DeutscheKartoffel

DeutscheKartoffel

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Commie supporters should go live under Russia and China authoritarian rule to see for themselves.

Having a debate with them on the internet has got to be a joke lmao

I'll be damned if the authoritarian leaderships give a damn about you. They only care about control and politics. Never gave a damn about their people.
 
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GrumpyFrog

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Commie supporters should go live under Russia and China authoritarian rule to see for themselves.

Having a debate with them on the internet has got to be a joke lmao

I'll be damned if the authoritarian leaderships give a damn about you. They only care about control and politics. Never gave a damn about their people.
This is a bit of a thread derailing, but I think a lot of people that support communism support the fictional utopic version of it as described by Karl Marx, Frederick Engels and other great thinkers, while simultaneously some of them fail to recognise that the real world authoritarian regimes that went under the socialist/communist umbrella didn't really acieve anything that would allow them to approach that utopia. So it becomes a bit of an unfair comparision between evils of real world democracies vs. ideal picture of communist society as presented by propaganda or described in theory by philosophers, which is kind of like comparing yourself in the mirror to heavily photoshopped Instagram pictures of an Influencer.
It is interesting, in the context of the democracy vs. socialism/communism debate, that you point out how similar life in China and Russia is, even though China is, declaratively, a socialist country, and Russia is, declaratively, a democracy...
 
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DeutscheKartoffel

DeutscheKartoffel

Reclaiming my human rights & liberty thru suicide.
Dec 12, 2021
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This is a bit of a thread derailing, but I think a lot of people that support communism support the fictional utopic version of it as described by Karl Marx, Frederick Engels and other great thinkers, while simultaneously some of them fail to recognise that the real world authoritarian regimes that went under the socialist/communist umbrella didn't really acieve anything that would allow them to approach that utopia. So it becomes a bit of an unfair comparision between evils of real world democracies vs. ideal picture of communist society as presented by propaganda or described in theory by philosophers, which is kind of like comparing yourself in the mirror to heavily photoshopped Instagram pictures of an Influencer.
It is interesting, in the context of the democracy vs. socialism/communism debate, that you point out how similar life in China and Russia is, even though China is, declaratively, a socialist country, and Russia is, declaratively, a democracy...

Following their unjustified invasion of Ukraine,
The cannon fodders were tricked and lied to by their senior commanders,
the relatives in Ukraine are suffering war and their family in Russia in complete denial thanks to state propaganda and lies.
Let's not forget the countless people they detained for anti–war protests in Russia.

Russia, democracy? Never.
 
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