Discussion Exciting positive things about death

[Obliviate]

Can we please make a thread about all the exciting and positive things about death? I am leaving soon and I do not want to spend my last couple of weeks crying, in pain and reliving the trauma and going on and on about how my life should have been and blah blah. I wanna leave happy and excited for the afterlife. I'm tired of wasting my time crying and sad about how awful my life was and is when I need to atleast try to make the last moments positive. I want to spend my last weeks with my cats and I am so grateful I have the privilege to do so. List things that you'll be happy about after death, make it funny, laugh, have a good time

I'll start:

God this earth is so ghetto idk how people live in this mess. Technically, if I kill myself ALL the problems will be gone. So why the fuck not? Don't have to worry about hate crime, rape, racism, torture, homelessness, horrible humans, starvation, war, abuse, autism, adhd, anxiety, depression, physical health, suffering ETC Everything wrong with this world! We'll be FREE!

I believe in heaven/after life: I am so excited to be at peace, create my heaven SURROUNDED by animals in a huge mansion where I never have to worry about money, food, a degrading job, abuse anymore. Watching TV and Movies, playing with my kitten that's waiting for me up there. Eating all my favorite foods, relaxing and chilling. Meeting my perfect soulmate who was created for me. Living happily ever after. Watching the new Avatar The Last Airbender series/movies that will be coming out soon. Drinking, partying etc.

Looking after/protecting my cats who will still be living, waiting for them to come up when it's their time. Becoming a spirit guide where I can look after others in this world who are struggling.

You ever wonder if souls from heaven look at us and are like damn I wonder why most of them are still down there voluntarily going through struggles? While their up their having everything they've ever wanted and more.

I'm just excited to depart from this cruel world. Suicide is more common than we think and so is death. It's the circle of life billions die everyday and no one bats an eye. We really are nothing in this flying rock. Its not real.

*POSITIVE RESPECTFUL COMMENTS ONLY PLEASE, I don't want any depressing sad comments about "But what if there is no after life and we just cease to exist and are nothing?" "What if we get reincarnated into a shittier life?" "What if it's worse after we die?"* If that is your belief/theory then keep it to yourself, this post is about heaven/afterlife that I fully believe in.

*DISCLAIMER*: I am not religious, infact I'm angry at god for creating this crap in the first place and giving us free will when god knew damn well that humans would use it for evil. But I believe that people who have done good in life shall be rewarded in the afterlife

Even if there is no after life its better than being alive.

 

[Darkover]

A delusion is a belief that is clearly false and that indicates an abnormality in the affected person's content of thought. The false belief is not accounted for by the person's cultural or religious background or his or her level of intelligence. The key feature of a delusion is the degree to which the person is convinced that the belief is true. A person with a delusion will hold firmly to the belief regardless of evidence to the contrary. Delusions can be difficult to distinguish from overvalued ideas, which are unreasonable ideas that a person holds, but the affected person has at least some level of doubt as to its truthfulness. A person with a delusion is absolutely convinced that the delusion is real. Delusions are a symptom of either a medical, neurological, or mental disorder. Delusions may be present in any of the following mental disorders: (1) Psychotic disorders, or disorders in which the affected person has a diminished or distorted sense of reality and cannot distinguish the real from the unreal, including schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, delusional disorder, schizophreniform disorder, shared psychotic disorder, brief psychotic disorder, and substance-induced psychotic disorder, (2) Bipolar disorder, (3) Major depressive disorder with psychotic features (4) Delirium, and (5) Dementia.

if heaven really exist why aren't we already there why would we all be living out our misery here in this godforsaken hellhole

 

[Cryptonite]

Thank you for this post.

