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I've been a lurker for a while...decided to make an account here and ask for help.

I attempted to ctb with the helium exit bag method but I failed because I just didn't pass out.

I read that you should pass out in seconds, at most 40 seconds. But I felt normal.

"Maybe the bag was not tight enough and the helium escaped."
But I even stuck the tube up my nose and breathed only through my nose for a minute. Nothing.

It's as if the helium had no effect on me. Just like air. But it does change my voice and make ballons float well. What should I do.....

Here is where I bought it from....it says it is pure. I'm also not a dummy and I did my research and followed instructions perfectly so why did it not work?

I feel so bad that I want to kill myself, but apparently I can't

. https://www.amazon.fr/freelium®-Go-250-Hélium-bouteille/dp/B01NCNRGWR
 
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Tiburcio

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I've been a lurker for a while...decided to make an account here and ask for help.

I attempted to ctb with the helium exit bag method but I failed because I just didn't pass out.

I read that you should pass out in seconds, at most 40 seconds. But I felt normal.

"Maybe the bag was not tight enough and the helium escaped."
But I even stuck the tube up my nose and breathed only through my nose for a minute. Nothing.

It's as if the helium had no effect on me. Just like air. But it does change my voice and make ballons float well. What should I do.....

Here is where I bought it from....it says it is pure. I'm also not a dummy and I did my research and followed instructions perfectly so why did it not work?

I feel so bad that I want to kill myself, but apparently I can't

. https://www.amazon.fr/freelium®-Go-250-Hélium-bouteille/dp/B01NCNRGWR


Now, helium is mixed with oxygen for prevent suicide. Pure helium is not sold. If you want to do the exit bag method, try nitrogen, it has the same effect, but is more expensive.
 
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Couchking

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May 29, 2018
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Now, helium is mixed with oxygen for prevent suicide. Pure helium is not sold. If you want to do the exit bag method, try nitrogen, it has the same effect, but is more expensive.
Eventhough it said 99%....

But you have to be right since I felt perfectly fine and not even a little dizzy. Those companies how are they even allowed to lie like that???

Where do I buy pure nitrogen?
What can I say if someone asks me why I need it?

I'm a few months shy off being 18 so I can't buy it now and I need it ASAP.

Helium can be ordered online no questions asked. How about nitrogen?

Please help me. If I can't do this I might just jump off a hotel.
 
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Tiburcio

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Eventhough it said 99%....

But you have to be right since I felt perfectly fine and not even a little dizzy. Those companies how are they even allowed to lie like that???

Where do I buy pure nitrogen?
What can I say if someone asks me why I need it?

I'm a few months shy off being 18 so I can't buy it now and I need it ASAP.

Helium can be ordered online no questions asked. How about nitrogen?

Please help me. If I can't do this I might just jump off a hotel.

Dude, if I would know how to easily obtain nitrogen, I wouldn't be here now!

The only thing I know about nitrogen is that is mostly used for industrial purposes. If you search nitrogen, you could obtain some information.
 
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Samuel

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You're young Couchking. Things could change dramatically for you. You'll always have the option.
 
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Has anybody tried buying gas cylinder from one of these websites which specialise in selling gas? The delivery fees appear to be cosmic, but it looks like it may be an option. I wonder if they ask any questions?
 
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Couchking

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I'll just have to go with a painful way since I can't easily acquire nitrogen or nembutal.

If anyone has any theory on why I failed please write it here...
 
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Spiko

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@Couchking
It depends, from which country you are. Are you from the European Union (EU)?
If yes, i know some methods. But you aren't 18 of age yet?
 
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chronicpainnomore

Not Circling the Drain Anymore
May 31, 2018
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Has anybody tried buying gas cylinder from one of these websites which specialise in selling gas? The delivery fees appear to be cosmic, but it looks like it may be an option. I wonder if they ask any questions?
I'm in the US, and I went to my local AirGas store, told them I needed a size 40 nitrogen tank. It was 120 dollars. I plunked over the cash, they made me sign a waiver because I was transporting it in a car which is dangerous (if they only knew why I was buying it) and the waiver said to drive with the windows down in case there is a gas leak and buildup.

