Discussion Exit does not support SaSu

[Jadzia]

This is from an email from the Exit email I received today:

May 4, 2023

Exit Does Not Support 'Sanctioned Suicide' Site[

This Blog Entry is a FACT CHECK to ensure discussion is based on the truth and not what some would like to believe is the truth.

There are no alternative facts in this regard.

To make it clear, Exit International has NO relationship to the Sanctioned Suicide online forums (despite what some may allege).

Exit does not and never has supported these forums.

Indeed, Exit has reported these forums over the years – when possible to hosting companies – for breach of copyright.

Sanctioned Suicide are well versed in playing cat and mouse in ensuring their site remains live.

Exit has also, in the past, written to the media (eg.BBC) to encourage them to focus on Sanctioned Suicide and use the power of the media to have them taken down, permanently. We have issued more take-down notices that we can count.

Exit continues to work hard to ensure that anyone who is in the Sanctioned Suicide forums does not also have access to the Peaceful Pill eHandbook, even if they are over 50 years.

This is why our high-security, photo ID video authentication and the mandate that one must be over the age of 50 years was instigated prior to the sale of every Peaceful Pill eHandbook.

In terms of copyright, Exit is always aggrieved when the copyright of the authors of the Peaceful Pill eHandbook is breached on any site or any public forum. This is theft.

Exit is especially annoyed when past editions of the book have found their way to the Sanctioned Suicide forums given that its members include young people.

Exit watches the Sanctioned Suicide forums daily.

Exit removes rights of access to the Peaceful Pill eHandbook as soon as we become aware that a person may be posting information from the book. Indeed, posting or sharing the contents of the eHandbook with a third party – online or offline – is a breach of our terms of sale and justification for a life ban on re-subscribing.

In regard to Canadian Kenneth Law, Exit has no association or acquaintance with him. Law is not and never has been a subscriber to the Peaceful Pill eHandbook.

It is a travesty that young people are being needlessly caught up in older people's legitimate and rightful access to end of life information.

Exit stands by our belief that older people (over 50 years) and those who are seriously ill have a basic right to the best end of life information.

A peaceful death is every (elderly and seriously ill) person's right

 

[altoids]

Go figure, if you're not a paying member of their special club then they hate your guts. What a close-minded way to look at the world.

 

[Jadzia]

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Go figure, if you're not a paying member of their special club then they hate your guts. What a close-minded way to look at the world.

Thats not the case. The email says they will ban you from Exit if you are a member SaSu.

I used to be a member of the online Peaceful Pill book and they cancelled my account and didn't explain why and no refund given. I wonder if its because they found out I'm a member here.

 

[Darkover]

euthanasia should be legalised worldwide for anyone who wants it thats what freedom is free to choose

 

[depressedlover]

This is just PR,It's too late,we already have the key knowledge needed.They should stop pretending just to cover their own image.

 

[SexyIncél]

Sanctioned Suicide are well versed in playing cat and mouse in ensuring their site remains live.

Anyone says "cat and mouse", I think Freddy Krueger vs human

In terms of copyright, Exit is always aggrieved when the copyright of the authors of the Peaceful Pill eHandbook is breached on any site or any public forum. This is theft.

Exit is especially annoyed when past editions of the book have found their way to the Sanctioned Suicide forums given that its members include young people.

Exit's PR dept portrays it as an aggrieved and annoyed guy over 50, who tells kids to get off his lawn. Doesn't that embarrass its cooler members?

Exit watches the Sanctioned Suicide forums daily.

Haha probably means some guy hanging out on the games subforum. Who halfheartedly advocates raising the minimum age to 50

 

[leloyon]

Well fuck you too boomers, everyone should have the right to die if they wish, not just for your special reasons and if they pay you. Exit particularly annoys me because I feel like a lot of people see them as the face of the "right to die movement". Yet they are so selective with who has that right when it should be an unconditional right. They have managed to accept that some people have the right to die, yet that "some people" group is so small. They are so close, yet so far.

