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gorb

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This has happened to me way to many times to just be a coincidence. Everytime i try to get closer to god and pray, it just seems to make everything worse. Always the opposite of what i prayed for happens. lately i had been feeling somewhat okay. And i very recently started straightening my faith in god and praying more to him. Suddenly shortly after my life took a turn for the worse, plunging me into a state of misery. This is not the first time such a thing has occurred, and now I deeply regret ever praying to god. I have decided that this will be the last time I ever turn to god.
 
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Darkover

Darkover

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Jul 29, 2021
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it's just a bizarre case of cosmic synchronicity and coincidence, that is exactly what happened to you there is no god
 
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EternalShore

EternalShore

Hardworking Lass who Dreams of Love~ 💕✨
Jun 9, 2023
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I'm sorry God has not been answering your prayers and is seemingly going against them. One must remember that God is sovereign and not subject to our wills even as much as we wish He would solve our problems and not curse us! >_<
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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I could never believe in such a thing, I just don't believe there's a reason as to why people suffer so much, it's just the consequence of chance so cruelly determining everything. But anyway I get that it's awful when existing just continues to get worse, existence is just too cruel.
 
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WAITING TO DIE

TORMENTED
Sep 30, 2023
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This is a weird phenomenon I have experienced in the past before I became agnostic.
I don't believe in the biblical god, yet I believe that Gnosticism maybe true, and that the true God is a sadistic control freak called Yaldabaoth.
I once prayed for my broken arm to be healed quicker so I could get back to riding my bike again.
2 hours later I feel down the stairs and twisted my ankle. WTF !
 
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MatrixPrisoner

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Jul 8, 2023
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God is the devil in disguise.
 
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BlazingBob

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I'm still here b/c of my dogs
Oct 28, 2021
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I can really relate to this. Maybe if I prayed that God would make my life even more awful than it already is it might get better. Like reverse psychology.
 
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Obliviate

Obliviate

Abandon All Hope
Aug 13, 2022
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LMFAO honestly same...........everytime I would pray.........bad things would happen........if I did not pray, bad and good things would happen so wtf is the point.......

Every time I would pray for help.......the opposite would happen and I just look up put my hands up and be like "wtf are you even doing"

Have applied to 200+ jobs that I am qualified for........prayed about it......NOTHING.......didn't pray about it.....still nothing

I stopped believing in prayer and became an agnostic when I prayed so hard, begged and cried that my tiny kitten would live when he was sick and I was even saying to take me instead and yeah he was dying on my lap and then died.

My current cat got diagnosed with asthma and heart disease.........that I prayed about when waiting for the results..........
The day he got diagnosed with heart disease, I SMASHED, STOMPED ON AND THREW AWAY all the religious crap in the house that my family had while screaming fuck you.

He also got his heart recheck up recently and I was like I'm not gonna pray because it LITERALLY won't make a difference. And the results were fine.


Praying is useless. There is no such things as stupid miracles. IF god exists then they gave us free will to do whatever the fuck we want and go through whatever the fuck we gotta go through. There is no divine intervention. If god is so amazing and powerful then why let small children get butchered, raped, sex trafficked etc etc etc

It's all about privilege and luck and wealth. NOONE and I mean NOONE is coming to save you.

I have ALWAYS been a good kind hearted individual that helped everyone around me and people just stomp on me including "god"
 
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thornyrose

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Jun 30, 2023
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This is according to the nature of God. If you pray for patience, you will likely meet people who will get on your nerves. If you pray for a solution for your problems, He might just turn up the heat to make you focus on finding a solution. Make no mistakes when it comes to understanding God. He is benevolent. It's just that He actually needs to let us be in enough problems to make us turn to Him. Because it's not like we would turn to Him otherwise. In that sense, people have become a bit dumb after the fall to sin.

If you have the wrong idea of God, your prayers will actually be addressed to malevolent deities, whom you're regarding as God in the place of the Almighty. Do you realize the difference of meaning between the words God and god? It's like you're accurately explaining that you've been praying to idols, which is, lets put it mildly, a sin. More accurately, one of the sins you'd get into the most trouble for.

Go get a good idea of the God you're praying to before asking for things. You won't be under His protection until you decide to follow Him for the rest of your life and beyond into eternity. Because that's His main goal. To have you pure enough from sin after being taught by Him, that you can withstand His fuller presence. The happiness at the beginning of faith comes from learning about God. Material good things can be gifted to you only when they mean nothing to you in comparison with time spent praying, because otherwise, they'd steer you away from the main goal.

