Discussion Don't give out sources or instruction

[dewasrite]

I understand where you are coming from however, I am almost 50 and I would love some instructions and help myself .I have read the threads and guides ECT but still find it confusing..Especially the hanging one. It just doesn't seem very detailed or descriptive to me at all. But no one wants to be responsible for a minors death. This is a CTB forum though and I just think some of us of would love a little more help ourselves.

This. Thank you. I am also 50, new to the site and have tried to engage with other people to learn as much as I can. Obviously I don't want to attempt but not succeed and make things worse for myself and everyone else. My first post was met with a response that read as very very mean and I didn't feel welcome at all. I have also had questions completely ignored, that only made me feel way more alienated than I do irl which is insane. I am genuinely disappointed that I have not been able to feel comfortable/confident enough to ask my questions about suicide, on a suicide discussion website. I guess I am "not smart enough" to "do my own research" (I feel like first hand accounts are good research?), Or maybe I am creating posts that sound "immature" (which I have also seen described as "emotional").

 

[idontknowwhatiam]

This. Thank you. I am also 50, new to the site and have tried to engage with other people to learn as much as I can. Obviously I don't want to attempt but not succeed and make things worse for myself and everyone else. My first post was met with a response that read as very very mean and I didn't feel welcome at all. I have also had questions completely ignored, that only made me feel way more alienated than I do irl which is insane. I am genuinely disappointed that I have not been able to feel comfortable/confident enough to ask my questions about suicide, on a suicide discussion website. I guess I am "not smart enough" to "do my own research" (I feel like first hand accounts are good research?), Or maybe I am creating posts that sound "immature" (which I have also seen described as "emotional").

Please feel free to ask me anything and I'll do my best to accurately answer. Welcome!

 

[CatLvr]

This. Thank you. I am also 50, new to the site and have tried to engage with other people to learn as much as I can. Obviously I don't want to attempt but not succeed and make things worse for myself and everyone else. My first post was met with a response that read as very very mean and I didn't feel welcome at all. I have also had questions completely ignored, that only made me feel way more alienated than I do irl which is insane. I am genuinely disappointed that I have not been able to feel comfortable/confident enough to ask my questions about suicide, on a suicide discussion website. I guess I am "not smart enough" to "do my own research" (I feel like first hand accounts are good research?), Or maybe I am creating posts that sound "immature" (which I have also seen described as "emotional").

Yeah ... You can't take it personal. The OGs here can sound grumpy and feel off-putting but they are really a pretty okay bunch of kids. (You would be shocked to find that there are an awful lot of "kids" -- 18-30 -- here.) I'm an old lady and sometimes they will lash out (don't understand why I have the thoughts, ideas, philosophies I do) and other times they have been unexpectedly kind and wonderful and supportive.

Additionally, you will not find a better staff (Admin and Mods) on another forum anywhere on the internet. Many of those folks are way younger than me, also, but they are wise beyond their years. This place is actually why I am in recovery -- not a therapist, or psych ward, or handfuls of meds, but the members here.

You will be okay. Some days will be kinda rough and other days you will marvel at the kindness and empathy you find here. Just gotta remember none of us are here because life has been a picnic -- and maybe someone has sounded mean when they really didn't mean to.

Finally, there ARE people here who are NOT pro-choice. So ... If someone is particularly harsh when you ask a question, it may be they have ulterior motives. Just throwing that out there. (Oh and btw, I am almost 70. Lol)

 

[BradGuy123]

Yeah but you can't know for sure if they are underage. The parents thing doesn't mean anything as many still live with their parents (including me). The language also doesn't has to mean anything as people are different and some aren't fluent in English or have some disability. And ofc someone 20 can be somewhat similar to someone underage

True!! So agree with you. At the same time a minor can talk mature or an adult can talk immature. It also is hard to ban someone possibly being underage, when there's no direct proof.
However, this site obviously isn't for immature, very unstable people. It says that in the TOS too... So yeah.