 

[Obliviate]

A delusion is a belief that is clearly false and that indicates an abnormality in the affected person's content of thought. The false belief is not accounted for by the person's cultural or religious background or his or her level of intelligence. The key feature of a delusion is the degree to which the person is convinced that the belief is true. A person with a delusion will hold firmly to the belief regardless of evidence to the contrary. Delusions can be difficult to distinguish from overvalued ideas, which are unreasonable ideas that a person holds, but the affected person has at least some level of doubt as to its truthfulness. A person with a delusion is absolutely convinced that the delusion is real. Delusions are a symptom of either a medical, neurological, or mental disorder. Delusions may be present in any of the following mental disorders: (1) Psychotic disorders, or disorders in which the affected person has a diminished or distorted sense of reality and cannot distinguish the real from the unreal, including schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, delusional disorder, schizophreniform disorder, shared psychotic disorder, brief psychotic disorder, and substance-induced psychotic disorder, (2) Bipolar disorder, (3) Major depressive disorder with psychotic features (4) Delirium, and (5) Dementia.

if heaven really exist why aren't we already there why would we all be living out our misery here in this godforsaken hellhole

You literally just missed the ENTIRE POINT of this post. I said to keep your theories/beliefs to yourself. No one knows why we are here to live in misery/why we are born etc. I just know I am done and ready to leave. There has been much proof about the spiritual realm and things that cannot be explained, go watch some NDE's. If you wanna be 100% mundane and human and stick to only science, do you. BTW i'm a scientist and this is coming from me. You literally putting down the entire definition of delusion and insinuating that I am delusional or have schizophrenia, psychotic features etc just because I believe in heaven is insulting.

I'm literally a scientist and I cannot deny the overwhelming evidence of the afterlife from Ndes, psychics, mediums, spirits etc. I'm not even religious, infact I'm angry at god for creating this crap in the first place and giving us free will when god knew damn well that humans would use it for evil.

I'm not insulting your reasoning for non existence so don't insult my theory when most of the world is partaking in some type of religion.

 

[Pluto]

Your best bet would be to learn from people who have actually been there.

 

[FuneralCry]

I don't share the same beliefs about what there is after we exit this world, but I hope that you find what you wish for.
I just see it as being a positive thing the fact that I will be unable to have awareness of this hellish world. There are no disadvantages to being gone from this world after all, but there are an unlimited amount of things wrong with existing. Life itself is the true problem and cause of all suffering and torment after all, and I view it as being a beautiful and admirable thing to refuse to delay our inevitable fate. To me perfection could only ever lie in being permanently free from this world.

 

[Obliviate]

I don't share the same beliefs about what there is after we exit this world, but I hope that you find what you wish for.
I just see it as being a positive thing the fact that I will be unable to have awareness of this hellish world. There are no disadvantages to being gone from this world after all, but there are an unlimited amount of things wrong with existing. Life itself is the true problem and cause of all suffering and torment after all, and I view it as being a beautiful and admirable thing to refuse to delay our inevitable fate. To me perfection could only ever lie in being permanently free from this world.

See I appreciate the respect from this post comparing to the first one. You don't believe in the same afterlife theory as me but we both can agree that this world is a hell hole and we'll be free from it. Thank you for atleast showing some respect unlike the first person. I wish you peace as well.

 

[sincerelysad]

Your best bet would be to learn from people who have actually been there.

this is so comforting. wow, thank you.
i think your version of the afterlife sounds really perfect. i don't know what lies after this. i'm scared, but i know it won't be as bad as i feel all the time.

 

[Obliviate]

this is so comforting. wow, thank you.
i think your version of the afterlife sounds really perfect. i don't know what lies after this. i'm scared, but i know it won't be as bad as i feel all the time.

I'm literally TERRIFED of what's next but it has to be better than the hell hole we're in now.

 

[Darkover]

if your so convinced you'll be heaven when die with your cats with a big mansion why haven't you left already because you don't know for certain it's just a comforting thought that you would go to heaven with your cats. your part of the reason this world is so bad naive blinded by faith there is only birth and death into this universe there's no escaping hell

 

[WorthlessTrash]

No longer suffering. It's really the only positive one needs.

 

[liana]

A spiritual perspective I trust claims that as you unite with your higher self (die), you get everything you ever wanted in life.

(In life, as you manifest desires, your spirit immediately realizes them. But until you realize them in the physical world, the gap between you and your higher self - where you are and where you desire to be - creates a negative feeling state in your physical life.)

