Eyedrops Method

[QuincyME]

Anybody here anything new or promising about the eyedrops/tetrahydrozoline method lately? It hasn't been discussed here in quite a while. Any and all information would be appreciated. I really want to give this method a try, but my one concern is vomiting. I have crippling emetophobia.

 

[Fallun777]

Anybody here anything new or promising about the eyedrops/tetrahydrozoline method lately? It hasn't been discussed here in quite a while. Any and all information would be appreciated. I really want to give this method a try, but my one concern is vomiting. I have crippling emetophobia.

Anybody here anything new or promising about the eyedrops/tetrahydrozoline method lately? It hasn't been discussed here in quite a while. Any and all information would be appreciated. I really want to give this method a try, but my one concern is vomiting. I have crippling emetophobia.

There were a few of us talking about Visine (Tetrahydrolozine).
If you search "Visine for Suicide".

I have been reading as much as I can on it but there's some good information on that Thread.

I wonder if it's toxicity is kept quite on purpose.
If it was discovered as the new go to like SN a lot of money would be at stake.
If the government stepped in and demanded the dose of Tetrahydrolozine be reduced it would have a negative effect on manufacturers.

Personally I think mixing it with other CNS depressants ie Opiate and Benzos mixed with Visine might "Supercharge" that combo.

You can read on housewife's poisoning their husbands with a few drops over time lethal then read I drank 10 bottles and was fine.
I think it's worth looking into.
Someone on that thread had come up with a rough dosage calculation.

 

[Unlucky777]

I tried 8 bottles last March. Unfortunately I'm still here. Next day I felt like garbage and was very very dizzy. I'm not sure how those people killed their spouses or whatever but I want to find out more how they did it.

 

[OnMyLast Legs]

My hunch is that drinking eye drops won't kill you.

 

[Unlucky777]

My hunch is that drinking eye drops won't kill you.

Tetrahydrozoline is a poison and there have been a few murders (look up in the news) where the perpetrators used eye drops to kill their victims

 

[QuincyME]

There were a few of us talking about Visine (Tetrahydrolozine).
If you search "Visine for Suicide".

I have been reading as much as I can on it but there's some good information on that Thread.

I wonder if it's toxicity is kept quite on purpose.
If it was discovered as the new go to like SN a lot of money would be at stake.
If the government stepped in and demanded the dose of Tetrahydrolozine be reduced it would have a negative effect on manufacturers.

Personally I think mixing it with other CNS depressants ie Opiate and Benzos mixed with Visine might "Supercharge" that combo.

You can read on housewife's poisoning their husbands with a few drops over time lethal then read I drank 10 bottles and was fine.
I think it's worth looking into.
Someone on that thread had come up with a rough dosage calculation.

Yea I've read every post/thread on this website and looked up everything I could find on the internet which wasn't much. I'd give anything to know how to make this method work. I bet there's someone out there that knows.

I tried 8 bottles last March. Unfortunately I'm still here. Next day I felt like garbage and was very very dizzy. I'm not sure how those people killed their spouses or whatever but I want to find out more how they did it.

You and me both.

 

[Dawnfang]

Keep in mind I got this info from cursory google searches and back of the napkin math.

Tetrahydrozoline has an oral LD50 of 785mg/kg in rats. Meaning if you give 785mg for each kg that an individual weighs (ie 1570mg for a 2kg individual), this is enough to kill in 50% of cases.

If we extrapolate this number to a say 150lbs person (68kg) then they would require 53,380 mg, or 53 grams.

Visine, an over-the-counter Tetrahydrozoline product contains 0.5mg/mL in bottles of 15mL. So 7.5mg of Tetrahydrozoline in a bottle. And a 150lbs individual needs 53,380mg to reach the LD50 dosage. That means you need to take something like 7 thousand bottles.

Now, I am aware of cases where people have been poisoned by Tetrahydrozoline without realizing, and I can't imagine slipping 7k bottles of Visine in someone's drink lol. I don't really know what to make of this. The LD50 is stated by the manufacturers themselves, on regulated Safety Data Sheets. Maybe you can find Tetrahydrozoline products at much higher concentration than 0.5mg/mL but I couldn't find any.

TL;DR: If you take my data at face value though, ctb with Tetrahydrozoline is very unlikely to work.

 

[Fallun777]

Keep in mind I got this info from cursory google searches and back of the napkin math.

Tetrahydrozoline has an oral LD50 of 785mg/kg in rats. Meaning if you give 785mg for each kg that an individual weighs (ie 1570mg for a 2kg individual), this is enough to kill in 50% of cases.

If we extrapolate this number to a say 150lbs person (68kg) then they would require 53,380 mg, or 53 grams.

Visine, an over-the-counter Tetrahydrozoline product contains 0.5mg/mL in bottles of 15mL. So 7.5mg of Tetrahydrozoline in a bottle. And a 150lbs individual needs 53,380mg to reach the LD50 dosage. That means you need to take something like 7 thousand bottles.

Now, I am aware of cases where people have been poisoned by Tetrahydrozoline without realizing, and I can't imagine slipping 7k bottles of Visine in someone's drink lol. I don't really know what to make of this. The LD50 is stated by the manufacturers themselves, on regulated Safety Data Sheets. Maybe you can find Tetrahydrozoline products at much higher concentration than 0.5mg/mL but I couldn't find any.

TL;DR: If you take my data at face value though, ctb with Tetrahydrozoline is very unlikely to work.

So strange as there have been multiple poisoning/murders from drops daily in someone's juice. From their significant other.

 

[QuincyME]

So strange as there have been multiple poisoning/murders from drops daily in someone's juice. From their significant other.

That's the thing I don't get. People on here claim they've downed as many as 10 bottles and it didn't do anything and then you see these news stories where it gets sprinkled on someone's food and it's lights out. Makes no sense.

