Discussion Don't be afraid of death

[CrazyMary]

Mind altering drugs that mess with your brain are not reliable methods for knowing if gods or spirits exist. All it shows is how easily the brain can be manipulated into seeing or experiencing things, which demonstrates that experiences of supernatural things can be unreliable as well. Seems like a good reason to remain an atheist to me. Just sayin.

And in some cases they can trigger some mental disorders, I have done Ayahuasca, Peyote, DMT, LSD and I ended up again at the shrink. She told me those experiences might have triggered my current suicidal tendencies and my borderline disorder, so who knows what we really see. It felt real at the moment, but also dreams feel like that.

 

[WornOutLife]

Life has no meaning, except for the preservation of the human species, which I am absolutely not interested in. Humans are just one of many biological ways of life that developed by chance.

Such amazing words. I really like this part although I don't agree 100%.
I think life has no meaning too. Humans are just trying to find a purpose but it all feels empty to me. (you know, having children, working as a slave, studying, getting married, etc).

However, one reason to live I could accept would be to find out where the hell EVERYTHING came from. We might be the product of evolution just like Darwin suggested but how can something come from nothing? This question is what made me realize I'm not an atheist but an agnostic. I can't be 100% sure about anything.

Still, if I had to take a chance and go for some afterlife theories I'd say there are two options:

1) Once we're dead, we log out from this simulation and wake up in the real world, understanding the purpose of everything.

2) Death is just eternal nothingness, just like the time before we were born.

I may be wrong, I may be right. Who knows? Once when we're gone like Dani, we'll find it out.

Anyway, he was a fantastic member from SS. I wish I could've talked to him more.

 

[Endeavour]

Such amazing words. I really like this part although I don't agree 100%.
I think life has no meaning too. Humans are just trying to find a purpose but it all feels empty to me. (you know, having children, working as a slave, studying, getting married, etc).

However, one reason to live I could accept would be to find out where the hell EVERYTHING came from. We might be the product of evolution just like Darwin suggested but how can something come from nothing? This question is what made me realize I'm not an atheist but an agnostic. I can't be 100% sure about anything.

Still, if I had to take a chance and go for some afterlife theories I'd say there are two options:

1) Once we're dead, we log out from this simulation and wake up in the real world, understanding the purpose of everything.

2) Death is just eternal nothingness, just like the time before we were born.

I may be wrong, I may be right. Who knows? Once when we're gone like Dani, we'll find it out.

Anyway, he was a fantastic member from SS. I wish I could've talked to him more.

I think your 2 options are the only 2 real possibilities. I am more prone to believe the second, but the first I also think about some times.

In either case I think it might be a good idea to get out of here asap.

 

[WornOutLife]

Here I am again, reading this amazing thread.
Dani's thoughts and opinions were the best.
I wish I could've talked to him much more.

All those who fear death should certainly read this!

 

[All Things Must Pass]

I'm afraid of life, not death lol.

 

[xrafinha]

Here I am again, reading this amazing thread.
Dani's thoughts and opinions were the best.
I wish I could've talked to him much more.

All those who fear death should certainly read this!

I wish I could read more of Dani's posts, but when I click on his nick it says "Ops, we ran into some problems".

Is that because I'm new to the forum?

 

[WornOutLife]

I wish I could read more of Dani's posts, but when I click on his nick it says "Ops, we ran into some problems".

Is that because I'm new to the forum?

No, it's not! His profile is not available anymore.

However, you can use the search tool and type "LetzteAusfahrt".

You'll find some of his replies (which were quite awesome too) and threads there!

 

[FuneralCry]

I remember reading this thread when I first came on the forum and I'm glad that people are still commenting on it. Death makes all life meaningless and it brings me such comfort knowing that whatever happens this will all be over and we will have eternal nothingness. No more consciousness, no more suffering, just nothing and it is the best feeling.

 

[color_me_gone]

I remember reading this thread when I first came on the forum and I'm glad that people are still commenting on it. Death makes all life meaningless and it brings me such comfort knowing that whatever happens this will all be over and we will have eternal nothingness. No more consciousness, no more suffering, just nothing and it is the best feeling.