 

[Obliviate]

if your so convinced you'll be heaven when die with your cats with a big mansion why haven't you left already because you don't know for certain it's just a comforting thought that you would go to heaven with your cats. your part of the reason this world is so bad naive blinded by faith there is only birth and death into this universe there's no escaping hell

I'm not convinced, no one knows for sure LIKE I SAID IT IS MY BELIEF and you are continuing to insult me. YOU are the one attacking people for their beliefs. I'm still here because I had hope and just like everyone that hope is dying which is why I am making plans to depart. LIKE I FUCKING SAID, believe whatever the fuck you want to IDC. You saying I'm the reason this world is bad is disgusting. Bye.

Even if there is no after life its better than being alive.

 

[sincerelysad]

A spiritual perspective I trust claims that as you unite with your higher self (die), you get everything you ever wanted in life.

(In life, as you manifest desires, your spirit immediately realizes them. But until you realize them in the physical world, the gap between you and your higher self - where you are and where you desire to be - creates a negative feeling state in your physical life.)

i love this so much. this is what i believe too i think.

 

[tchaik18401893]

im not sure if this is exactly positive, but leaving this world. leaving all the bad people. But i feel like i will miss the good things. I will miss the moon. I will miss the good people. I will miss music and the ability to feel emotions. The things that have happened to me might outweigh the good though. I am not entirely sure. I just know that if i died, i would feel less isolated now.

 

[Rainy_days]

Let us reflect in another way, and we shall see that there is great reason to hope that death is a good, for one of two things: - either death is a state of nothingness and utter unconsciousness, or, as men say, there is a change and migration of the soul from this world to another. Now if you suppose that there is no consciousness, but a sleep like the sleep of him who is undisturbed even by the sight of dreams, death will be an unspeakable gain. For if a person were to select the night in which his sleep was undisturbed even by dreams, and were to compare with this the other days and nights of his life, and then were to tell us how many days and nights he had passed in the course of his life better and more pleasantly than this one, I think that any man, I will not say a private man, but even the great king, will not find many such days or nights, when compared with the others. Now if death is like this, I say that to die is gain; for eternity is then only a single night. But if death is the journey to another place, and there, as men say, all the dead are, what good, O my friends and judges, can be greater than this? If indeed when the pilgrim arrives in the world below, he is delivered from the professors of justice in this world, and finds the true judges who are said to give judgment there, Minos and Rhadamanthus and Aeacus and Triptolemus, and other sons of God who were righteous in their own life, that pilgrimage will be worth making. What would not a man give if he might converse with Orpheus and Musaeus and Hesiod and Homer? Nay, if this be true, let me die again and again. I, too, shall have a wonderful interest in a place where I can converse with Palamedes, and Ajax the son of Telamon, and other heroes of old, who have suffered death through an unjust judgment; and there will be no small pleasure, as I think, in comparing my own sufferings with theirs. Above all, I shall be able to continue my search into true and false knowledge; as in this world, so also in that; I shall find out who is wise, and who pretends to be wise, and is not. What would not a man give, O judges, to be able to examine the leader of the great Trojan expedition; or Odysseus or Sisyphus, or numberless others, men and women too! What infinite delight would there be in conversing with them and asking them questions! For in that world they do not put a man to death for this; certainly not. For besides being happier in that world than in this, they will be immortal, if what is said is true.

Wherefore, O judges, be of good cheer about death, and know this of a truth - that no evil can happen to a good man, either in life or after death. He and his are not neglected by the gods; nor has my own approaching end happened by mere chance. But I see clearly that to die and be released was better for me; and therefore the oracle gave no sign. For which reason also, I am not angry with my accusers, or my condemners; they have done me no harm, although neither of them meant to do me any good; and for this I may gently blame them

From Plato's "Apology"

 

[Pluto]

I'm literally TERRIFED of what's next but it has to be better than the hell hole we're in now.

I can assure you that there is nothing to fear. The only negative experiences tend to involve people whose suicides are motivated by harming others. Death is just a doorway, and your own state determines what's on the other side.

The nature of the afterlife is very different to here. There is no such thing as food (sorry!) although reunions, including pets, are common and referred to as a homecoming. Ironically, one of the most common comments made by those who have experienced the other side is that it is completely indescribable. Human language was not designed to describe anything otherworldly, try as it might. But it definitely a blissful place, better than anything in the physical world could ever be, times a thousand.