I grabbed the tank, put it in my car, and drove home. That was it. No questions asked, in and out in about 10 minutes.
 
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May 9, 2018
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I'm in the US, and I went to my local AirGas store, told them I needed a size 40 nitrogen tank. It was 120 dollars. I plunked over the cash, they made me sign a waiver because I was transporting it in a car which is dangerous (if they only knew why I was buying it) and the waiver said to drive with the windows down in case there is a gas leak and buildup.

I grabbed the tank, put it in my car, and drove home. That was it. No questions asked, in and out in about 10 minutes.

Make you get a regulator,that it doesnt leak, and set a flow rate thats enough to maintain 2 hours of unconciousness (or longer) .

Dont set the rate so high it blows the bag off, hurts to breathe due to extreme pressure, but make sure your rate is high enough to keep you from ever having to exhale CO2 or inhale any Oxygen.
 
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May 31, 2018
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Make you get a regulator,that it doesnt leak, and set a flow rate thats enough to maintain 2 hours of unconciousness (or longer) .

Dont set the rate so high it blows the bag off, hurts to breathe due to extreme pressure, but make sure your rate is high enough to keep you from ever having to exhale CO2 or inhale any Oxygen.
I bought this one off Amazon. Works fine. The meter is calibrated for Argon and Carbon Dioxide so you just have to do the math and adjust accordingly for nitrogen. It was much cheaper than the Max Dog Brewing regulator.
 
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mathquestions12345

Member
Apr 17, 2018
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That is a great find. Not sure how to change the calibration but still cheaper than the one from the welding shop by 120.
 
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Voidbringer

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Apr 20, 2018
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You have to buy helium from a gas supplier or welding store. They should be fine...

All those disposable helium cannisters seem to be mixed with air.
 
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chronicpainnomore

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May 31, 2018
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I think a good rule of thumb is if the helium canister is red/pink, it's mixed with air and no good. The older ones that were grey/beige were good, but those are nearly impossible to find now.

EDIT: I'm talking about the disposables.
 
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Voidbringer

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Apr 20, 2018
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Helium King cannisters are grey however I wouldn't bet on it being pure helium.
 
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Didn't OP show the link where it says 99%????

....what could be the cause here.
 
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chronicpainnomore

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May 31, 2018
310
It could be the company is cutting the helium and lying about it. 80% helium will still float a balloon, the only difference is it's less lethal. There could be a leak somewhere in the circuit or in the bag. If you're not scrunching the bag up on your head to remove all air before inflating, or completely exhaling before pulling the bag down over your head, there could be enough residual oxygen to be causing a problem.
 
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Aity4883

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Mar 28, 2018
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It could be the company is cutting the helium and lying about it. 80% helium will still float a balloon, the only difference is it's less lethal. There could be a leak somewhere in the circuit or in the bag. If you're not scrunching the bag up on your head to remove all air before inflating, or completely exhaling before pulling the bag down over your head, there could be enough residual oxygen to be causing a problem.

Is it even legal to lie about things like that? Anyway you could fact-check that??

Also it doesn't seem like OP made any mistakes on his execution of the method. From what he said.
 
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May 31, 2018
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In the USA, I imagine it would be. In France, I have no idea. I'm just throwing ideas out there. The bottom line is that if you create and maintain an atmosphere of pure inert gas around your head, you will CTB. So somehow, oxygen is getting into that bag.
 
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Aity4883

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In the USA, I imagine it would be. In France, I have no idea. I'm just throwing ideas out there. The bottom line is that if you create and maintain an atmosphere of pure inert gas around your head, you will CTB. So somehow, oxygen is getting into that bag.

Well...Had a similar case to this. And I did it all right. NO AIR GETTING ANYWHERE.

This dude even stuck the tube up his nose lmao. What's your theory there?
 
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chronicpainnomore

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That the company is misrepresenting that helium. If it were me, I would acquire nitrogen or helium from an industrial supply company. You can't fleece welders the way you can fleece people throwing a children's birthday party.
 
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