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anopenwound

anopenwound

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Jul 27, 2024
154
I feel like we're trapped in a nightmare. The type of pain mental illness brings can be framed as justification, as evasiveness, as refusal to engage, as being lazy, non-compliant, a dickhead. It's like people are not processing words when you say you want to die. That you can't keep doing this. It reads as a nuisance. Every struggle that comes with it is a nuisance, it's carrying intention, it's just being a bad person. Even if they say they get it they proceed as treating you as if you're not affected by those symptoms. They expect you to still function.
I thought we were doing better than this. I thought being open about this would bring people to try handle things with care. It doesn't.

It's one of the many reasons why I don't want to keep living. This is incredibly cruel. If this is living I want no part in it.
 
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fadedghost

Found SaSu after reading BBC & watching YouTube
Dec 10, 2025
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I feel like we're trapped in a nightmare. The type of pain mental illness brings can be framed as justification, as evasiveness, as refusal to engage, as being lazy, non-compliant, a dickhead. It's like people are not processing words when you say you want to die. That you can't keep doing this. It reads as a nuisance. Every struggle that comes with it is a nuisance, it's carrying intention, it's just being a bad person. Even if they say they get it they proceed as treating you as if you're not affected by those symptoms. They expect you to still function.
I thought we were doing better than this. I thought being open about this would bring people to try handle things with care. It doesn't.

It's one of the many reasons why I don't want to keep living. This is incredibly cruel. If this is living I want no part in it.
Yep, mental health awareness is entirely about making normal people feel better and giving themselves a pat on the back with the goal to get all weird people on psychotropic drugs and locked up or managed by a psychiatrist so that normal people don't have to deal or think about weird people.
 
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anopenwound

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Jul 27, 2024
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Yep, mental health awareness is entirely about making normal people feel better and giving themselves a pat on the back with the goal to get all weird people on psychotropic drugs and locked up or managed by a psychiatrist so that normal people don't have to deal or think about weird people.
It's like, if you keep on getting worse, it can't be because you're ill, 'cause everybody's doing the right thing when it comes to taking care of you. They're talking, which means you're not listening. They're telling you what to do, which means that you don't wanna do it. They're caring, which means you're not. You don't. It's insane. I'm trying. I keep on saying I'm tired and it doesn't register. I'm being dramatic. I'm tired. I'm fucking tired. I want someone to believe me when I say it 'cause I am. I don't understand what's so difficult to comprehend. I don't want anything to do with anybody anymore.
 
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TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
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Yeah I definitely see this IRL, especially with how much society (wherever they are, be it at the workplace, streets, or anything) promotes 'mental health awareness!' and all the slogans, but the moment it becomes inconvenient, uncomfortable (especially hinting at CTB), or anything it becomes hostility and benevolent paternalism, 'We MuSt PrEvEnT SuIcIdE!' or any of the old tired cliche platitudes, and more... it's frustrating for sure.

In the end, at least what I deduced from decades of sentience (hopefully not much longer and I would check out sooner than later) is that people don't really give a shit about the "problems, reasons, or anything" and they are more bothered about being inconvenienced or having their 'world view' shattered by things that they go to great lengths to prevent CTB at all costs.
 
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anopenwound

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Jul 27, 2024
154
Yeah I definitely see this IRL, especially with how much society (wherever they are, be it at the workplace, streets, or anything) promotes 'mental health awareness!' and all the slogans, but the moment it becomes inconvenient, uncomfortable (especially hinting at CTB), or anything it becomes hostility and benevolent paternalism, 'We MuSt PrEvEnT SuIcIdE!' or any of the old tired cliche platitudes, and more... it's frustrating for sure.

In the end, at least what I deduced from decades of sentience (hopefully not much longer and I would check out sooner than later) is that people don't really give a shit about the "problems, reasons, or anything" and they are more bothered about being inconvenienced or having their 'world view' shattered by things that they go to great lengths to prevent CTB at all costs.
They're uncomfortable 'cause they can't explain why this isn't working. It's better to pin it on us. We made a choice to be bad, not to listen, not to fight.