The modern human world is based around survival and sometimes greed. With present-day humans being at a very primitive stage of evolution, (war, violence, etc.) this gives rise to a civilisation based around ignorance and fear. We are competing with each other for energy without being aware of having direct access to the cosmic source.

The bigger picture of life (be it here or the afterlife) is based around love. When you experience the great light that everyone talks about, it will blow away any other desires you may have had. Nobody wants to leave it. Fortunately, this is our true home and not the physical world.

This is all well and good, of course, but leads naturally to the question of finding ourselves in the suffering-laden physical world in the first place. This is probably the ultimate spiritual question, worsened by the common NDE insight that people actually chose the initial circumstances of their lifetime before coming here. This question can be approached a few ways.

1) Your true nature is perfect love, but in 'heaven' there is nothing else. The ultimate sacredness is just routine. There is no question of healing or learning or growth, for example, because everything is already perfect. Hence, the creation of a virtual world (yes, the physical world is not actually real) of duality: love/hate, cruelty/kindness, etc. enables choice. It also provides a point of reference, next to which our divine true nature is seen for its magnificence.

2) There is said to be a cycle of evolution over many lifetimes, which begins with being in a primitive state of harming others, and eventually ends in an unshakable sublime state. Life certainly knows how to test us; these tests can lead to growth towards a more advanced spiritual state or can cause us to regress for a time.

3) Because the dysfunction of our human society is caused by metaphorical cannibalism and ignorance of true-nature/love, our highest purpose is bringing heaven to Earth. Being in an advanced spiritual state ("enlightened") means peace and joy regardless of your circumstances. Such a one subliminally benefits all of creation. Unfortunately, achieving this state tends to take a lot of work for most people, since we are so deeply conditioned by humanity. But at least it's a greater ambition than mere material success, which will never truly satisfy nor does it last very long.

In summary, everybody is definitely going to be OK and all is well in the bigger picture. The only snag is that it is wise to make an informed decision in case you can still make some more use of your current body to better purify your inner state, but the ultimate cosmic outcome is assured, and happily it is good news. Any other questions, please ask.

 

[DreamEnd]

I can assure you that there is nothing to fear. The only negative experiences tend to involve people whose suicides are motivated by harming others. Death is just a doorway, and your own state determines what's on the other side.

The nature of the afterlife is very different to here. There is no such thing as food (sorry!) although reunions, including pets, are common and referred to as a homecoming. Ironically, one of the most common comments made by those who have experienced the other side is that it is completely indescribable. Human language was not designed to describe anything otherworldly, try as it might. But it definitely a blissful place, better than anything in the physical world could ever be, times a thousand.

The modern human world is based around survival and sometimes greed. With present-day humans being at a very primitive stage of evolution, (war, violence, etc.) this gives rise to a civilisation based around ignorance and fear. We are competing with each other for energy without being aware of having direct access to the cosmic source.

The bigger picture of life (be it here or the afterlife) is based around love. When you experience the great light that everyone talks about, it will blow away any other desires you may have had. Nobody wants to leave it. Fortunately, this is our true home and not the physical world.

This is all well and good, of course, but leads naturally to the question of finding ourselves in the suffering-laden physical world in the first place. This is probably the ultimate spiritual question, worsened by the common NDE insight that people actually chose the initial circumstances of their lifetime before coming here. This question can be approached a few ways.

1) Your true nature is perfect love, but in 'heaven' there is nothing else. The ultimate sacredness is just routine. There is no question of healing or learning or growth, for example, because everything is already perfect. Hence, the creation of a virtual world (yes, the physical world is not actually real) of duality: love/hate, cruelty/kindness, etc. enables choice. It also provides a point of reference, next to which our divine true nature is seen for its magnificence.

2) There is said to be a cycle of evolution over many lifetimes, which begins with being in a primitive state of harming others, and eventually ends in an unshakable sublime state. Life certainly knows how to test us; these tests can lead to growth towards a more advanced spiritual state or can cause us to regress for a time.

