Method Experiences with autogenic training

[Mircea]

I've ran into mentions about Autogenic Training a couple of times. It's a practice similar to meditation for controlling one's own body: You lay or sit down, close your eyes and breathe slowly to relax, then speak affirmations while visualizing to influence unconscious processes in the body... for example making your limbs feel heavy and warm. This is generally used as a relaxation technique or to improve health.

Autogenic training - Wikipedia

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I'm asking about it as a method because in at least one recent case with possibly another I heard of years ago, people spoke of using it to will their bodies to shut down. Based on someone's story that I listened to yesterday, I understand a few practitioners who wanted to leave this world actually got close. For this purpose the goal is to stop the heart and breathing: It's said that indigenous people who felt their time is up would go somewhere in the forest and use this to peacefully pass away.

Please share here anything related to the use of this practice. Has anyone here tried it and had any success in slowing down their heart? Do you know of any articles or videos from those who did? I'm particularly interested if there are any exercises with steps available, maybe from indigenous culture or other sources: The ones I found describe using autogenics to cause sensations in limbs or slightly slow down the breath, but nothing about commending the body to shut down.

 

[secretghost]

bumping this, very interested. It's not a direct link, but I spent a lot of time learning meditation practices of different kinds and researching different types of "ego hacking" stuff via the subreddits relating to Astral projection. Some of the stuff is whacky but others is pretty cool

 

[Eudaimonic]

i don't see how this would cause your body to shut down completely

 

[Mircea]

i don't see how this would cause your body to shut down completely

In the case(s) I remember hearing of, people who were determined claim to have managed to stop their hearts through suggestion alone. I'm not sure if both (?) cases I saw were from NDE videos, at least the one that reminded me last night was. If the claims are correct, someone who practices enough and is determined to go through may succeed.

Only similar case I'm reminded by is something very old, I believe over 20 years back. It's about a magician who wanted to show everyone live on TV how he can stop his heart, which he did because he died live doing it. It's a very vague memory though, there should be articles or footage from the late 90's / early 00's out there unless this is a false memory due to my brain misunderstanding another incident.

 

[Eudaimonic]

In the case(s) I remember hearing of, people who were determined claim to have managed to stop their hearts through suggestion alone. I'm not sure if both (?) cases I saw were from NDE videos, at least the one that reminded me last night was. If the claims are correct, someone who practices enough and is determined to go through may succeed.

Only similar case I'm reminded by is something very old, I believe over 20 years back. It's about a magician who wanted to show everyone live on TV how he can stop his heart, which he did because he died live doing it. It's a very vague memory though, there should be articles or footage from the late 90's / early 00's out there unless this is a false memory due to my brain misunderstanding another incident.

i'm interested in this breed of psychogenic death as well, but i feel as though it's too good to be true