Also I didn't see a post before which seemed immature or made me think the person is underage yet. So I might not really know how those posts can look like

That's a very good point. I think you're right. There's no way for us to know they are underage by their words or by them mentioning living with their parents. So, there is no way for an admin to know. Someone else commented that it's up to the parents to monitor their children's internet usage. I couldn't agree more. Several states in the USA have passed laws requiring porn sites to make users submit government ID to sign up. A lot of people aren't going to do that. Age requirements are part of terms of service here, but if a minor signs up it's not the site's fault. It's the parents' fault for not checking their child or teen's browsing history. I don't think we should censor what we post here because some minor ignored the terms of service and decided to register. That being said, I'd feel horrible if my words helped or encouraged a minor to ctb.

 

[louboutinsuicide]

isn't this a help forum what's the point if the substances that cause the least amount of pain ethical quote on quote death aren't accessible

 

[dewasrite]

Yeah ... You can't take it personal. The OGs here can sound grumpy and feel off-putting but they are really a pretty okay bunch of kids. (You would be shocked to find that there are an awful lot of "kids" -- 18-30 -- here.) I'm an old lady and sometimes they will lash out (don't understand why I have the thoughts, ideas, philosophies I do) and other times they have been unexpectedly kind and wonderful and supportive.

Additionally, you will not find a better staff (Admin and Mods) on another forum anywhere on the internet. Many of those folks are way younger than me, also, but they are wise beyond their years. This place is actually why I am in recovery -- not a therapist, or psych ward, or handfuls of meds, but the members here.

You will be okay. Some days will be kinda rough and other days you will marvel at the kindness and empathy you find here. Just gotta remember none of us are here because life has been a picnic -- and maybe someone has sounded mean when they really didn't mean to.

Finally, there ARE people here who are NOT pro-choice. So ... If someone is particularly harsh when you ask a question, it may be they have ulterior motives. Just throwing that out there. (Oh and btw, I am almost 70. Lol)

Thank you so much for this! I can't even say how much it helps. I really appreciate that you took the time

Please feel free to ask me anything and I'll do my best to accurately answer. Welcome!

Thank you so much. I appreciate it and will absolutely remember you said that!

 

[FaultyCepheus]

This. Thank you. I am also 50, new to the site and have tried to engage with other people to learn as much as I can. Obviously I don't want to attempt but not succeed and make things worse for myself and everyone else. My first post was met with a response that read as very very mean and I didn't feel welcome at all. I have also had questions completely ignored, that only made me feel way more alienated than I do irl which is insane. I am genuinely disappointed that I have not been able to feel comfortable/confident enough to ask my questions about suicide, on a suicide discussion website. I guess I am "not smart enough" to "do my own research" (I feel like first hand accounts are good research?), Or maybe I am creating posts that sound "immature" (which I have also seen described as "emotional").

Unfortunately it does depend on whos online. A lot of people on here are super informed and some of us only know bits so dont know how to be helpful. Ill never understand people being horrible in a forum full of suicidal/recovering people though like we're in the same boat just scroll?? Hopefully you find some nicer people on here as ive met many

 

[dewasrite]

Unfortunately it does depend on whos online. A lot of people on here are super informed and some of us only know bits so dont know how to be helpful. Ill never understand people being horrible in a forum full of suicidal/recovering people though like we're in the same boat just scroll?? Hopefully you find some nicer people on here as ive met many

Exactly!! It's way easier to just ignore a post than it is to respond for the sole purpose of being an ass. Honestly I was mostly disappointed because I did notice right away that this does seem to be a very supportive community where people (seem to) have made real connections with one another. I guess I hoped that could happen for me as well, since I really can't seem to accomplish that in real life

 

[FaultyCepheus]

You absolutely can once you post more to be honest especially in the recovery and off topic spaces as its less tense there its a great place to chat about music and life so a lot easier to connect :)

 

[Dejected 55]

Yeah, for me I try to only answer questions about methods where I have some experience or feel confident in my knowledge. Otherwise I point people to look around for existing threads that were posted by more knowledgeable people than myself on those topics. I'm not "refusing to help" so much as I'm recognizing others can answer the specific question better than I.