Fake SN Posts

[CantDoIt]

Remember if you all can to discuss potentially fake SN Posts in a location like this one instead of on the list itself.

 

[rozeske]

Remember if you all can to discuss potentially fake SN Posts in a location like this one instead of on the list itself.

I understand the intention behind the idea of discussing fake sn posts on a separate thread like this one. The problem is if no one says anything on those fake posts in fear of potentially offending people, those fake or suspicious posts will remain to look genuine, hence posing a risk of misinforming anyone that stumbles on them and they may not see the separate thread in which the fakeness of that post had been discussed. Not just fake posts but there are several posts where further questioning and discussion solved the issue of what went wrong thanks to those that persisted to get to the bottom of it, which serves as a lesson to op or to anyone that stumbles up on it. This is a suicide discussion section, I don't believe you should be offended for any questions or discussions, especially on a method like sn that gets more attention and on an anonymous forum that makes things more complicated.

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

This is a suicide discussion section, I don't believe you should be offended for any questions or discussions

I'm offended by this, it's completely my right to be offended by everything all the time.
That was tongue in cheek by the way
Fuck, what if you don't read that far?? Fingers crossed the emoji works

I don't really know how this site works or how overloaded the mods are etc so please forgive the ignorance - I'm sorry I'm not better informed - but this fake posts stuff has still been rattling away in my mind. I said I was putting down my social justice cape & I am, (really, I am) but is there any possibility of having another button like "report" but only available to senior members (for lack of a better word, sorry) to create a mini watch list of potentially suspicious members??? And then if mods see them posting the same shit on multiple threads, it might speed up action??
Or that just shitpost & disappear (not CTB, just shitpost & then MIA)
Not for every random person you disagree with or are fucking offended by (!!!) but if it's really off??? I don't want to add to the workload of anyone, I don't want to take away free speech from anyone or censor or create a hierarchy or anything bad at all, so please don't come at me, I'm too tired…. But is that something we could do? And do in the sanctuary or the new thing (& again, apologies I don't actually know what the sanctuary or the new thing is, & yes I read the mods answer with all the missing letters, I'm just not understanding what it's about yet, I need more letters, obvs…)

 

[rozeske]

I'm offended by this, it's completely my right to be offended by everything all the time.
That was tongue in cheek by the way
Fuck, what if you don't read that far?? Fingers crossed the emoji works

Unfortunately the being offended by anyone and anything seems to come with the territory I guess, what with the nature of the site and our mental state most of the time and all...don't worry I read it for it's intended purpose :) but even if you were offended i wouldn't hold it against you, I would just tell you that you are overreacting and to calm down :)

I don't really know how this site works or how overloaded the mods are etc so please forgive the ignorance - I'm sorry I'm not better informed - but this fake posts stuff has still been rattling away in my mind. I said I was putting down my social justice cape & I am, (really, I am) but is there any possibility of having another button like "report" but only available to senior members (for lack of a better word, sorry) to create a mini watch list of potentially suspicious members??? And then if mods see them posting the same shit on multiple threads, it might speed up action??
Or that just shitpost & disappear (not CTB, just shitpost & then MIA)
Not for every random person you disagree with or are fucking offended by (!!!) but if it's really off??? I don't want to add to the workload of anyone, I don't want to take away free speech from anyone or censor or create a hierarchy or anything bad at all, so please don't come at me, I'm too tired…. But is that something we could do? And do in the sanctuary or the new thing (& again, apologies I don't actually know what the sanctuary or the new thing is, & yes I read the mods answer with all the missing letters, I'm just not understanding what it's about yet, I need more letters, obvs…)

I get your frustration and I share it but I don't think there really is a way for mods to avoid them without taking away freedom of speech and all that except when they are against forum rules. Plus with the site being anonymous and only an online thing, there really is no true way of segregating such types of posts and removing them without the risk of potentially hurting genuine posters or offending members. There are the obvious trolls that mods take care of but posts that are suspicious at best will only be left untouched and you can see them even from way back. But if you look at the comment sections you will see the issue solved and addressed, mostly. There are others where no one said anything except freak out and question the method itself, which is just sad to see. I think the best thing to do is free discussion in the comments section of such posts without having to walk on eggshells in fear of offending others or make the discussions separate to spare their feelings. People need to learn to not always be offended or take it personally. We need to understand the gravity of such matter. People need to be accepting and be part of the site's aim of providing accurate information. Misinforming posts, other than reporting them, need to be addressed right there and then so they don't start spreading around and become the norm or potentially become a danger to anyone that implements them.

