AscendedBeing

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So I'm hearing there's a compound in eye drops that can be lethal. Does anyone have any info on this and what the effects might look like?
 
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Very, very unlikely to be lethal. I suspect the worst that could happen is severe damage to your eye as blood vessels would burst/swell up. All eye drops are tested (FDA if you're in the US) to prevent accidents. If you're referring to drinking the liquid, professionals suggest this:

Problems begin to manifest when the drops are – accidentally or purposely – taken orally, as the compound passes directly into the GI tract and is quickly absorbed into the blood and central nervous system. This can technically lead to an overdose, with symptoms of such "eye drop poisoning" including shallow breathing, reduced heartbeat, hypothermia, drowsiness and possible risk of entering a coma. (Matossian Eye Associates)
 
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Feb 26, 2023
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Hi, i am a student studying organic chemistry.

according to my scientific chemical database the, active ingredients in eye drops are toxic, but non lethal in reasonable doses.

Feel free to contact me regarding any other educational questions ^^
 
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Hi, i am a student studying organic chemistry.

according to my scientific chemical database the, active ingredients in eye drops are toxic, but non lethal in reasonable doses.

Feel free to contact me regarding any other educational questions ^^
Messaged you.
 
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SamTam33

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When the eyedrop recall in the US occurred a few weeks ago, I examined all my bottles and saw belladonna as the active ingredient in one of them.

The belladonna.

Maybe that's the ingredient you're thinking of.

But if it's been formulated to put into your eyeballs, surely the poisonous elements have been removed.

Although the other ingredients might aid in ctb, as with the stories of death by Visine. That's why I have so many bottles lol. I bought a bunch just in case it surfaced as a viable method.
 
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I'm mostly interested in the idea of extracting the tetrahydrozline from them and combining it with the SN method to be used as a sedative. Reason being is I've heard the effects of SN came be quite uncomfortable before the person goes unconscious including the feelings of suffocating/drowning. If one could have a accurate time lapse on the time it takes for the tetrahydrozline to sedate someone those effects of the SN can be avoided entirely in theory.
 
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From what I've read the eye drops being poison is a myth.
 
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SamTam33

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From what I've read the eye drops being poison is a myth.
This story lists at least 2 examples. It's long and I didn't finish so there could be more.

The first victim was described as having a blood concentration of "68 nanograms per mil."

I had no idea what that meant until his wife confessed to using the entire bottle at once.

Detectives think she administered small doses at first to incapacitate him, then used an entire bottle.

The coroner said a few drops would make you nauseous and dizzy, but an entire bottle would suppress your breathing and cause your respiratory system to shut down.

In both cases, the deaths were originally ruled a heart attack so something about its effects must mimic one.

This is the first time I've read this particular story and it gives me something to think about...

It's also described as odorless and tasteless.


 
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This actually looks like it's the perfect poison to CTB on. Better than SN. Tasteless, odourless, inexpensive, and readily available.
 
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orca87

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Mar 22, 2023
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This actually looks like it's the perfect poison to CTB on. Better than SN. Tasteless, odourless, inexpensive, and readily available.
Only problem is that you'd need to ingest 1,000 bottles to be reliable. Look up LD50 of the active ingredient.
 
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Only problem is that you'd need to ingest 1,000 bottles to be reliable. Look up LD50 of the active ingredient.
Are you talking about Tetrahydrozoline because it sounds like 1 bottle did the job?
 
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orca87

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Are you talking about Tetrahydrozoline because it sounds like 1 bottle did the job?
It did the job in one anecdotal and clickbaity case on an elderly guy. Nothing is said about his precondition which might have something to do with heart disease. Also, nothing is reported about medications that he might have taken regularly.

As I said, look up the LD50 for Tetra and do the math
 
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It did the job in one anecdotal and clickbaity case on an elderly guy. Nothing is said about his precondition which might have something to do with heart disease. Also, nothing is reported about medications that he might have taken regularly.

As I said, look up the LD50 for Tetra and do the math
Same with any poison it's all a bit of luck I guess but still it worked for more than one and recently too so worthy of consideration. The lady that looks to have died from ingesting the Visine was young and sounded healthy, this may say something.
 
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orca87

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Same with any poison it's all a bit of luck I guess but still it worked for more than one and recently too so worthy of consideration.
Yes, any poison can be deadly in very small doses depending on circumstances. However, that's not reliable. These are accidents.

On top of that, even if you manage to ingest the needed quantities, it seems far from peaceful unless you want "drowsiness and mild coma often alternate[d] with periods of thrashing and hyperactivity"

 
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