Fine.
Whatever.

Just leave me alone.
 
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Life's not a comedy

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I'm seeing a lot of poltical and moral beliefs from people who lack real self-awareness and empathy seem to base their opinions on what is socially acceptable within their circle, that is, until those values are tested and begins to even slightly affect them personally or has the potential to. Then it might be worth a second thought. We're so focused on optics now and that projection takes precedent. Values and morals require work man. /s They're too intrusive and it's not like they're lucrative. /s
We're living in a warped reality and things are not as they seem. Optics take precedent over substance and actual work, so it's more than just disheartening to find out there's a false sense of security at every turn nowadays. Optical illusions aren't fun anymore, now they're just cruel. Good post.
 
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anopenwound

I̸'̷m̵ ̸g̶o̷i̶n̵g̷ ̶h̵o̶m̶e̶.̵
Jul 27, 2024
154
I'm seeing a lot of poltical and moral beliefs from people who lack real self-awareness and empathy seem to base their opinions on what is socially acceptable within their circle, that is, until those values are tested and begins to even slightly affect them personally or has the potential to. Then it might be worth a second thought. We're so focused on optics now and that projection takes precedent. Values and morals require work man. /s They're too intrusive and it's not like they're lucrative. /s
We're living in a warped reality and things are not as they seem. Optics take precedent over substance and actual work, so it's more than just disheartening to find out there's a false sense of security at every turn nowadays. Optical illusions aren't fun anymore, now they're just cruel. Good post.
No joke, this is the most insightful thing I've read in a long while about the current state of things. You've put into words a concept I always tried to grasp at.

It's literally all optics. Our own feelings are based on optics. These type of thinking annihilated our capacity to let go and have compassion for others. It basically transformed the value itself into something that needs to be exercised so perfectly least we're all failing. We can't accept that failure 'cause then we're either bad or causing harm which is inexcusable. Even if the value itself is compassion, being compassionate to others, which would entail being compassionate towards ourselves and others even when we're not being fully compassionate. It's a feedback loop. We're stuck in our heads. We can't seem to meet the other. We're lonely, lost at sea, and we can't stop blaming each other for it, which is exactly what's driving us away. Why would I want to live like this. Everything good about life is lost in this void. If every single aspect of our humanity requires this level of scrutiny, where it's impossible to experience anything without some evaluation or judgement that is rooted in a sentimental idea of morality, then life isn't worth living. Then I don't want to live.
 
fadedghost

fadedghost

Found SaSu after reading BBC & watching YouTube
Dec 10, 2025
407
evasiveness, as refusal to engage, as being lazy, non-compliant
At that point, when you are being told words like this, the system is managing you...

You've gotten into the mental health system, and these words are used in trying to manage you to conform to society's expectations.

They have a standard set of terms. So what happens is you become managed (psychiatrist, psychologist, psychotropic medication, and possibly government assistance, which is also a form of management)

Once that happens, they provide medication and therapy. If they like you, and you're polite, and say they are helping, and make their job easier, then you are compliant, making progress, and working hard on mental health recovery.

If you aren't nice to them, if you aren't polite, if they don't like you, if you aren't getting better or family members are complaining to them, then you are non-compliant, not engaging, lack insight, have personality issues (it's not mental illness; you're just an asshole), and then they also increase medications.

Medications often consist of either things to increase serotonin (obliviousness) or they prescribe tranquilizers (just sleep through your life and emotions; watch TV; be happy and sedated), and if you say you are happier and no one complains, then they say you are compliant and showing insight and say you're improving.

If you don't, they prescribe more medications, say you lack insight, prescribe harsher medications, etc.

