Drowning is the perfect way to make a suicide look like an accident

[FireFox]

Drowning is the perfect tactic let me explain how.

Here in England where I live there was a high profile missing persons case this year. Her name was Nicola Bulley. Nicola was a middle class dog walker and mother of 2 that went missing after walking her dog in a park and logged into a Microsoft Teams meeting call. Her body was found weeks later in the river of the park where she went missing.

Her irritating family kept being defensive on tv saying how her life is perfect, how she will never abandon her kids and how she is good mother had they told the truth maybe she could have been saved. I felt sorry for them but afterwards they kept interfering in the police investigation, criticing the police and not leaving the police to do their jobs. It eventually came put the woman was an alcoholic and a month before she went missing the police and health care team came to her house for a welfare check. In the UK you get a police welfare check if you are danger to yourself ie suicidal or have harmed yourself in your own home. That woman killed herself. The cause of death is currently deemed a tragic accident. The police say we will never know what happened.

The thing with drowning is if you leave no suicide note and go through the months successfully convincing your loved ones into believing you are not suicidal then with drowning everyone will suspect it is an accident.

 

[Gonnerr]

Same thing if you go on a hike and jump from a mountain and commit suicide there , nobody will know for sure if it was just an accident or suicide if you leave no note and act like you are fine the days before.

 

[FuneralCry]

It's very true, as I believe that drowning is most commonly associated with accidental deaths and many people have likely accidentally died this way. But it does sound like a horrific method to me and like it would be difficult to overcome the SI, but of course I guess that it's always possible to ctb in such a way.

 

[FireFox]

Same thing if you go on a hike and jump from a mountain and commit suicide there , nobody will know for sure if it was just an accident or suicide if you leave no note and act like you are fine the days before.

@Gonnerr before the body was found The UK police in the beginning told the public that she fell in the river. The British public gave the police such a hard time, accusing them lying and everyone started behaving like a detective. People from different towns and cities in the UK were even visiting the place where she went missing to look for "clues. "

On social media the British public were scrutinising everything in her life, her relationship, her job etc and were been going through all her Facebook posts.Her disappearance has been subject to multiple conspiracy theories. The theories on social media are absolutely disgusting.The family were even getting social media abuse and harassment from the social media true crime community. It waa disgusting.

The theories are the following:

- Her husband killed her even though the police have evidence he was working all day the day she disappeared. The fact the husband wasn't crying and breaking down on his SKY news appearance people think he killed her. I watched his appearance on chanel 5 news and it is so clear this man is devastated his partner is missing and cant explain to his kids where their mother is. His eyes show his pain and hurt. It is so clear he deeply loves his partner

- the husband and Nicola Bulley sister are having an affair and they both killed her

- Nicola bulley faked her disappearance to start a new life
- Nicola, the husband and family all colluded to fake her missing to get money and fame.
- others think she killed herself
- Many people believe think she was abducted. My mum believes this too.

Going missing there is no dignity. The police were right the entire time that she drowned as her body surfaced later in the river. The way the public and media too in how they treated the police was disgusting. The police deserve an apology.

 

[Das Nichts]

If your body is found. Otherwise your are just disappearing which I think is much worse then everybody knowing you CTB'd.

 

[CTB Fella]

I don't want my suicide to look like an accident.

I want all the fuck heads who've failed me to know exactly what they've done.

 

[FireFox]

If your body is found. Otherwise your are just disappearing which I think is much worse then everybody knowing you CTB'd.

@Das Nichts It is good point just following the case of Nicola bulley I would hate to go missing because all aspects of your private life is now open scrutiny and things you didn't want others to know will come out.

When nicola bulley went missing her family painted this image of her as the woman who had it all. Beauty, successful career, loving mother, loving partner and respected in her local community. As time went on it came out in the police Investigation she had issues with alcoholism and a month before she went missing a welfare check was called to her home. Here in the UK you get a welfare check if there is serious concerns about your mental health normally its because you are danger to yourself. The police and ambulance service come to your home.

The whole thing shocked the British public however I found family's behaviour odd especially when they were tv constantly mentioning how she will never abandon her kids and how everything is going well in her. I felt they were too defensive had they been honest about her vulnerabilities she could have been found time maybe as the officers would have adopted a different approach to finding her.

The stigma of suicide is still far worse than going missing.

I don't want my suicide to look like an accident.

I want all the fuck heads who've failed me to know exactly what they've done.

@CTB Fella Awww virtual hug I am so sorry you are hurting.No one is worth ending your life over trust me. I had a relative in her early 40s who died last year suddenly it was not suicide. I am not allowed to say this to my family but her family played a massive role in her self destruction.

At 13 years old she was sexually abused by a school caretaker. Her mother and other relatives called her a bad girl who didn't listen to her parents and treated her as such . Instead of reporting the pedophile caretaker to the police the mother sent her away to a strict religious boarding school in one of these African countries. I always wonder what her life would have been like if she was not abused. My relative grew up abusing alcohol, had multiple sexual and unhealthy relationships with men. Life was spent in and out of rehab centres.