 

[The Unpenetrated]

Exit only wants to help rich old guys with the emphasis on rich. Philip Nitschke is one hell of a capitalist prick who gave people black Friday discounts for suicide kits because profits stand far above human lives.

 

[ge0rge]

Exit only wants to help rich old guys with the emphasis on rich. Philip Nitschke is one hell of a capitalist prick who gave people black Friday discounts for suicide kits because profits stand far above human lives.

and Kenneth Law wanted to help everyone who had the money for his exorbitant SN prices. I'm not defending Nitschke, but I find it hilarious that some people sanctify Kenneth and demonize Philip when fundamentally they're the same. they don't care about people who lead miserable lives, they care about lining their pockets, but one is a bit looser than the other :p

 

[The Unpenetrated]

and Kenneth Law wanted to help everyone who had the money for his exorbitant SN prices. I'm not defending Nitschke, but I find it hilarious that some people sanctify Kenneth and demonize Philip when fundamentally they're the same. they don't care about people who lead miserable lives, they care about lining their pockets, but one is a bit looser than the other :p

The wonderful system we live under greatly incentivize this kind of behavior (profit above all else).

 

[PoisonousPotato]

i quite don't understand why when talking about sasu people think that it's a site for youngsters who have no valid reason to die. i've seen people of all ages, with a variety of reasons to ctb.
fck, i am ill and handicapped for life, and i want to die for 10 years+, should i be 60 yo to have their empathy?

 

[FuneralCry]

It's just insensitive anti-choice garbage, nobody is obligated to suffer in this world, suicide is a basic human right as without that then existence is slavery and imprisonment. But that was probably written so Exit doesn't get taken down, because exit is a business after all.

 

[Linda]

This is from an email from the Exit email I received today:

May 4, 2023

Exit Does Not Support 'Sanctioned Suicide' Site[

This Blog Entry is a FACT CHECK to ensure discussion is based on the truth and not what some would like to believe is the truth.

There are no alternative facts in this regard.

To make it clear, Exit International has NO relationship to the Sanctioned Suicide online forums (despite what some may allege).

Exit does not and never has supported these forums.

Indeed, Exit has reported these forums over the years – when possible to hosting companies – for breach of copyright.

Sanctioned Suicide are well versed in playing cat and mouse in ensuring their site remains live.

Exit has also, in the past, written to the media (eg.BBC) to encourage them to focus on Sanctioned Suicide and use the power of the media to have them taken down, permanently. We have issued more take-down notices that we can count.

Exit continues to work hard to ensure that anyone who is in the Sanctioned Suicide forums does not also have access to the Peaceful Pill eHandbook, even if they are over 50 years.

This is why our high-security, photo ID video authentication and the mandate that one must be over the age of 50 years was instigated prior to the sale of every Peaceful Pill eHandbook.

In terms of copyright, Exit is always aggrieved when the copyright of the authors of the Peaceful Pill eHandbook is breached on any site or any public forum. This is theft.

Exit is especially annoyed when past editions of the book have found their way to the Sanctioned Suicide forums given that its members include young people.

Exit watches the Sanctioned Suicide forums daily.

Exit removes rights of access to the Peaceful Pill eHandbook as soon as we become aware that a person may be posting information from the book. Indeed, posting or sharing the contents of the eHandbook with a third party – online or offline – is a breach of our terms of sale and justification for a life ban on re-subscribing.

In regard to Canadian Kenneth Law, Exit has no association or acquaintance with him. Law is not and never has been a subscriber to the Peaceful Pill eHandbook.

It is a travesty that young people are being needlessly caught up in older people's legitimate and rightful access to end of life information.

Exit stands by our belief that older people (over 50 years) and those who are seriously ill have a basic right to the best end of life information.