 

[Unlucky777]

That's the thing I don't get. People on here claim they've downed as many as 10 bottles and it didn't do anything and then you see these news stories where it gets sprinkled on someone's food and it's lights out. Makes no sense.

I think with these cases (based on my understanding of forensic files I've watched) was that the SOs poisoned them over a long period of time. I recall a few cases where spouses killed their SO via poisoning via say antifreeze over a long period of time until death. Can anyone in the know confirm this methodology (I'm guessing here)

Also I read a story about a guy who tried to CTB with 8 bottles I think and he brought himself to the hospital. His blood pressure dropped significantly but not enough to kill him. Have to find a link to the study

 

[QuincyME]

I think with these cases (based on my understanding of forensic files I've watched) was that the SOs poisoned them over a long period of time. I recall a few cases where spouses killed their SO via poisoning via say antifreeze over a long period of time until death. Can anyone in the know confirm this methodology (I'm guessing here)

Also I read a story about a guy who tried to CTB with 8 bottles I think and he brought himself to the hospital. His blood pressure dropped significantly but not enough to kill him. Have to find a link to the study

I think I read that one. It was an older guy who couldn't see his grandkids or something like that.

 

[Unlucky777]

I think I read that one. It was an older guy who couldn't see his grandkids or something like that.

Yeah that's the one. He checked himself in the next day.

 

[Dawnfang]

So strange as there have been multiple poisoning/murders from drops daily in someone's juice. From their significant other.

Right, which is why I said I don't know what to make of this. There's a non-zero chance I'm missing something but idk. Someone in the thread suggested Visine poisonings are done over long periods of time which might be the explanation.

 

[A_Spartan_Dead]

Poisoning over time cases seem to have been some years ago where eye drops were mixed in with other chems and into specific dishes that potentially increased the toxicity of the meal. Else I got no idea.
Drinking eye drops out of the bottle doesn't seem to work, I've also tried it but just ended up sick and no closer to CTB. If they worked we'd have had a bunch of successful CTBs.

 

[Forveleth]

You also have to ask yourself what condition these people were in. How old were the people who died? Did they have other medical conditions? Were they poisoned with anything else along side what was reported? This is what makes poisoning (and ODs for that matter) difficult to recommend as a method as they rely on a larger number of variables than merely "take X amount".

 

[Unlucky777]

Poisoning over time cases seem to have been some years ago where eye drops were mixed in with other chems and into specific dishes that potentially increased the toxicity of the meal. Else I got no idea.
Drinking eye drops out of the bottle doesn't seem to work, I've also tried it but just ended up sick and no closer to CTB. If they worked we'd have had a bunch of successful CTBs.

What side effects did you experience, if any? I was dizzy af and could not maintain my balance for a few days. I hated it. Most likely won't try that again FWIW

 

[A_Spartan_Dead]

I felt sick in my stomach with nausea and vomiting urges, headache and kinda sleepy.

 

[petoria]

You also have to ask yourself what condition these people were in. How old were the people who died? Did they have other medical conditions? Were they poisoned with anything else along side what was reported? This is what makes poisoning (and ODs for that matter) difficult to recommend as a method as they rely on a larger number of variables than merely "take X amount".

I have seen the spouse poisoning husband and the other one let me share you the exact ss of the blood composition so we can help each other out , none of us want to end up vegetable we want to ctb without a chance of survival I am idk about you guys , if you are not I'm sorry , I want to pm and communicate and get down to specifics so I can ctb today asap

 

[endlesschatter]

I have seen the spouse poisoning husband and the other one let me share you the exact ss of the blood composition so we can help each other out , none of us want to end up vegetable we want to ctb without a chance of survival I am idk about you guys , if you are not I'm sorry , I want to pm and communicate and get down to specifics so I can ctb today asap

Visio eye drops don't really kill. So don't rely on it. How are you my friend?

 

[petoria]

I'm hoping to ctb it does work , but it was heart breaking to know that one victim had pre existing heart condition other had a pacemaker that's all I know it just took him 3 full visines to die , fml one thing I was happy about today finally a otc medicine readily available to ctb , but what if I overdo it 20-40 or somewhere in between what are my chances

Visio eye drops don't really kill. So don't rely on it. How are you my friend?

Waiting to ctb how do you think I am doing not to be rude but I guess no one in here is doing really well unless they came for recovery resources , I'm not one of them , it's either strangulation or jumping from a tall building or running into traffic ( I don't want to do either of the last two and put others at risk or traumatize them but day by day I'm out of options )

 

[endlesschatter]

I'm hoping to ctb it does work , but it was heart breaking to know that one victim had pre existing heart condition other had a pacemaker that's all I know it just took him 3 full visines to die , fml one thing I was happy about today finally a otc medicine readily available to ctb , but what if I overdo it 20-40 or somewhere in between what are my chances

Waiting to ctb how do you think I am doing not to be rude but I guess no one in here is doing really well unless they came for recovery resources , I'm not one of them , it's either strangulation or jumping from a tall building or running into traffic ( I don't want to do either of the last two and put others at risk or traumatize them but day by day I'm out of options )

I'm in the same shoes as yours my friend. I can't pm you at the moment, or else i could have told you something. We are friends already..(don't mention my name though if you've guessed me correctly)
No matter what method you try just don't try jumping or running into traffic, they don't end well usually.

 

[petoria]

I have not guessed but pm anyway it would end well if the vehicle is going 70 mph I don't weigh much and if it's the only vehicle on road and I leave some money for damages and note saying I'm sorry that don't help with trauma but someone wanted to die they did it , you didn't kill anyone or anyone who didn't wanna die and not to blame themselves but I don't think I would do that it's my ditch and desperate attempt