3) Because the dysfunction of our human society is caused by metaphorical cannibalism and ignorance of true-nature/love, our highest purpose is bringing heaven to Earth. Being in an advanced spiritual state ("enlightened") means peace and joy regardless of your circumstances. Such a one subliminally benefits all of creation. Unfortunately, achieving this state tends to take a lot of work for most people, since we are so deeply conditioned by humanity. But at least it's a greater ambition than mere material success, which will never truly satisfy nor does it last very long.

In summary, everybody is definitely going to be OK and all is well in the bigger picture. The only snag is that it is wise to make an informed decision in case you can still make some more use of your current body to better purify your inner state, but the ultimate cosmic outcome is assured, and happily it is good news. Any other questions, please ask.

I pmed you

 

[Obliviate]

I can assure you that there is nothing to fear. The only negative experiences tend to involve people whose suicides are motivated by harming others. Death is just a doorway, and your own state determines what's on the other side.

The nature of the afterlife is very different to here. There is no such thing as food (sorry!) although reunions, including pets, are common and referred to as a homecoming. Ironically, one of the most common comments made by those who have experienced the other side is that it is completely indescribable. Human language was not designed to describe anything otherworldly, try as it might. But it definitely a blissful place, better than anything in the physical world could ever be, times a thousand.

The modern human world is based around survival and sometimes greed. With present-day humans being at a very primitive stage of evolution, (war, violence, etc.) this gives rise to a civilisation based around ignorance and fear. We are competing with each other for energy without being aware of having direct access to the cosmic source.

The bigger picture of life (be it here or the afterlife) is based around love. When you experience the great light that everyone talks about, it will blow away any other desires you may have had. Nobody wants to leave it. Fortunately, this is our true home and not the physical world.

This is all well and good, of course, but leads naturally to the question of finding ourselves in the suffering-laden physical world in the first place. This is probably the ultimate spiritual question, worsened by the common NDE insight that people actually chose the initial circumstances of their lifetime before coming here. This question can be approached a few ways.

1) Your true nature is perfect love, but in 'heaven' there is nothing else. The ultimate sacredness is just routine. There is no question of healing or learning or growth, for example, because everything is already perfect. Hence, the creation of a virtual world (yes, the physical world is not actually real) of duality: love/hate, cruelty/kindness, etc. enables choice. It also provides a point of reference, next to which our divine true nature is seen for its magnificence.

2) There is said to be a cycle of evolution over many lifetimes, which begins with being in a primitive state of harming others, and eventually ends in an unshakable sublime state. Life certainly knows how to test us; these tests can lead to growth towards a more advanced spiritual state or can cause us to regress for a time.

3) Because the dysfunction of our human society is caused by metaphorical cannibalism and ignorance of true-nature/love, our highest purpose is bringing heaven to Earth. Being in an advanced spiritual state ("enlightened") means peace and joy regardless of your circumstances. Such a one subliminally benefits all of creation. Unfortunately, achieving this state tends to take a lot of work for most people, since we are so deeply conditioned by humanity. But at least it's a greater ambition than mere material success, which will never truly satisfy nor does it last very long.

In summary, everybody is definitely going to be OK and all is well in the bigger picture. The only snag is that it is wise to make an informed decision in case you can still make some more use of your current body to better purify your inner state, but the ultimate cosmic outcome is assured, and happily it is good news. Any other questions, please ask.

I understand the nirvana point and this is what I try to say is that humans are so lost/ busy and ignorant in the mundane world they totally neglect/dismiss the spiritual world and to each their own of what they wanna believe. I personably have never seen or felt anything spiritual no matter how hard I try to reach out to my spirit guides or guardian angels, ancestors all that but From what I know so far is we get to create our own heavens and what we want in them what house, surroundings, environment etc.
Now you made a point in which I always wondered in that we choose our life before we are born. Not that I don't believe it but I keep hearing this over and over in NDEs and psychics and I look at myself like WHY the F would you choose this life?

I think alot of people want non existence to be true because their afraid they'll go to hell or have to deal with the consequences of all the evil they have done. Why else would someone commit atrocious acts in the physical world such as our world leaders/politicians? Because they either use religion as a weapon for wrong reasons or they don't believe in it at all and want the upmost power before they die

 

[Timetoleave1]

I'm literally TERRIFED of what's next but it has to be better than the hell hole we're in now.