The trick with all of this is the harsher medications make it harder to think clearly, so you're more likely to say offensive things and stupid things and be oblivious. It's harder to navigate social situations when you are on psychiatric drugs if intelligence is required, unless you are so incredibly drugged that nothing bothers you, and you get criticized so much when you express your feelings that you just shut down and don't talk about your feelings.

The best psych patients are somewhat good-natured, like being on tranquilizers and other SSRIs, and are cool with watching TV all day, don't talk too much about emotions unless asked or do it in a very mellow sedated way that doesn't bother people, and collect money from the government.

Once you are in the system, it is incredibly hard to get out, especially if there is family involvement. Society will say you are mental and need to be sedated and drugged. Your parents will view it as more irresponsibility if you stop taking drugs and stop being engaged in mental health.

Another thing to keep in mind is these people get paid very large amounts to manage the lower classes of society, and by and large psychiatric patients are lower class because they have no money, unless they come from a wealthy family.

Really, the only way to get out is to get a full-time job, work, and get away from the area where you had a psychiatrist and where your family is. Family and psychiatry have a hard time blocking someone from getting a full-time job; they can say you're not ready, but if you find someone to hire you and you're interested, it's not socially acceptable for them to say "No you're not allowed to work." It's hard for them to threaten you with more drugs or involuntary treatment if you look for work. It's also best if possible to find a full-time job first and tell them after. You literally have to tell them, after you find the job, "I have a full-time job and am moving farther away. I no longer qualify for government programs and can't afford to pay you and will be farther away. I will be looking for another psychiatrist and have called several." And then you change your number so they can't welfare check track you by cell phone, and you stop paying them, and if your parents are paying them, you can't control that but you don't tell the psychiatrist in person you are stopping, you tell them over the phone once you start working and have an apartment or are renting a room. You also need a new bank account if your parents know where your bank is and you move as far away as possible, ideally commute to work and live farther away, linked to the NEW number, not the old one.

And if you do this, you have to exercise. This doesn't work without exercise. And you can't do drugs or alcohol because your brain is already frail. That's the best way to deal with it if you can deal with full-time work.

If you can't deal with full-time work, realize these mental health professionals never help people and just help society by managing people in most cases. Unless you are a wealthy woman in her late 30s who needs to find introspection and closure and can pay someone quite well and wants to talk, most of these people are there to manage weird people in society.

Another user on SaSu actually said this idea better than me, and I realized it was exactly true, so I am slightly stealing that person's idea when saying this, probably in a way they wouldn't like (sorry).

But mental health professionals will treat you much much better if you complement them, make their job easy, and don't try to express yourself in any way that seems over the top in most cases. If you are trying to be on disability and just get medication and therapy and don't want to work because of too many issues, that's an easier way to approach it. And every situation is different, but that's my cynical take on it, and I am very biased against psychiatry and psychology, so take that bias into account. My perspective my be not the same as someone who doesn't have extremely negative personal experiences.

Vigorous exercise, like running, plus no drugs or alcohol, plus community involvement (volunteering, support groups, etc) may be better than what the mental health industry offers, but there have never been any studies funded to test this because no one has any interest in proving that psychiatry and psychology often offer only little value because most people prefer that weird people are drugged up and managed.
 
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anopenwound

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Jul 27, 2024
154
At that point, when you are being told words like this, the system is managing you...

You've gotten into the mental health system, and these words are used in trying to manage you to conform to society's expectations.

They have a standard set of terms. So what happens is you become managed (psychiatrist, psychologist, psychotropic medication, and possibly government assistance, which is also a form of management)

Once that happens, they provide medication and therapy. If they like you, and you're polite, and say they are helping, and make their job easier, then you are compliant, making progress, and working hard on mental health recovery.

If you aren't nice to them, if you aren't polite, if they don't like you, if you aren't getting better or family members are complaining to them, then you are non-compliant, not engaging, lack insight, have personality issues (it's not mental illness; you're just an asshole), and then they also increase medications.

