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YOU, that's who! You're the one trying to reinvent the wheel. The freaking link you included, which I quoted, has NOTHING to do with partial. From now on if you want to make some convoluted point, leave me the hell out of it. If I remember correctly, and I do, when all this nonsense started, you didn't even realize that the constricting of the trachea was the source of the pain for hanging and something that NEEDS to be avoided. It seemed you were just going to go with whatever you understood correct hanging to be and I wanted to possibly save you from the misery you'd be experiencing by doing it incorrectly. Last time I'll make that mistake. Do it ANY way you wish.
This link here? This link is about full-suspension hanging, not partial.

https://archive.ashspace.org/ash.xanthia.com/suspension.html
And neither is this link:

https://web.archive.org/web/20211123040828/https://suicide.wiki/w/Hanging

Think you better read things again.
Directly from the suicide wiki link:

"compressing the trachea (or windpipe)[1|2|3], hurts, causes suffocation, and triggers the CO2 panic response → anatomy of thyroid[1|2|3]"
My purpose is not to place me between you 2 in your discussion. I just need, if you're ok, to have more precisions about the metal-ring to avoid compressing the trachea. I don't speak englisf well at all and it's difficult, sorry. Is it really possible to avoid compressing the trachea in case of full-suspension hanging ? It would be easier to understand with a drawing (where and how to put the metal-ring, 1 or 2 metal-ring(s)) and does the rope slip into the metal ring or not ? I'm lost in fact. Thank you for the help from anybody !
 
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Oh, I'm entirely done with the back and forth between myself and her.

It's hard to decipher about this metal ring. Somehow the rope is supposed to be threaded through the ring in such a way as there will be "slack" in the rope left in the area of the ring. This is supposed to keep the rope from squeezing in the area of the ring which is sitting against the area where the trachea is located. Pictures would have been beneficial, but the creator of that content didn't include any. He didn't even go into how big a ring to use. It IS the choking off of the trachea, though, that makes hanging painful and, even more so, very uncomfortable. As gone over numerous times in many hanging threads, constricting the windpipe is not, and should not be, the goal of hanging.

Really, it's just another iteration of placing cornhole bags on either side of the neck to help compress the carotid arteries, but at the same time alleviating pressure on the trachea.
 
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Oh, I'm entirely done with the back and forth between myself and her.

It's hard to decipher about this metal ring. Somehow the rope is supposed to be threaded through the ring in such a way as there will be "slack" in the rope left in the area of the ring. This is supposed to keep the rope from squeezing in the area of the ring which is sitting against the area where the trachea is located. Pictures would have been beneficial, but the creator of that content didn't include any. He didn't even go into how big a ring to use. It IS the choking off of the trachea, though, that makes hanging painful and, even more so, very uncomfortable. As gone over numerous times in many hanging threads, constricting the windpipe is not, and should not be, the goal of hanging.

Really, it's just another iteration of placing cornhole bags on either side of the neck to help compress the carotid arteries, but at the same time alleviating pressure on the trachea.
Hey, I want to thank you for mentioning cornhole bags again. I decided to do some more research on what a cornhole bag is and... yeah, I think it could work. Initially I thought it was some squishy, soft bag kind of thing, but I'm starting to doubt that now. I never held a cornhole bag in my hands, you see.

Alright, so yeah, I got my ignorance to blame for that, seeing how you mentioned cornhole bags before.

Oh well, anyway, I hope we can get along from now on. Your input was valuable. I am willing to try the cornhole bags in my attempt.

And to rectify my past ignorance on the matter, I will make a new thread about this in the near future.
 
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Hey, I want to thank you for mentioning cornhole bags again. I decided to do some more research on what a cornhole bag is and... yeah, I think it could work. Initially I thought it was some squishy, soft bag kind of thing, but I'm starting to doubt that now. I never held a cornhole bag in my hands, you see.

Alright, so yeah, I got my ignorance to blame for that, seeing how you mentioned cornhole bags before.

Oh well, anyway, I hope we can get along from now on. Your input was valuable. I am willing to try the cornhole bags in my attempt.

And to rectify my past ignorance on the matter, I will make a new thread about this in the near future.
Hey. Here's another way if you're still thinking about hanging in the future. It probably doesn't utilize any rings on the rope, though, unfortunately.

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Hé, je veux te remercier d'avoir mentionné à nouveau les sacs de cornhole. J'ai décidé de faire quelques recherches supplémentaires sur ce qu'est un sac de cornhole et... ouais, je pense que ça pourrait marcher. Au début, je pensais que c'était une sorte de sac mou et spongieux, mais je commence à en douter maintenant. Je n'ai jamais tenu un sac de cornhole dans mes mains, tu vois.

Bon, alors oui, c'est mon ignorance qui est à blâmer pour ça, vu que tu as mentionné les sacs de cornhole avant.

Bon, bon, j'espère qu'on pourra s'entendre à partir de maintenant. Votre avis a été précieux. Je suis prêt à essayer les sacs de cornhole dans ma tentative.

Et pour rectifier mon ignorance passée sur le sujet, je ferai un nouveau fil à ce sujet dans un avenir proche.
Merci à vous de vouloir faire un nouveau fil prochainement concernant les sacs de cornhole ou tout autre moyen de ne pas écraser la trachée lors d'une pendaison complète, mais seulement bloquer la cir ulation sanguine vers le cerveau (carotides). Pensez-vous qu'il soit possible aussi de ne pas écraser les jugulaires mais uniquement les carotides ? Comme vous êtes spécialiste de la question, peut-être aurez-vous un moyen envisageable ? Le but est bien de stopper l'apport de sang et donc d'oxygène au cerveau, n'est-ce pas ? Si seules les carotides sont écrasées, c'est ce qui se produit, et en évitant d'écraser les jugulaires on éviterait aussi la tête qui gonfle avec l'impression qu'elle va exploser, n'est-ce pas ? C'est très technique comme question, mais ça vaut peut-être la peine de voir ce qui serait faisable ? J'ai vu les sacs de cornhole pour la méthode nuit/nuit en étant allongé, avec le sparadrap, etc. mais cette méthode me semble trop incertaine. Adaptée à une suspension complète, ce serait peut-être fiable ? Hâte de vous lire. Merci.
 