A peaceful death is every (elderly and seriously ill) person's right

Exit is trying to do a very different job than this site, and it's a job that needs doing. They have obviously concluded that it is politically expedient for them to distance themselves from SS (and they are probably correct). However, I think they should just point out that they have no connection with SS, and leave it at that. It is not necessary to denigrate this site,, nor is it helpful. Exit has nothing to offer most of the users of this site, they don't even try to help them, and I think it is entirely wrong of Exit to criticize those who are trying to help the kind of people who do visit SS. In attacking, or attempting to undermine SS they are trying to impose their views concerning suicide on others, many of whom do not share those views. Imposing your views on others is just plain evil.. If anyone from Exit is reading this, may I suggest you stick to what you are good at, and don't interfere with those who are doing something else entirely.

 

[Secrets1]

What made 50 such a responsible arbitrary cutoff age to decide to end one's life? Are 49 or 40 year olds less deserving or aware of the situation? Do the people who use Exit at 50 experience less suffering worthy of suicide consideration with a debilitating illness prior to that age?

To claim such a moral high ground while profiting from the situation, and attempting to intellectually gatekeep on the grounds of profit speaks volumes. This is horseshit CYA PR. They aren't arbiters of suicide policy or individual rights. The hypocrisy on display is impressive. Shame on exit international. I'm close to 50, you'll never get my fees. I'll always have access to the information you try to keep away from part of your own community. Thank you SS!!!!!

 

[SilentSadness]

I don't think Exit cares about doing the right thing. They are probably just looking to make money, judging from that response. It's like they view peaceful death as a privilege rather than a human right.

 

[TAW122]

That is a shame indeed, and I wished it wasn't so, but alas, that is the reality that we live in. I think that the arbitrary age cut off is too step. Regarding age, I do believe that if anyone is at or above the legal age of the majority (18 in most places, especially the US), then one should have the right to die. Of course with people under 18, it gets grey but in dire circumstances, they should have the right to die as well.

 

[Georg]

Exit, this is for you:

 

[jonghyun]

none of us chose to be born. isnt the right to take your life one of the few true human rights we have left? I get that they're trying to cover their asses but this is so extreme. Everyone should have the right to choose when/how they go...

 

[Superdeterminist]

Fuck Exit, then. Good to know.

 

[OceanBlue]

Sanctioned Suicide are well versed in playing cat and mouse in ensuring their site remains live.

It's a compliment to those who run it, sorry you can't keep up boomers.

Indeed, Exit has reported these forums over the years – when possible to hosting companies – for breach of copyright.

Exit has also, in the past, written to the media (eg.BBC) to encourage them to focus on Sanctioned Suicide and use the power of the media to have them taken down, permanently. We have issued more take-down notices that we can count.

Well, that's not nice. You could just not throw the whole community under to receive more fees.

It is a travesty that young people are being needlessly caught up in older people's legitimate and rightful access to end of life information.

It's just ageism both ways. Denying the right to choose for younger people and suggesting that older people are more expendable. I've seen the latter group worry about this perception, that the society will start pushing them into suicide as they lose value with age.

The tone is so pissed, where's the compassion? We should be on the same side.

A peaceful death is every (elderly and seriously ill) person's right!

The right to die is a basic human right. This is just ageism and ableism.

 

[Secrets1]

These crusty boomers really know how to alienate a future customer base. I think this should be pinned to the top. Their statement is inflammatory enough to warrant it.

 

[yive]

fuck you exit , the right to die peacefully is the right of each of us. another reason to make sure once again that this pro-enslavement society don't care at all about our suffering

 

[PurpleParadigm]

Remember that clown on YouTube who claimed this is Exit's affiliate site?

 

[Das Nichts]

Don't take it personal, they have created a perfect frame for their operation. What are they supposed to say ? "We are down with sasu and kn because they do what don't dare"

Just not how the world works.

 

[Dot]

This is from an email from the Exit email I received today:

May 4, 2023

Exit Does Not Support 'Sanctioned Suicide' Site[

This Blog Entry is a FACT CHECK to ensure discussion is based on the truth and not what some would like to believe is the truth.

There are no alternative facts in this regard.

To make it clear, Exit International has NO relationship to the Sanctioned Suicide online forums (despite what some may allege).

Exit does not and never has supported these forums.

Indeed, Exit has reported these forums over the years – when possible to hosting companies – for breach of copyright.