Sorry if my words are harsh. I don't want to take the time to soften them, feeling a bit lazy right now. But I do mean well, even if it doesn't seem that way. I want you to be happy like I was at the beginning of faith, and not distraught like I was before it. And not in this state of depression that I am in right now because I've been putting my time into people and not time spent in religious practice. I guess I'll go do that next, thank you for bringing that to my mind.
 
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Obliviate

Obliviate

Abandon All Hope
Aug 13, 2022
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This is according to the nature of God. If you pray for patience, you will likely meet people who will get on your nerves. If you pray for a solution for your problems, He might just turn up the heat to make you focus on finding a solution. Make no mistakes when it comes to understanding God. He is benevolent. It's just that He actually needs to let us be in enough problems to make us turn to Him. Because it's not like we would turn to Him otherwise. In that sense, people have become a bit dumb after the fall to sin.

If you have the wrong idea of God, your prayers will actually be addressed to malevolent deities, whom you're regarding as God in the place of the Almighty. Do you realize the difference of meaning between the words God and god? It's like you're accurately explaining that you've been praying to idols, which is, lets put it mildly, a sin. More accurately, one of the sins you'd get into the most trouble for.

Go get a good idea of the God you're praying to before asking for things. You won't be under His protection until you decide to follow Him for the rest of your life and beyond into eternity. Because that's His main goal. To have you pure enough from sin after being taught by Him, that you can withstand His fuller presence. The happiness at the beginning of faith comes from learning about God. Material good things can be gifted to you only when they mean nothing to you in comparison with time spent praying, because otherwise, they'd steer you away from the main goal.

Sorry if my words are harsh. I don't want to take the time to soften them, feeling a bit lazy right now. But I do mean well, even if it doesn't seem that way. I want you to be happy like I was at the beginning of faith, and not distraught like I was before it. And not in this state of depression that I am in right now because I've been putting my time into people and not time spent in religious practice. I guess I'll go do that next, thank you for bringing that to my mind.
You genuinely sound like you have delusional out of touch ideologies about religion, society and the atrocities of wtf is going on in the world. The excuses you give are illogical and down right hypocritical for your so called "loving" god. The description you just gave of your god sounds like a harsh, narcissistic, monstrous, dictator cult leader.

GOOD PEOPLE WHO ARE RELIGIOUS AND FOLLOW GOD ALSO GO THROUGH TREMENDOUS HORREDNOUS CRAP AND TRAUMA. There is no excuse.

It's very rude of you to weaponize "god" and undermine another's trauma by saying it's their fault. If a child gets raped it's their fault for not being religious enough? Literally such a weirdo
 
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Brown-Jacket Revy

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Jul 10, 2023
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If you have the wrong idea of God, your prayers will actually be addressed to malevolent deities, whom you're regarding as God in the place of the Almighty.
Uh, where is this in scripture?

I swear ya'll come up with the weirdest takes, speaking on behalf of God because of course God never speaks for himself.
This is a weird phenomenon I have experienced in the past before I became agnostic.
I don't believe in the biblical god, yet I believe that Gnosticism maybe true, and that the true God is a sadistic control freak called Yaldabaoth.
I once prayed for my broken arm to be healed quicker so I could get back to riding my bike again.
2 hours later I feel down the stairs and twisted my ankle. WTF !
I relate to the Gnostic paradigm as well.

My only gripe is that if we supposedly do have some sort of benefactor, they seem to be frustratingly elusive or perhaps impersonal.
 
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gorb

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Sep 22, 2023
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I can really relate to this. Maybe if I prayed that God would make my life even more awful than it already is it might get better. Like reverse psychology.
knowing my shit luck that will probably be the only time my prayers come true lol
 
cosifantutti

cosifantutti

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Aug 27, 2023
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I can remember just after 9/11, I prayed to God that I could take on some of the suffering in the world. That evening I crashed head first into a mental health crisis that was so bad I have never recovered.

God has got a wicked sense of humour.
 
hermestrimegistus

hermestrimegistus

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Sep 16, 2023
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Praying most times is just meditating on negative principles that youre then manifesting more of into your life. I hate the term fake it til you make it but if you act as if and practice gratitude you can see positive changes. I've long since fell off of this path and my life has turned to shit but when I was doing this it basically saved my life. Be grateful for everything you already have, everyday take stock of it. And imagine you already have what you need and act as if you do, and i swear it will make an improvement on your life
 
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Mar 21, 2019
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The difficulty in praying is not having faith, but trusting that an outside influence will intervene in your situation.