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Merci à vous de vouloir faire un nouveau fil prochainement concernant les sacs de cornhole ou tout autre moyen de ne pas écraser la trachée lors d'une pendaison complète, mais seulement bloquer la cir ulation sanguine vers le cerveau (carotides). Pensez-vous qu'il soit possible aussi de ne pas écraser les jugulaires mais uniquement les carotides ? Comme vous êtes spécialiste de la question, peut-être aurez-vous un moyen envisageable ? Le but est bien de stopper l'apport de sang et donc d'oxygène au cerveau, n'est-ce pas ? Si seules les carotides sont écrasées, c'est ce qui se produit, et en évitant d'écraser les jugulaires on éviterait aussi la tête qui gonfle avec l'impression qu'elle va exploser, n'est-ce pas ? C'est très technique comme question, mais ça vaut peut-être la peine de voir ce qui serait faisable ? J'ai vu les sacs de cornhole pour la méthode nuit/nuit en étant allongé, avec le sparadrap, etc. mais cette méthode me semble trop incertaine. Adaptée à une suspension complète, ce serait peut-être fiable ? Hâte de vous lire. Merci.
What seems too uncertain to you?

And no, you will always compress the jugulars when hanging yourself, doesn't matter if full or partial suspension hanging.
 
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Qu'est-ce qui vous semble trop incertain ?

Et non, vous comprimerez toujours les jugulaires lorsque vous vous pendez, peu importe qu'il s'agisse d'une suspension totale ou partielle.
C'est la suspension partielle et la méthode nuit-nuit qui me semblent trop incertaines.
OK, je comprends, les jugulaires seront toujours compressées si les carotides le sont. Mais si au moins il est possible de ne pas écraser la trachée et bloquer les voies respiratoires, ce serait une bonne chose. Merci !
 
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Are you new to hanging? Or maybe just trying to find out if hanging is the right method for you? This reading guide has you covered! This is your one stop shop to both partial suspension hanging and full suspension hanging.

This is a reading guide to the guides I published on this forum so far. I will arrange the guides in the order you should read them. I highly recommend you read them all.

With this, I guarantee you will find out whether or not hanging is right for you and, if it is a good fit, you'll have all the knowledge you need to hang yourself like an expert.

Unfortunately I can't edit the original post, so in case of future updates check the replies below.

With all that out the way, let's begin!


1) Learn about a simple experiment you can do to know what a successful partial suspension hanging feels like:

2) Learn from how others have managed to kill themselves with partial suspension hanging:

Editor's note: At the moment of writing, I didn't publish any written guide on partial suspension hanging specifically, since for the vast majority of people it just won't work. But it follows a lot of the same principles of full suspension hanging, so you can read the guides below to get an idea on how partial suspension hanging should be done. Particularly, look at step 6 of this guide.

3) Once the frustration from partial suspension hanging sets in, learn about how it feels to kill yourself with full suspension hanging:

4) Learn all the basics of full suspension hanging:

5) Learn about suitable anchor points for full suspension hanging available to anyone:

6) Learn about common mistakes in hanging and how to avoid them (valid also for partial suspension hanging):

7) Learn some important information on hanging:


Hope this is a good source of information to everyone! May you all find peace in your journey!
Thank you very much for posting all this info
 
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UPDATE!

I found this interesting thread that contains a video of a forensic analyst discussing hanging. It's worth a watch, so I am sharing it with you all.

 
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How long would it take to lose consciousness in either method?
Or put another way, how long would u need to endure to get through the physical pain?

It's a common method and i think how famous people have done it (chris cornell, chester bennington, robin williams, michael hutchence, david foster wallace, sulli, kate spade...) and they got through the SI somehow, sometimes with prescription meds/benzos and alcohol in their systems.

Would alcohol and klonopin help to fight through the SI?

Add to the list, Tara Condell and Rahul N Kutty. I wonder too how they were able to do it on a whim and succeeded at it when this site makes it sound like it is hard to succeed at doing unless it's done a certain way.
Thank you
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UPDATE!

If you want to learn how hanging compares against all other suicide methods in terms of comfort and reliability, check out this thread:

I cant find a rope thats 12 mm x 10 mm reliably near me tips? Gonna end it before the end of the week preferably full suspension.
 
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UPDATE!

I found a guide on partial suspension hanging made by someone who later managed to die by partial suspension hanging. I think it could be useful to someone.

 
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Hello evelyn! What type of rope should i use for it to be more successful? I'm F, with height 5"0 and weight 57kg.. I've read this guide but I don't See anything that says what type of rope we should use,,, hoping you'd notice this, tysm
 
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Hello evelyn! What type of rope should i use for it to be more successful? I'm F, with height 5"0 and weight 57kg.. I've read this guide but I don't See anything that says what type of rope we should use,,, hoping you'd notice this, tysm
In the past I believe she said she'd be using a 12mm braided rope. Generally the thicker the rope, the more comfortable it'll be. In theory you could use anything as thin as a wire, but I believe 8–12+ would work.
 
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UPDATE!

Can full suspension hanging be made painless or less painful? That's what we're trying to find out in this thread:

 
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UPDATE!

Can full suspension hanging be made painless or less painful? That's what we're trying to find out in this thread:

"The requested thread could not be found"
Weird.
 
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