Drinking SN with a Sore Throat from smoking too much

[losing hope]

I smoke ALOT of weed (mixed with tobacco) to the point I am now developing a permanently sore throat from all that smoke. Might be the first stages of throat cancer?

My ctb method is SN which I understand will feel a bit sting-ey and uncomfortable when drinking it at the best of times. Therefore does have any insight into how drinking SN with early throat cancer might work in reality? Even better does anyone know of a heavy smoker, who had a sore throat / early signs of throat cancer, yet were still able to drink their SN on here?

Obviously I hope I there are some case studies out their which will give me confidence to do this as I can't be the only smoker who will / has ctb'ed with SN.

 

[Loserparasite]

I'm not sure, but I've seen talk about throat-numbing sprays to help with the taste, just an idea though.

 

[Lulzacruel]

the only real problem i can think of is that your vomiting threshold might be lower if your throat is that irritated

that can be fixed with antiemetics tho

you might want to also use throat numbing spray or a nsaid to help you with inflammation

 

[losing hope]

the only real problem i can think of is that your vomiting threshold might be lower if your throat is that irritated

that can be fixed with antiemetics tho

you might want to also use throat numbing spray or a nsaid to help you with inflammation

Will try to get AE's & throat spray if poss. But the sore throat from smoking seems too deep down in my throat for the spray to hit it. Maybe if I swallow the spray, then it would it the spot being careful not to OD on the stuff as I saw that youtube vid of the guy who drank too much mouth numbing spray to help him win a eating spicy food competition.

It also feels like if I numb / cool my throat as much as poss that might help with the irriation. Like swallowing iced cold water or some ice cream beforehand?

 

[Lulzacruel]

It also feels like if I numb / cool my throat as much as poss that might help with the irriation. Like swallowing iced cold water or some ice cream beforehand?

That is fine if you know what helps you. You can test that.

Maybe if I swallow the spray

Follow as directed. You WILL regret doing that if you swallow too much. Test out and make sure that it is ABSOLUTELY necessary to swallow any portion

 

[Altalune]

Try a pastille. You can get them easily at drugstores.

 

[Lost Magic]

throat numbing spray (as others have suggested) and Orajel extra strength gel and coat it over your tongue.

 

[Old Friend]

I smoke ALOT of weed (mixed with tobacco) to the point I am now developing a permanently sore throat from all that smoke. Might be the first stages of throat cancer?

It maybe a bit too far down the line for you but would you consider knocking the weed on the head? There's no guarantee but it might be a big culprit in your desire to cbt. I'd say there's little to lose, so it's worth a shot but it's up to yourself, obviously.

 

[losing hope]

It maybe a bit too far down the line for you but would you consider knocking the weed on the head? There's no guarantee but it might be a big culprit in your desire to cbt. I'd say there's little to lose, so it's worth a shot but it's up to yourself, obviously.

I'm actually doing a month detox starting today as I try too kick the habit (staying at my sisters so can't smoke it there). Will see if I still want to CTB & have found a reason to live after this month is up. Obviously if I choose life, then will try & kick the weed habit permenantly. Weed is a bit like booze, in that once I made my decision to CTB & that life isn't for me (for the same reasons Kurt Cobain & Chester Bennington decided to ctb). Weed helps numbs that path to getting the guts to ctb & weakening my body for the SN. Which is part of the reason I am addicted to it ATM.

In short, if there is a bigger better offer than Ctb'ing & smoking weed, happy to try that. But been looking for that for 5 years now & getting really tired now of not seeming to find it. So you can understand why I'm called "losing hope"


For anyone else with a simliar prob to the title, I also tend to find something sweet & creamy helps with the internal throat irriation. Like allowing a piece of chocolate melt in your tongue & then letting the melted chocolate run down your throat. That seems to help me sleep after my throat is sore after a long day smoking.

Also worried about getting a heart attack during the SN trial (due to my clogged blood veins from the sugar in the "muchies" & tar in the tobacco). As well as potential breathing problems in my final moments of unconsciousness after taking the SN, due to my heavy smoking. There seems to be some debate with SN, whether the person finds the laboured breathing aspect of it "uncomfortable" or whether their are not conscious by that point.

Hopefully weaking my heart / lungs & blood veins via smoking will help me ctb even more with SN? Don't care if I die via a heart attack (which might be more painful) or the SN itself, as long as I CTB on that day. I only have 50g's of IC product left, with little prospect of getting more SN. So really need to make my 50g's count.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Hopefully weaking my heart / lungs & blood veins via smoking will help me ctb even more with SN? Don't care if I die via a heart attack (which might be more painful) or the SN itself, as long as I CTB on that day. I only have 50g's of IC product left, with little prospect of getting more SN. So really need to make my 50g's count.