Please do not be terrified.
What is likely to happen after the body dies depends mostly on your beliefs.
Because what you believe is true (true for you).
You can try to remain open.

 

[Obliviate]

Please do not be terrified.
What is likely to happen after the body dies depends mostly on your beliefs.
Because what you believe is true (true for you).
You can try to remain open.

Thank you. It's assholes like the first guy who put fear in people saying what he did that nothing exists and you'll be trapped in a void forever blah blah.

I just want peace and now even on here I have to deal with stupid imbeciles like him. I just want to reunite with my kitty and finally be happy

 

[Timetoleave1]

Thank you. It's assholes like the first guy who put fear in people saying what he did that nothing exists and you'll be trapped in a void forever blah blah.

I just want peace and now even on here I have to deal with stupid imbeciles like him. I just want to reunite with my kitty and finally be happy

The belief of being trapped into a void is probably true for this person.
It may happen for this person.

 

[DeadManLiving]

BTW i'm a scientist and this is coming from me. You literally putting down the entire definition of delusion and insinuating that I am delusional or have schizophrenia, psychotic features etc just because I believe in heaven is insulting.

I'm literally a scientist ...

Would you be against or barred from sharing a brief summary of your scientific academic background, specific scientific field of study? Published any scientific work in any journals?

I assume there would not anything that would prevent you from sharing what field of scientific practice you are in. Are you in academia or industry?

Maybe we know each other. Academia is a small world. I from Rutgers with a degree in Mathematics and Statistics with domain experience in particle science applied to developing extracellular vesicles for targeted drug delivery enabling permeation of the blood-brain barrier for successful transport of bioactive cargo such as trans-ISRIB and other molecules for traumatic brain injury modalities.

Interested in learning of your field of scientific inquiry. Always excited to meet new scientists.

Thank You.

 

[Obliviate]

The belief of being trapped into a void is probably true for this person.
It may happen for this person.

Well in NDE's even athiests or people who don't believe in the afterlife at all/spiritual world/believe in the void ultimately get bought into heaven.

Would you be against or barred from sharing a brief summary of your scientific academic background, specific scientific field of study? Published any scientific work in any journals?

I assume there would not anything that would prevent you from sharing what field of scientific practice you are in. Are you in academia or industry?

Maybe we know each other. Academia is a small world. I from Rutgers with a degree in Mathematics and Statistics with domain experience in particle science applied to developing extracellular vesicles for targeted drug delivery enabling permeation of the blood-brain barrier for successful transport of bioactive cargo such as trans-ISRIB and other molecules for traumatic brain injury modalities.

Interested in learning of your field of scientific inquiry. Always excited to meet new scientists.

Thank You.

That's fucking amazing congratulations! and I'm just a baby scientist only, just graduated with a bachelors from hell. My scientific journey has been on a huge downfall because of all the traumatic abuse I suffered but I'm so happy that you have been successful. I would have loved to continue to med school or PHD but alas it seems as it's not destined for me and it's my time to cross over sadly but I am so glad there are people like you that are making a difference, living my dream. I wish you peace

 

[Pluto]

I understand the nirvana point and this is what I try to say is that humans are so lost/ busy and ignorant in the mundane world they totally neglect/dismiss the spiritual world and to each their own of what they wanna believe.

Yes, that very much does happen, but it isn't a problem because not everyone is here to find nirvana in any rush. A lot of beings are still at the stage of enjoying the drama and the uncertainty. Only when they have reached a certain stage will they feel a desire to leave. That desire is a sign of spiritual maturity and you are obviously at that stage already.

I personably have never seen or felt anything spiritual no matter how hard I try to reach out to my spirit guides or guardian angels, ancestors all that but From what I know so far is we get to create our own heavens and what we want in them what house, surroundings, environment etc.

I completely understand how you feel. In this situation, guidance is very important. Can I ask exactly what sort of validation or experience you have been seeking? Are you wanting an experience of your higher self? A functional connection with guides to help with worldly matters? Are you open to trying psychedelics? Does any particular tradition or teacher appeal to you?

