situation is shitty, or you would not be considering to ctb. Maybe there is something they could actually do for you? Something that would feel better than just following you around? Now is probably an excellent time to ask for it.

 

[western_heart]

Can you disable/uninstall Life360? Are there any restrictions on your device that require someone else/'s password to override? I am unfamiliar with this software.

Here are my thoughts on location tracking for my own situation:

I already got caught once picking up SN because I rode my bike to get it & my fitness app I use to track exercise reported my ride to my friends. My GF didn't know what I was doing for sure until I told her, but she had suspicions.

My gf can see my location through iCloud (I want this, most of the time, it generally makes our lives easier). I may have to leave my phone, watch, headphones, airtags, and laptop behind, but as part of my to do list, I intend to figure out how to disable location sharing. Everything I have is configured to be findable if lost or stolen. The devices are expensive so I would like for them to be reused after I am dead. But I also don't want to totally unlink my iCloud account in case I don't go through with it at the last minute.
having my headphones with me as I die will be nice.

I intend to go to a hotel, don't know where, but will most likely drive there. I'll probably want a phone for directions and managing the reservation and playing music, so I might get a burner.

My car's connected services will ONLY report the car's location if there is an accident or the car is reported stolen by the owner (me). So I am not concerned about it.

If I end up getting a hotel room, I will use the credit card that GF is not an authorized user of, as we share my main account. I am already careful not to use this card (or the shared Amazon account, or the mail that we both get informed delivery for) for suicide adjacent purchases.

 

[LastLoveLetter]

This thread is getting increasingly derailed so I will need to lock it temporarily and tidy up the comments here so that this can remain on topic.

Once unlocked, please stick to the subject of the thread and be supportive towards each other and the OP please. If members want to debate about boundaries and other nuances surrounding choice (which both have their place here as subjects to perhaps discuss separately - they are just not suitable for this thread or in this context), you can create a new thread for it instead of derailing this one. Thank you.

 

[NearlyIrrelevantCake]

I think the easiest solution is just to not bring your phone with you and travel on foot, by taxi, etc. I would be worried they're also tracking your car, so I would avoid using that when you leave to CTB.

 

[LONE WOLF.]

I wanna thank anyone who offered me support on this thread, but it looks like it seriously derailed. I think I got reported for being "underaged" (I'm 27 by the way. I feel like it's highly unlikely a child could pull off both buying a gun and ordering N from D.) and my decision to end my life is my own. It should not be difficult to respect that.

Anyways I think I have my answer. I wanted to fake my location in an effort to deter suspicion, but I'll just have to stick to planting my phone someplace random and then chugging my N away from there. I was just wondering if anyone knew of any reliable apps that could alter GPS location so I could do a better job of covering my tracks.

Threads should be supportive, not attempting to pick apart my personal situation. I shouldn't have to feel inclined to share details to confirm my "adultness", but yes I am an adult in a situation where I am heavily monitored- it happens.

As my best friend has put it, "suicidal people aren't allowed privacy". That should speak volumes regarding my situation on its own.

Have you considered buying a older phone? Like a pre-2000 phone?

 

[NearlyIrrelevantCake]

Have you considered buying a older phone? Like a pre-2000 phone?

A modern flip phone would work, too. I have a flip phone I bought new ~3 years ago and it can't install or run any apps, period. Can't even use the fucking Internet on it.

 

[VoidDesirer22]

Yes think carefully about where to plant your phone. I wonder if it's found too early if there'd be some panic. Seems like mentioning your suicidality has your family highly strung.

I wish you the best.

 

[Chasing Sleep]

Hi.
If your determined then leave your car and phone and walk or get the bus or train to a small hotel wear you won't be bothered. Be happy.

Hey!
This was my original plan- and I do still think it's the most secure. I just feel like I'd be less at peace in a random hotel bed. It may have to come to that though.

I know N works differently depending on the situation but I'd like to imagine it may work quicker in my case. I'm very small, 5'1 and only around 90-100 pounds and I've been told one bottle of N is enough to take down someone who's 110 pounds. I'm going to be chugging 2. I've been debating a more "comforting" ctb location (for example, the woods because I love being out in nature) because I don't think it would take hours to kill me. I guess it all depends on what I'm willing to risk

I think you stepped into the bee's nest of rampaging fear that this site will be shut down. I know you could take all the weight in this thread onto your own shoulders, but maybe you could just view it as anxiety that does not actually have anything to do with you (presuming you are an adult and able to make your own decisions).