Sanctioned Suicide are well versed in playing cat and mouse in ensuring their site remains live.

Exit has also, in the past, written to the media (eg.BBC) to encourage them to focus on Sanctioned Suicide and use the power of the media to have them taken down, permanently. We have issued more take-down notices that we can count.

Exit continues to work hard to ensure that anyone who is in the Sanctioned Suicide forums does not also have access to the Peaceful Pill eHandbook, even if they are over 50 years.

This is why our high-security, photo ID video authentication and the mandate that one must be over the age of 50 years was instigated prior to the sale of every Peaceful Pill eHandbook.

In terms of copyright, Exit is always aggrieved when the copyright of the authors of the Peaceful Pill eHandbook is breached on any site or any public forum. This is theft.

Exit is especially annoyed when past editions of the book have found their way to the Sanctioned Suicide forums given that its members include young people.

Exit watches the Sanctioned Suicide forums daily.

Exit removes rights of access to the Peaceful Pill eHandbook as soon as we become aware that a person may be posting information from the book. Indeed, posting or sharing the contents of the eHandbook with a third party – online or offline – is a breach of our terms of sale and justification for a life ban on re-subscribing.

In regard to Canadian Kenneth Law, Exit has no association or acquaintance with him. Law is not and never has been a subscriber to the Peaceful Pill eHandbook.

It is a travesty that young people are being needlessly caught up in older people's legitimate and rightful access to end of life information.

Exit stands by our belief that older people (over 50 years) and those who are seriously ill have a basic right to the best end of life information.

A peaceful death is every (elderly and seriously ill) person's right

Gr8 cn sme1 tll Tantcrul pls

 

[MelancholyMagic]

A peaceful death is every (elderly and seriously ill) person's right

Seems like an arbitrary distinction to me. Besides, a 50-year-old is often physically healthy. It's not like they're a 95-year-old bag of skin, bones, and partial organ failure.
If the 50-year-old cutoff is to ensure only those who have "experienced life" can decide to die, then this too seems arbitrary. A 40-year-old could have stronger convictions and much more life experience than 50, but the former would be denied Exit's assistance. Perhaps it would be better to have a test to determine life experience rather than just base it off age. But that could be a logistical nightmare, and I doubt Exit much cares.

 

[Archness]

Seems like an arbitrary distinction to me. Besides, a 50-year-old is often physically healthy. It's not like they're a 95-year-old bag of skin, bones, and partial organ failure.
If the 50-year-old cutoff is to ensure only those who have "experienced life" can decide to die, then this too seems arbitrary. A 40-year-old could have stronger convictions and much more life experience than 50, but the former would be denied Exit's assistance. Perhaps it would be better to have a test to determine life experience rather than just base it off age. But that could be a logistical nightmare, and I doubt Exit much cares.

Having to "Experience Life" to 50 before being allowed to ctb fundamentally makes no sense. Why should I experience decades of a life I know won't be worth living? Just to end it on my terms? Fucking retarded, but is definitely a move to have a "moral high ground" and still operate as a business.

 

[Zetsubou]

Remember that clown on YouTube who claimed this is Exit's affiliate site?

I was just thinking that Tantacrul's video and the recent KL investigation is what lead to Exit to write this PR email. I can't exactly blame them, but I wish it wasn't so derogatorily written towards the members of this site.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Exit is boomer tier. Boomers were raised on lead and cadmium. Not the brightest generation.

 

[unnormal9]

I'm not surprised. Not that it matters. This site is fine.

Exit is especially annoyed when past editions of the book have found their way to the Sanctioned Suicide forums given that its members include young people.

O, there it goes again.

Exit watches the Sanctioned Suicide forums daily.

Interesting, yet you don't seem to take your own advice and Exit.

and Kenneth Law wanted to help everyone who had the money for his exorbitant SN prices. I'm not defending Nitschke, but I find it hilarious that some people sanctify Kenneth and demonize Philip when fundamentally they're the same. they don't care about people who lead miserable lives, they care about lining their pockets, but one is a bit looser than the other :p

Fucking true.