Everything is a spiritual experience, so the present moment is the only place to start investigating. We also have to be willing to completely surrender everything that we think we know. At some point, that even includes our very sense of who we think we are. It gets extremely uncomfortable but that's a good sign of progress being made.

And yes, I believe there is truth to what you say about the self-created heaven. One source referenced a Robin Williams movie called What Dreams May Come, which was all about this. Though be warned it didn't speak very highly of CTB and that part isn't entirely accurate.

Now you made a point in which I always wondered in that we choose our life before we are born. Not that I don't believe it but I keep hearing this over and over in NDEs and psychics and I look at myself like WHY the F would you choose this life?

A good psychic may be able to give you a past-life context for this question. There are many reasons why difficult lifetimes are chosen. It could be an act of service to others, for the growth and learning of whoever hurt you. It may be that you are a healer but first need to have direct experience of what others are going through. It's possible you may have some karma from a past lifetime to burn up.

Lifetimes like this are all about triggering growth by shattering our comfort zones. People who have their worldly needs met are making almost zero spiritual progress towards liberation; in a way, their lives are far more of a mystery than ours. But there's no need to worry about others as they have their own paths.

I think alot of people want non existence to be true because their afraid they'll go to hell or have to deal with the consequences of all the evil they have done. Why else would someone commit atrocious acts in the physical world such as our world leaders/politicians? Because they either use religion as a weapon for wrong reasons or they don't believe in it at all and want the upmost power before they die

It can be better to use the word 'ignorance' or 'insanity' rather than 'evil'. The worst atrocities are not committed by world leaders but by millions of people who cooperate with their lunacy. The whole of humanity is showcasing its primitiveness, which we've already discussed. The religious concept of hell is itself a part of the ignorance, especially the part about eternal damnation. But it is all of our fault for buying into the scam.

Anyway, back on topic. If I can give you any guidance, a bit more information about what you are aiming for would be a good starting point. It is at times an uncomfortable and even scary process, because the end result will be the death of your very sense of self. But it is worth journeying through the 'valley of death' because the hero's journey ends well. And whatever happens, I promise you you will be fine. "Fear not" is a high teaching.

 

[sincerelysad]

Yes, that very much does happen, but it isn't a problem because not everyone is here to find nirvana in any rush. A lot of beings are still at the stage of enjoying the drama and the uncertainty. Only when they have reached a certain stage will they feel a desire to leave. That desire is a sign of spiritual maturity and you are obviously at that stage already.


I completely understand how you feel. In this situation, guidance is very important. Can I ask exactly what sort of validation or experience you have been seeking? Are you wanting an experience of your higher self? A functional connection with guides to help with worldly matters? Are you open to trying psychedelics? Does any particular tradition or teacher appeal to you?

Everything is a spiritual experience, so the present moment is the only place to start investigating. We also have to be willing to completely surrender everything that we think we know. At some point, that even includes our very sense of who we think we are. It gets extremely uncomfortable but that's a good sign of progress being made.

And yes, I believe there is truth to what you say about the self-created heaven. One source referenced a Robin Williams movie called What Dreams May Come, which was all about this. Though be warned it didn't speak very highly of CTB and that part isn't entirely accurate.

A good psychic may be able to give you a past-life context for this question. There are many reasons why difficult lifetimes are chosen. It could be an act of service to others, for the growth and learning of whoever hurt you. It may be that you are a healer but first need to have direct experience of what others are going through. It's possible you may have some karma from a past lifetime to burn up.

Lifetimes like this are all about triggering growth by shattering our comfort zones. People who have their worldly needs met are making almost zero spiritual progress towards liberation; in a way, their lives are far more of a mystery than ours. But there's no need to worry about others as they have their own paths.

It can be better to use the word 'ignorance' or 'insanity' rather than 'evil'. The worst atrocities are not committed by world leaders but by millions of people who cooperate with their lunacy. The whole of humanity is showcasing its primitiveness, which we've already discussed. The religious concept of hell is itself a part of the ignorance, especially the part about eternal damnation. But it is all of our fault for buying into the scam.