Some of the medical articles I've seen outline that some people die of cardiac arrest instead of Heart attack from Sn whence why heart palpitations are a symptom although one particular case of a 76 year old man went into Brady-asystolic arrest instead, and even though he got to the hospital, given M-blue as well, he died anyway. It seems that the complications arising from Methomoglobinemia induced Cardiopulmonary arrest is difficult to treat hence why those who develop cardiac arrest after sn ingestion do not have any good chances of survival after that and anyway, I wouldn't to after I've crossed that point.

Given my current heart conditions and that I have to take a beta-blocker each day, well I could die from Acute respiratory failure secondary to SN poisoning or even cardiac arrest even before hypoxia can do it.

given your history of smoking, not sure how your breathing will be affected while you are conscious so it could be factor from a respiratory function standpoint

 

[sorin]

It's simple to test, take a teaspoon of raw table salt, let it melt a bit in your mouth than swallow, it works even better if you have kosher salt. Sn will be diluted in water so it's less iritating, but the raw salt will give you an idea of the maximum possible discomfort you can have in mouth and esophagus. Of course the stomach pain will be a bit different since that comes not only from the irritation, but also from muscle spasms that appear when you ingest poison.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

It's simple to test, take a teaspoon of raw table salt, let it melt a bit in your mouth than swallow, it works even better if you have kosher salt. The feeling will be almost the same with sn.

Really?
Although SN has a bit of heat to it if I may add, i think that's what intensities it's taste so much so that some people find it unbearable.

 

[losing hope]

given your history of smoking, not sure how your breathing will be affected while you are conscious so it could be factor from a respiratory function standpoint

I'd say my breathing capacity is probably 80% of what it used to be. So I don't quite think it is bad enough to prevent me from taking the SN (yet). Although I did consider exit bag as a method & felt my lack of lung capacity would be a factor in failing to expel all the air from my lungs to undertake this method. Might just get a doctors test on my lung capacity nearer the time. Essentially what I am trying to find out is, will reduced lung capacity (via heavy smoking) help or hinder one's attempt to pass out quickly from SN?

It seems that the complications arising from Methomoglobinemia induced Cardiopulmonary arrest is difficult to treat hence why those who develop cardiac arrest after sn ingestion do not have any good chances of survival after that and anyway, I wouldn't to after I've crossed that point.

Might just eat lots of fatty high cholesterol foods in the weeks prior to SN, just to weaken my heart that little bit more, given the above. Then go for a run / simliar activity to get my heart beat as high as it could be just prior to taking the SN. Will def go on an iron diet in the week/s prior to SN b'cause the more complications = less chance of survival.

It's simple to test, take a teaspoon of raw table salt, let it melt a bit in your mouth than swallow, it works even better if you have kosher salt.

Ta. Might just try that & let you know how I get on.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Might just eat lots of fatty high cholesterol foods in the weeks prior to SN, just to weaken my heart that little bit more, given the above. Then go for a run / simliar activity to get my heart beat as high as it could be just prior to taking the SN. Will def go on an iron diet in the week/s prior to SN b'cause the more complications = less chance of survival.

With anything you will try to do, I'd advise you are careful as possible. If you aren't use to your heart at 130bpm+ then it'll be a concern for you since it may aid in kicking your si into overdrive hence why some people incorporate a beta-blocker into their regimen.

Yeah, the more complications you have, the less chances you have overall of survival in any capacity. Anyone who has anemia, blood disorders, cardiovascular issues as an underlying issue, it'll be exacerbate the toxicity of sn no doubt so maybe that because of your smoking, it could've affected your respiratory system and your heart too although I don't know what to degree.

Although I did consider exit bag as a method & felt my lack of lung capacity would be a factor in failing to expel all the air from my lungs to undertake this method

Understandable considering the circumstances.

Essentially what I am trying to find out is, will reduced lung capacity (via heavy smoking) help or hinder one's attempt to pass out quickly from SN?

Very interesting question but to get an answer would require a medical mind who is familiar of the effects of Methomoglobinemia and if reduced lung capacity will either hasten or slow down the onset of unconsciousness. That is something I unfortunately cannot answer for you but this is why I have benzos to compensate for this, a quicker pass out time and eventually dying from that point onward whilst being absolutely out of it or at least thats the idea I've gotten from people who've benzos with sn and did ctb, I'd like to think they didn't feel much of anything but I won't ever know.