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When you could be purchasing Etonitazene and Isotonitazene. Google them.
 
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It's just crazy to me how heroin is illegal but opioids like the nitazenes, which have a low therapeutic index, are freely available online.
 
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ok, are there any instances where people have use these as a form of CTB?
 
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I personally would recommend against trying to buy any illegal drugs on the dark web- you can go to prison for that, and many people do. That won't help anyone's depression. There are a lot of legal means to ctb, and some can be peaceful. It is really worth the effort to do things legally, in my opinion, but each person needs to do their own risk assessment- don't do the crime if you can't do the time. To avoid legal issues is well worth doing in my opinion.
 
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I personally would recommend against trying to buy any illegal drugs on the dark web- you can go to prison for that, and many people do. That won't help anyone's depression. There are a lot of legal means to ctb, and some can be peaceful. It is really worth the effort to do things legally, in my opinion, but each person needs to do their own risk assessment- don't do the crime if you can't do the time. To avoid legal issues is well worth doing in my opinion.
You can also go to prison for buying Nembutal. Can you not?
 
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Many deaths have been attributed to these drugs. Intentional or otherwise. They're lethal. People forget the lethality of heroin just because a stronger substance hits the news/media. It's that weird mindset.

There's many of these opioids analogues. I listed a few in a thread yesterday.

They're available all over the net clear and dark. However you don't know what you're getting or what the potency/purity is. Some are so potent they pose risks to those who come near them ie family and pets so consider this if you ever get hold of them.

As far as the legal aspect of it. Lets just say some people over play it on either side of that coin. Everyone should do enough research to know for certain what risks they're taking and make an informed choice. If you can't do that you shouldn't even go near the dark net.
 
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It's just crazy to me how heroin is illegal but opioids like the nitazenes, which have a low therapeutic index, are freely available online.
What's crazy is you can still get it on the clear net I wouldn't trust it though. I would order it from a reputable supplier.
 
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Wasn't so long back it was entirely legal.


These substances wouldn't be hitting circulation if the war on drugs wasn't a thing.
 
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You can also go to prison for buying Nembutal. Can you not?
IN theory I think so, but based on reports from a lot of people here it is typically just confiscated and this doesn't happen. Fentanyl is wh9le different situatino, though, because it is so dangerous- the sentences for fentanyl are really high, depending on the quantity. The big difference I think is that in the u.s. it is known that nembutal is typically used to ctb, so they usually show some compasssion about this. Fentanyl causes many innocent deaths when it is laced into other drugs, so prison sentences tend to be long for this.
 
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Actually this isn't true. People buying small amounts of drugs for personal use from dark net markets don't get sent to prison for it unless they have previous prosecutions on their file or are repeat offenders following previous warnings. It's much the same as the N situation. Obviously the substance intercepted is relevant but LE don't know that the recipient ordered that particular substance or another. It's a common adulterant as was pointed out. They know this. The other instance in which prosecution occurs is if its clearly an amount for distribution or if its crossed international borders as that becomes a trafficking matter.

Long story short it's the vendors/sellers that get prison sentences not the small time buyers.

All this said, I'm not recommending anyone go attempting to purchase. I just wanted to correct the speculative misinformation.
 
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Yeah in some markets they tell you what M30 actually contains, which is in some cases even stronger than fentanyl. I think it's much better... I hope this is my way to ctb
M30 is one of the easiest drugs to buy on the Darkweb
 
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Been off opiates for years now, it's crazy to me that ppl say m30 now in referring to pressies when it used to just indicate the brand/strength of my percs
 
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Actually this isn't true. People buying small amounts of drugs for personal use from dark net markets don't get sent to prison for it unless they have previous prosecutions on their file or are repeat offenders following previous warnings. It's much the same as the N situation. Obviously the substance intercepted is relevant but LE don't know that the recipient ordered that particular substance or another. It's a common adulterant as was pointed out. They know this. The other instance in which prosecution occurs is if its clearly an amount for distribution or if its crossed international borders as that becomes a trafficking matter.

Long story short it's the vendors/sellers that get prison sentences not the small time buyers.

All this said, I'm not recommending anyone go attempting to purchase. I just wanted to correct the speculative misinformation.
The average prison sentence for fentanyl trafficking in the u.s. is 74 months, but what quantity is considered to be trafficking and what quantty is consaidered to be personal use? So much is left up to the discretion of the individual judges in the u.s. that I wouldn't want to take the chance.

For possession it seems to vary by state. In Florida the law says "possession of fentanyl is a third-degree felony charge. Those who are convicted will be subject to a $5,000 fine, and up to five years in prison. Under Florida's severity rankings, Possession of Fentanyl is a Level 3 offense."

Just because some locaations don't sentence first time offenders doesn't mean that all locations do this. This dep0ends on the individual judge and it may also depend on their own point of view on politics. I personally wouldn't take the chance.
 
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The quantity isn't what governs whether its trafficking or not. Quantity is indicative of whether its for personal use or distribution (intent to supply).

What governs whether its trafficking is if it crosses borders. If you're intent on purchasing it would be much safer to do so domestically. Within your state is probably best but within your country will never be a trafficking charge unless you're part of a larger operation but if you were you wouldn't be reading this lol.

Truth is tons of drugs are sent through the mail daily.

Still, if you're not already versed in these things it's not something that offers many benefits to warrant doing so.
 
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There's drug delivery services on all sorts of platforms. Whatsapp, Keybase, Wikr, Telegram and of course DNM's but that article about the adulterated cocaine is a bit misleading. It (fentanyl) does show up in cocaine and other drugs like meth now and then but generally it's uses to substitute or increase potency of drugs that are considered downers. Heroin mostly. It can show up inbthings like meth purely by being in the same room as them when they were packaged up. It's not necessarily present in active doses in many cases and there's a bit of crossover in figures because often test samples come from paraphernalia that's been used multiple times. A "cooking" spoon for example. This muddies the results somewhat and certain organisations will omit any results that come from sources like that.


It looks like the cases in the article were accidental. I reckon the dealer gave them the wrong stuff accidentally.


It's crazy how the families and friends interviewed play down the fact the buyers were using cocaine. Like 'she (the legal professional) was just having a little bit of cocaine. She would never touch other drugs! '

People are so selective in their views.

Don't get me wrong, there's some relevance in the details of which drug they were using, clearly. As this marked the difference between survival and death but ultimately they're using drugs. They're taking a risk. They know better than most just what that risk is given their profession. Drugs are in society. They're in the highest of places as well as the lowest. All this snobbery is ridiculous much like the publics scewed view of drugs in general. Fed a load of nonsense all their lives. I find it infuriating.
 
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The average prison sentence for fentanyl trafficking in the u.s. is 74 months, but what quantity is considered to be trafficking and what quantty is consaidered to be personal use? So much is left up to the discretion of the individual judges in the u.s. that I wouldn't want to take the chance.

For possession it seems to vary by state. In Florida the law says "possession of fentanyl is a third-degree felony charge. Those who are convicted will be subject to a $5,000 fine, and up to five years in prison. Under Florida's severity rankings, Possession of Fentanyl is a Level 3 offense."

Just because some locaations don't sentence first time offenders doesn't mean that all locations do this. This dep0ends on the individual judge and it may also depend on their own point of view on politics. I personally wouldn't take the chance.
In the US, Don't sign for anything and you're safe. A and D both shipped in a way that made people sign with some weird courier that's not the usps. This literally goes against all the rules of being safe on the dark web.
 
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