P.s. The sanctuary is just a lot more quieter version of this board, that just gives you a sense of a bit more privacy with the added bonus feeling of frustration you made it this far to be a part of (atleast in my case).

 

[sevennn]

I'm lactose intolerant and have some other food allergies.
If something as harmless as milk or certain food can put me in intense pain I don't really find it hard to believe that literal poison that kills you will do the same.
I think you guys are to quick to label those posts as fake.

exactly

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Boggles my mind that so many people will believe anything they see on the Internet , Tv , youtube , media , movies without confirming it

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

Unfortunately the being offended by anyone and anything

Ohhh just grow up. All of you offended mofo's. I respect everyone, sincerely, & I try really hard & I understand there is genuine offense to be had & all of it. I do. But being offended for offended's sake is just so tiring, so reactionary, so entitled. I'm Australian & we have an awful (but occasionally funny) saying that I assume is ours (too lazy to fact check this, but it defs sounds like us) - have a glass of cement & harden the fuck up. Abbreviated as HTFU. I dunno for sure if it's ours, I dunno if the rest of you lot say it, it can also be misappropriated by bigots, all of that. But geez, sometimes it's apt. I'll circle back to saying I respect everyone so I get in less trouble, maybe

but even if you were offended i wouldn't hold it against you, I would just tell you that you are overreacting and to calm down :)

This though!!!! THIS!!!
Thank you
As a narcissistic trauma survivor who was minimised their entire life, this should be triggering. That's a true story, not a joke.
I can hear how awful that was to hear, feel the abuse, that was just the start.
BUT I STILL THINK YOUR LINE IS AWESOME!!
Thank you!!
I won't claim Australia came up with "never in the history of calming down…" tho…

there really is no true way of segregating such types of posts and removing them without the risk of potentially hurting genuine posters or offending members.

That's why I suggested a watch list instead of straight out deletion - it gives everyone the benefit of the doubt, over time, until it's been proven one way or another. Instead of immediate kneejerk stuff. It's just a thought & not a fully fledged one, I admit.

I think the best thing to do is free discussion in the comments section of such posts without having to walk on eggshells in fear of offending others or make the discussions separate to spare their feelings. People need to learn to not always be offended or take it personally.

Dude, I tried to say something nice (I thought), repeatedly, & started the first flame war of my life. I was shook. I asked the mods to delete it because it's not how I choose to live. It was an eye opener. I won't be repeating that error & I'm stepping the fuck back from debate. I'm out. Unfortunately / fortunately. Either / either. I legit wasn't trying to hurt anyone & thought I actually WAS walking on eggshells, but if I come off a certain way, it's not helping the cause for me to piss people off or make myself sick second guessing myself.

People need to be accepting

best of luck

The sanctuary is just a lot more quieter version of this board

I kinda figured that one but not the new one. No disrespect to mod, at all, I swear, I just need the occasional vowel in a sentence. I'm old.

I'll leave this be here, I won't keep hijacking your posts, or this thread, so I'll just say goodnight & thanks.

 

[rozeske]

@DOHARDTHINGS24 at the risk of hijacking this thread I just want to say always trust your instinct and don't let anyone deter you from speaking your mind. I think I've seen that interaction you mention and fwiw I thought it was appropriate and respectful and something that could have been replied with a simple answer. That is what I mean by people overreacting and taking it personal. It's the internet, no one here really knows you or can see what you're up to, so why are you being offended if people have questions when you can simply answer them and clear things up? Anyways Goodnight to you

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

@DOHARDTHINGS24 at the risk of hijacking this thread I just want to say always trust your instinct and don't let anyone deter you from speaking your mind. I think I've seen that interaction you mention and fwiw I thought it was appropriate and respectful and something that could have been replied with a simple answer. That is what I mean by people overreacting and taking it personal. It's the internet, no one here really knows you or can see what you're up to, so why are you being offended if people have questions when you can simply answer them and clear things up? Anyways Goodnight to you

Ok, so like one last hijack…
Reprogramming your brain to trust your gut after abuse is always a challenge. Undoing a lifetime, especially from multiple trusted people, can be so insurmountable, it's part of the reason I'm here. Not the whole reason. I am leaning in to my gut more lately tho.
But maybe the publicly speaking my mind part of my days is behind me. Maybe my opinions are best left restricted to full blasts in private, no holds barred, but also no consequences. I literally don't have the fight left in me for myself, it's bonkers to be fighting for (or with) someone else. And the negative cloud around me this last week or so, that can't be how I go out.
Thank you again.
You're still not the problem

 

[butterflyguy]

Can anyone link to the post in question? I can't find it

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

Can anyone link to the post in question? I can't find it

I don't have time to reread the thread sorry, but I think I remember it being covered on the first page about mods intervening or deleting in some way which may explain it if you're just looking for the one. Sorry if I misunderstood, it's bedtime for me….