You seem to have your loved ones cornered. You told them you plan to ctb, so now they will do anything they can think of to stop you. I guess this is their only choice to avoid placing even more guilt than the unavoidable on their own shoulders. This is a pill you will have to swallow, either way. I see two options starting from there:
- As suggested above, leave your phone and other devices at home or somewhere far from your destination, and hide where you will not be found for at least 12h, better 24h. (Personally, I have no idea how I would do that.)
- Give your loved ones some time to relax. This will mean you will have to hold it together for a while, but it will give you space. Plus, you seem to have people around you, both family and friends, who care about you. I am sure your situation is shitty, or you would not be considering to ctb. Maybe there is something they could actually do for you? Something that would feel better than just following you around? Now is probably an excellent time to ask for it.

Yeah, I think you're right, I didn't realize people were that on edge about those sorts of fears. In reality, parents being protective of their suicidal, adult children isn't all that uncommon. I had a user mention in another one of my threads that his mom tracked his location all the way to a gun shop where he was trying to purchase a firearm to ctb. She called the cops on him and he had no idea she was even tracking him. He's in his 30's.

I appreciate your suggestions by the way- it's definitely a tricky situation and also just my fault for telling them about these thoughts. I feel like the only place to guarantee you won't be found for hours is if you check into a hotel and make sure your car isn't parked anywhere near.

Can you disable/uninstall Life360? Are there any restrictions on your device that require someone else/'s password to override? I am unfamiliar with this software.

Here are my thoughts on location tracking for my own situation:

I already got caught once picking up SN because I rode my bike to get it & my fitness app I use to track exercise reported my ride to my friends. My GF didn't know what I was doing for sure until I told her, but she had suspicions.

My gf can see my location through iCloud (I want this, most of the time, it generally makes our lives easier). I may have to leave my phone, watch, headphones, airtags, and laptop behind, but as part of my to do list, I intend to figure out how to disable location sharing. Everything I have is configured to be findable if lost or stolen. The devices are expensive so I would like for them to be reused after I am dead. But I also don't want to totally unlink my iCloud account in case I don't go through with it at the last minute.
having my headphones with me as I die will be nice.

I intend to go to a hotel, don't know where, but will most likely drive there. I'll probably want a phone for directions and managing the reservation and playing music, so I might get a burner.

My car's connected services will ONLY report the car's location if there is an accident or the car is reported stolen by the owner (me). So I am not concerned about it.

If I end up getting a hotel room, I will use the credit card that GF is not an authorized user of, as we share my main account. I am already careful not to use this card (or the shared Amazon account, or the mail that we both get informed delivery for) for suicide adjacent purchases.

I'm sorry to see you're in a bit of a similar situation

With Life 360, users in your "circle" can see if you turn off your location. I actually had it off until recently, and my mom and best friend were hounding me to turn it back on because they thought I was up to something. My friends ended up guilting me into turning it back on last week. I shouldn't have caved in, and now if I turn it off again they will definitely know something's up.

I have seen one workaround/suggestion online, and that's if you turn off cellular data for the app it displays your last seen location as your "current" location. Unfortunately, there's no way for me to test this out since I can't see what my profile looks like on the other end.

In regards to hiding a hotel transaction, I actually thought about this- in case I have to end up going the hotel route myself. I'll probably just end up trying to pay with cash.

I think the easiest solution is just to not bring your phone with you and travel on foot, by taxi, etc. I would be worried they're also tracking your car, so I would avoid using that when you leave to CTB.

Yeah for sure- it might be the smartest to just plant my phone inside my car and leave it as a decoy. I'll definitely have to pick an entirely new ctb location because of my dad. Huge bummer that park was so cozy

Have you considered buying a older phone? Like a pre-2000 phone?

This might be one of the most clever solutions yet.
It wouldn't be a bad idea to just break the phone I have now and replace it with some kind of fossil. At least that way I'd be free. Well, free-er at least

Yes think carefully about where to plant your phone. I wonder if it's found too early if there'd be some panic. Seems like mentioning your suicidality has your family highly strung.

I wish you the best.

Thank you friend

You know, it's kind of funny- I feel like I'd be the least likely to get caught if I just drank the N and told everyone I was taking a nap in my room for a few hours. This is the one location I would outright refuse though. I want to avoid my family members being the ones to discover the body by all means possible.

 

[Chasing Sleep]

Solved It!

I did some research and found a PC app (AnyGo) that I can use to spoof my location I may have accidentally set my location to the middle of the ocean on Life 360 so hopefully no one noticed that lol

I still don't plan to take my phone with me when I ctb but at least I can easily make it look like I'm at work or something.