It would be more productive to focus on an issue you feel can be overcome and work toward that. If success is not an option, can you make the problem less severe? Every step forward is good, however small.
 
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thornyrose

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You genuinely sound like you have delusional out of touch ideologies about religion, society and the atrocities of wtf is going on in the world. The excuses you give are illogical and down right hypocritical for your so called "loving" god. The description you just gave of your god sounds like a harsh, narcissistic, monstrous, dictator cult leader.

GOOD PEOPLE WHO ARE RELIGIOUS AND FOLLOW GOD ALSO GO THROUGH TREMENDOUS HORREDNOUS CRAP AND TRAUMA. There is no excuse.

It's very rude of you to weaponize "god" and undermine another's trauma by saying it's their fault. If a child gets raped it's their fault for not being religious enough? Literally such a weirdo
I'm one of the suicidal people here too. And I've been in a boatload of pain for the last 15 years. My comment wasn't a response to yours in any way, and I wasn't trying to argue against anything you wrote. I do not condone the evil people do with their free will, it causes all kinds of negative emotions in me also. And I do not think that anyone deserves the bad things done to them. I do not blame anyone but the perpetrator for wrongdoings. I just don't blame God for it, that's the distinction. You did not understand what I meant, and that is fine. With the way you write about God, I don't really care what you think about me.

In summary, I'm capable of believing that a God who puts us through tough life circumstances and trauma, loves us. Because that was the only thing that was able to draw me from my logical atheism into praying and Bible reading. And that's what started to help me. And I'm saying, it's not smart to suffer as much as I did before really going to God for help, hoping someone will go earlier as a result of me telling this. Even though a vent on this side of the forum wasn't the right place for it. I've had many prayers answered since I've believed in God as he is described in the Bible, prayers that were according to God's will. Before, when I had my own idea of Him, my prayers were rarely answered, and they were usually against God's will. And those prayers lead to much suffering for me. In recent years, I've prayed more for spiritual things, healing, happiness. Those are the kind of things, when praying about, God usually answers. I shared these principles of how I've noticed things work in my life, in hopes that they help someone. Everyone is free to disbelieve me or call me names, I'm not spending any more of my time on this.
 
finalkarma

finalkarma

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Aug 17, 2023
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i cant believe im seeing this just after the exact same thing happened to me! about 2 months ago i prayed to die in my sleep, and when i woke up in the morning, i was late for something and got in huge trouble with someone :/ then just 2 hours ago, i decided to try again...i prayed and asked to let me pass in my sleep so that i can stop being a burden to my mother. i was very clear in prayer that she works hard everyday and should not be troubled with my existence, so i thought this would work...but i was woken up and told that my mom had been calling me down to eat and left somewhere looking sad. of course, what i wanted to avoid, making her more sad, it happened. i also decided this was my last time praying. for the past months i developed a hatred for religion and god and i think this is the final nail in the coffin...
 
hmskms

hmskms

trying to escape a world governed by sociopaths.
Jun 12, 2023
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YOU are god. rejecting your own authority will of course have its psychological consequences.
 
Meditation guide

Meditation guide

Always was, is, and always shall be.
Jun 22, 2020
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This has happened to me way to many times to just be a coincidence. Everytime i try to get closer to god and pray, it just seems to make everything worse. Always the opposite of what i prayed for happens. lately i had been feeling somewhat okay. And i very recently started straightening my faith in god and praying more to him. Suddenly shortly after my life took a turn for the worse, plunging me into a state of misery. This is not the first time such a thing has occurred, and now I deeply regret ever praying to god. I have decided that this will be the last time I ever turn to god.
I've noticed that too. I'm wondering if God simply is not the way we usually think of him or her. I'm not sure why people have the idea of God as loving when it's clear there is so much suffering.
 
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SmollMushroom

SmollMushroom

send N pls
Sep 27, 2023
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I'm not religious really, the only time I pray is at night, and I wish not to wake up the day after.
I wish that some sort of invisible angel descends from the skies during my sleep, pierces my chest and takes my soul.
But it never happens. And now that I think about it, it's kind of kinky too.
 

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