 

[LifeQuitter]

Can anyone link to the post in question? I can't find it

goodbye cruel world lol

i drank my SN and already vomited. the taste is horrible. HORRRIBLE. and my stomach hurts, and it burned my throat. i dont have it in me to drink a second glass. my hands are shaking and my head hurts. i wish i didnt have to do this. ill miss him i hope he can forgive me one day. if it doesnt...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[Adûnâi]

I get the feeling there are also just people here who are targeting what is currently the most popular ctb method on this forum.

To be fair, I did read one report of a voice call with a person taking SN, it took 15min and didn't sound completely peaceful?

If I were to share my useless & idiotic thoughts, I'd say two things:

1) I personally would hate my hypothetical goodbye thread to be all "hugs 'n kisses xoxoxo", because I'm edgy as heck myself (I would press a nuclear button btw, don't have pity on me ok I'm evil, and I wasn't even abused, so I don't have excuses);

2) the ancient Japanese pagan samurai split their bellies with knives, and that must have hurt, so while such SN threads do scare me away, I also remind myself not to be a <censored>;

3) taking a larger picture look, it's all just an extension of the war, in this case - of lifecucks against pro-mortalists; they will lie to make us suffer until the end, totally to be expected.

Yeah, that's my position too. People are so afraid of suffering when they die that they will throw all common sense out of the window. My advice: don't read any SN posts on here. Read the PPH, all the information you need is in there. All the cases they observed were sucessful, and no prolonged suffering before dying has been reported. Yes, SN isn't a 100,00 % method, but all the risks can be accounted for and mitigated. It's not a coin toss wether you fail or succeed. Don't make things more complicated than they are.

Why is PPH not a post in itself? I can't even find it, it's so confusing. I hate these loops, I don't understand why so many hoops have to be jumped? Is this legal stuff? But it's not yucky stuff like ISIS so it's not banned? I hate this. I feel like everything in English is so stifling and cryptic, and mysterious and arcane.

 

[DOHARDTHINGS24]

Why is PPH not a post in itself? I can't even find it, it's so confusing. .

In Suicide Discussion, there's a few sticky threads at the top. PPH essentials 2022 is there.
Hope that helps.

 

[dazednconfused]

I think hes talking about the cat person profile pic.

Saw them in a thread yesterday "what would stop you from CTB" and they replied "a cure for my illness"
Then a day later saying they are doing SN and followed all the procedures yet still took them a hour to pass out.

Account was made on 9/11 , considering how long it took me to figure out everything i needed and no sources ship SN that fast.
So within a week they found all the info they needed? and got all the supplies within a week.... Allegedly

Idk if i believe it either. But what kind of sick person fakes a CTB thread for attention. Maybe a kid. Or maybe they already had SN? idk man

i browsed this forum anonymously for a week or so and got as much info as i could before i joined, then joined and stuff after i bought everything. (supposed to be here the 13th-16th, along with meto and benzos is from local) i think its possible to get the supplies within about a week.
didnt read the account, but im just playing devils advocate that maybe they did some things wrong or something.. but could very well just be dishonesty lol..
just putting this here cus i dont want ppl to doubt me either just cus i got my stuff recently lolllolol

Hey, as someone who's had a medical procedure that resulted in vomiting several times within an hour, when you vomit with nothing in your stomach, it turns into vomiting a thick green substance like lime jello. Stomach bile or whatever is able to come up.

It is strong contractions when the body can't stop vomiting while there's nothing inside but something still does come up and it's painful. Medical professionals have to give you an injection to stop you from vomiting at that point. It's possible.

i overdosed on sum psych meds and i vomited up like yellowish stuff with chunks of like gel-jello looking white pieces in it. hadnt eaten or barely had anything to drink.. it was so odd to see..