People will move on and some people are just too selfish to care about how their actions effect people. I know there many relatives who are glad she died because she was not a nice person. She hurt innocent people like my mother who did nothing wrong to her, abused her own kids who all ended up in the American Foster care system and was even terrorising her ex husband new wife.

Her family are at fault for her destructive behaviour for their failure to get her help from the sexual abuse she suffered. I even had to explain to my family a 13 can not consent to sex and what she experienced was sexual abuse. My family oh my god crucified me saying how she "was not a good girl", " she was asking for it, she wanted to be a grown up " " she didn't want to listen to her parents" etc. It was horrific to witness

 

[ThisIsLife]

Same thing if you go on a hike and jump from a mountain and commit suicide there , nobody will know for sure if it was just an accident or suicide if you leave no note and act like you are fine the days before.

With a mountain high enough, you wouldn't even have to bother jumping: pressure, oxygen depravation and cold would kill you quickly.

Crashing your car is easy to make it look like an accident too. Or your plane if you're rich enough :)

 

[Gonnerr]

Climbing everest and you die fast and doesn't look painful

 

[Das Nichts]

@Das Nichts It is good point just following the case of Nicola bulley I would hate to go missing because all aspects of your private life is now open scrutiny and things you didn't want others to know will come out.

When nicola bulley went missing her family painted this image of her as the woman who had it all. Beauty, successful career, loving mother, loving partner and respected in her local community. As time went on it came out in the police Investigation she had issues with alcoholism and a month before she went missing a welfare check was called to her home. Here in the UK you get a welfare check if there is serious concerns about your mental health normally its because you are danger to yourself. The police and ambulance service come to your home.

The whole thing shocked the British public however I found family's behaviour odd especially when they were tv constantly mentioning how she will never abandon her kids and how everything is going well in her. I felt they were too defensive had they been honest about her vulnerabilities she could have been found time maybe as the officers would have adopted a different approach to finding her.

The stigma of suicide is still far worse than going missing.

UK seems very American in that regard, we don't have that here. It might make the news if its a child for obvious reasons.
Disappearing usually leaves the bereaved with hope, which I think is far worse.

I personally really don't are if suicide is stigmatized or not, It will not concern me anyway :-)

 

[ilikesharksandblue]

Suicide by drowning seems scary imo

 

[Fraggle77]

@Gonnerr before the body was found The UK police in the beginning told the public that she fell in the river. The British public gave the police such a hard time, accusing them lying and everyone started behaving like a detective. People from different towns and cities in the UK were even visiting the place where she went missing to look for "clues. "

On social media the British public were scrutinising everything in her life, her relationship, her job etc and were been going through all her Facebook posts.Her disappearance has been subject to multiple conspiracy theories. The theories on social media are absolutely disgusting.The family were even getting social media abuse and harassment from the social media true crime community. It waa disgusting.

The theories are the following:

- Her husband killed her even though the police have evidence he was working all day the day she disappeared. The fact the husband wasn't crying and breaking down on his SKY news appearance people think he killed her. I watched his appearance on chanel 5 news and it is so clear this man is devastated his partner is missing and cant explain to his kids where their mother is. His eyes show his pain and hurt. It is so clear he deeply loves his partner

- the husband and Nicola Bulley sister are having an affair and they both killed her

- Nicola bulley faked her disappearance to start a new life
- Nicola, the husband and family all colluded to fake her missing to get money and fame.
- others think she killed herself
- Many people believe think she was abducted. My mum believes this too.

Going missing there is no dignity. The police were right the entire time that she drowned as her body surfaced later in the river. The way the public and media too in how they treated the police was disgusting. The police deserve an apology.

I feel the police were damned whatever they did in the Nicola Bulley case. Social media detectives played a crucial part in this. It's a shame because her children will have acces to all this nonsense online in years to come.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Hmmm- yeah- but is the hope to make it less traumatic for your family? So- presumably- to make it look convincing- you just go missing one day. Then- your family will worry about that and eventually call the police. Then- they might be able to retrace your steps and find your body. What will your family think though? Why were you even by that stretch of water- if it isn't your usual behaviour? Do you think they won't even consider suicide?

With the lady you mentioned- I'm guessing that wasn't unusual behaviour for her to walk her dog there. It was possible that it was accidental but people will still suspect suicide and even foul play. In some ways, I wonder if it would be worse not knowing. If the police can't find a body- they could suspect anything. Even your family might come under suspicion in this case- many murders are commited by someone the person knew.

I don't know- I've just never imagined these plans to eventually create less grief and distress for a family. I imagine everyone will certainly consider it being a suicide anyway. Plus- if they can trace your digital footprint- it's all here now as well that you were considering this.

Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. I do admire it when people want to spare their families grief. I just wish there was a way to do it.