Anyway, back on topic. If I can give you any guidance, a bit more information about what you are aiming for would be a good starting point. It is at times an uncomfortable and even scary process, because the end result will be the death of your very sense of self. But it is worth journeying through the 'valley of death' because the hero's journey ends well. And whatever happens, I promise you you will be fine. "Fear not" is a high teaching.

this is so utterly beautiful and comforting and awe inspiring, i bookmarked it instantly. you are so insightful, thank you so much

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

When I was younger, I liked the theory that we create our afterlife by ourselves. What we imagine will come true, I wish you it will be like that.

 

[Mr_House]

Yes, I like this theory

Sorry about the people in the comments disregarding the notice

I hope you get the afterlife you wish for, cheers

 

[Judy Garland]

Can we please make a thread about all the exciting and positive things about death? I am leaving soon and I do not want to spend my last couple of weeks crying, in pain and reliving the trauma and going on and on about how my life should have been and blah blah. I wanna leave happy and excited for the afterlife. I'm tired of wasting my time crying and sad about how awful my life was and is when I need to atleast try to make the last moments positive. I want to spend my last weeks with my cats and I am so grateful I have the privilege to do so. List things that you'll be happy about after death, make it funny, laugh, have a good time

I'll start:

God this earth is so ghetto idk how people live in this mess. Technically, if I kill myself ALL the problems will be gone. So why the fuck not? Don't have to worry about hate crime, rape, racism, torture, homelessness, horrible humans, starvation, war, abuse, autism, adhd, anxiety, depression, physical health, suffering ETC Everything wrong with this world! We'll be FREE!

I believe in heaven/after life: I am so excited to be at peace, create my heaven SURROUNDED by animals in a huge mansion where I never have to worry about money, food, a degrading job, abuse anymore. Watching TV and Movies, playing with my kitten that's waiting for me up there. Eating all my favorite foods, relaxing and chilling. Meeting my perfect soulmate who was created for me. Living happily ever after. Watching the new Avatar The Last Airbender series/movies that will be coming out soon. Drinking, partying etc.

Looking after/protecting my cats who will still be living, waiting for them to come up when it's their time. Becoming a spirit guide where I can look after others in this world who are struggling.

You ever wonder if souls from heaven look at us and are like damn I wonder why most of them are still down there voluntarily going through struggles? While their up their having everything they've ever wanted and more.

I'm just excited to depart from this cruel world. Suicide is more common than we think and so is death. It's the circle of life billions die everyday and no one bats an eye. We really are nothing in this flying rock. Its not real.

*POSITIVE COMMENTS ONLY PLEASE, I don't want any depressing sad comments about "But what if there is no after life and we just cease to exist and are nothing?" "What if we get reincarnated into a shittier life?" "What if it's worse after we die?"* If that is your belief/theory then keep it to yourself, this post is about heaven/afterlife that I fully believe in.

I'm glad you're connected with Home (Heaven) and God. We have everything waiting for us and more. We will be surrounded by Love, unconditional and complete Love from God and everyone. This place will seem like a bad nightmare and we (most of us) aren't ever going to come back. Too many humans think life is just one and done!. No rhyme or reason just one and done and that's it! Don't any of you realize that you've brought up the world from an ice age baby to the industrial young man it is today. Through your past lives, you were the, kings, queens, presidents, governors, judges, mayors, all of them. Through being them you made this world very difficult to live in. And now your spirit wants out. You all had a say regarding how this world was created and developed. And you don't remember. You forget when you incarnate. And now it's too hard, which is why you want to die. This world is the most difficult place to live. And I'm glad it's only temporary. You may ask me questions if you'd like. I can give you answers.
But back to the post at hand. Positive things for dying. The biggest positive thing is Heaven. What's waiting for us. And that includes who. I can't wait to make love and to play some games. Real games. It's where all of our ideas for movies and video games come from. Ideas come from other worlds and other places that we have. Think of your favorite video game or movie. We have the real thing in Heaven. We REALLY play the game. And this place (earth) is the most boring place we have ever created. And I'm not coming back.

 

[don't want it]

Iam really love your topics