Medications often consist of either things to increase serotonin (obliviousness) or they prescribe tranquilizers (just sleep through your life and emotions; watch TV; be happy and sedated), and if you say you are happier and no one complains, then they say you are compliant and showing insight and say you're improving.

If you don't, they prescribe more medications, say you lack insight, prescribe harsher medications, etc.

The trick with all of this is the harsher medications make it harder to think clearly, so you're more likely to say offensive things and stupid things and be oblivious. It's harder to navigate social situations when you are on psychiatric drugs if intelligence is required, unless you are so incredibly drugged that nothing bothers you, and you get criticized so much when you express your feelings that you just shut down and don't talk about your feelings.

The best psych patients are somewhat good-natured, like being on tranquilizers and other SSRIs, and are cool with watching TV all day, don't talk too much about emotions unless asked or do it in a very mellow sedated way that doesn't bother people, and collect money from the government.

Once you are in the system, it is incredibly hard to get out, especially if there is family involvement. Society will say you are mental and need to be sedated and drugged. Your parents will view it as more irresponsibility if you stop taking drugs and stop being engaged in mental health.

Another thing to keep in mind is these people get paid very large amounts to manage the lower classes of society, and by and large psychiatric patients are lower class because they have no money, unless they come from a wealthy family.

Really, the only way to get out is to get a full-time job, work, and get away from the area where you had a psychiatrist and where your family is. Family and psychiatry have a hard time blocking someone from getting a full-time job; they can say you're not ready, but if you find someone to hire you and you're interested, it's not socially acceptable for them to say "No you're not allowed to work." It's hard for them to threaten you with more drugs or involuntary treatment if you look for work. It's also best if possible to find a full-time job first and tell them after. You literally have to tell them, after you find the job, "I have a full-time job and am moving farther away. I no longer qualify for government programs and can't afford to pay you and will be farther away. I will be looking for another psychiatrist and have called several." And then you change your number so they can't welfare check track you by cell phone, and you stop paying them, and if your parents are paying them, you can't control that but you don't tell the psychiatrist in person you are stopping, you tell them over the phone once you start working and have an apartment or are renting a room. You also need a new bank account if your parents know where your bank is and you move as far away as possible, ideally commute to work and live farther away, linked to the NEW number, not the old one.

And if you do this, you have to exercise. This doesn't work without exercise. And you can't do drugs or alcohol because your brain is already frail. That's the best way to deal with it if you can deal with full-time work.

If you can't deal with full-time work, realize these mental health professionals never help people and just help society by managing people in most cases. Unless you are a wealthy woman in her late 30s who needs to find introspection and closure and can pay someone quite well and wants to talk, most of these people are there to manage weird people in society.

Another user on SaSu actually said this idea better than me, and I realized it was exactly true, so I am slightly stealing that person's idea when saying this, probably in a way they wouldn't like (sorry).

But mental health professionals will treat you much much better if you complement them, make their job easy, and don't try to express yourself in any way that seems over the top in most cases. If you are trying to be on disability and just get medication and therapy and don't want to work because of too many issues, that's an easier way to approach it. And every situation is different, but that's my cynical take on it, and I am very biased against psychiatry and psychology, so take that bias into account. My perspective my be not the same as someone who doesn't have extremely negative personal experiences.

Vigorous exercise, like running, plus no drugs or alcohol, plus community involvement (volunteering, support groups, etc) may be better than what the mental health industry offers, but there have never been any studies funded to test this because no one has any interest in proving that psychiatry and psychology often offer only little value because most people prefer that weird people are drugged up and managed.
To some extent I do think meds are necessary for some to at least enjoy being alive in the slightest. But for real a lot of the times its just a a lot of words to say "I dont appreciate you not doing as expected". The expectation is never argued. Its imposed based on whatever. Preached, even. I did everything everybody else expected. All it did was making me feel more inclined to ctb.
 

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