No more happiness, no more sadness pain and suffering.
If the latter exceeds the former in your life, then nothingness is a net plus.
That's how I look at it.

 

[LansJ70]

Death makes all life meaningless

This is a great way to put it.

The original post by Dani is quite amazing, very thought provoking and philosophical. He seems like he was an incredible guy.

 

[DasEnde]

Jeah that post is phenomenal, I have to save it. He was truly insightful and put it to words so beautifully.

 

[apathetic.]

Not afraid of death either. Death is a blessing to escape this nightmare of a life. Thank you for this post. <3

 

[Amacko]

This helped

 

[Chockles]

I'm afraid of sleep
Not sure why as had insomnia issues my entire life
Hsvent slept more than 2hrs a night now avg for 10 months
I'm more afraid however of staying alive now in agony.
I need to find courage to get & use golden ticket out of here soon
This is eternal hell.

 

[samras]

From an atheist's point of view

I am asked again and again why I have such a relaxed relationship with death, why I will intentionally take SN without medication in order to remain conscious as long as possible and experience my dying with a clear mind. Why I am not afraid of it and am really looking forward to it.

I see my dying as something beautiful that I can unfortunately only experience once. The thought of it makes me happy, so I want to be able to enjoy the process. The knowledge that my body is poisoned and will soon no longer work, which is commonly described as dead.

I can't remember ever being afraid of death. At the age of 15 it was already clear to me that I would kill myself and not die of old age.

As long as I can remember I have been aware of what life and death are. That life has nothing to do with God or soul or a higher power. That nothing comes after life, including death.

Life ends with the destruction of my brain because that's where my life takes place. As a perfect interplay of biological, electrical and chemical processes.

Like everyone else, I always knew that one day I would die. So I did a lot of it and didn't suppress it. The thought of death has accompanied me all my life, has become a friend to me.

That's how I dealt with life. What it actually is, what the meaning of life is.

Life has no meaning, except for the preservation of the human species, which I am absolutely not interested in. Humans are just one of many biological ways of life that developed by chance.

So life has no meaning for me, no value. The effort to make something like this pointless is not worth the return because there is no return.

I cannot take anything with me, not even the knowledge that I am dead. As with all higher living beings, the parents have fulfilled their task as individuals after the conception and rearing of enough offspring.

That man became so intelligent that he considered himself too valuable for this simple task and looked for important reasons for his existence, was not planned.

It is therefore not surprising that every "normal" person believes he knows very well that life is the most valuable thing he has. But no one can provide a meaningful explanation for what is so valuable in life.

When I die I don't lose anything because life is worthless.

When I die, I gain nothing because nothing more comes, nothing is anymore.

So I don't exchange anything for anything, but I don't have to struggle with the meaningless life anymore.

That's why I have no problem with very young people killing themselves. I have to admit, it hurts me infinitely 5 when a teenager kills himself. But that's just a brief flare-up of instincts in me that are difficult to control.

Once I have realized this instinct and have it under control through rational thinking, I see the happiness that has come to them. That they are not caught and tortured in their meaningless life for years or decades and then die after all.

This is by far the most powerful message I have come across on this site.

 

[Eternal Oblivion]

This is by far the most powerful message I have come across on this site.

And to think he did CTB exacly the way he said he would, he believed his own words.

 

[samras]

And to think he did CTB exacly the way he said he would, he believed his own words.

Absolutely, he is such an inspiration. I really wish I had got to know him.

THIS IS BY FAR THE GREATEST POST EVER WRITTEN.

I completely agree, he is such an inspiration. So honest, intelligent and deeply moving.

 

[Worndown]

He was a great guy. He left on his terms.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Sorry, I am not convinced by this post. If someone enjoys life it does´t matter whether it is meaningful or not, he or she just has fun. And it is not true, that you don´t loose anything when you kill yourself, you loose lifetime. Only for a very small minority there are more negative aspects of life than positive ones. Only if the movie of your life is too bad you rather leave the cinema than watch it until the end. Why I am in this forum? I am old, I just want to spare me the credits of the film.
I also have the impression that the guy appreciates death for its own sake. This is something a masochist like me understands very well. But from this point of view, death only matters if life is meaningful.

 

[D&D]

He viewed life and death through the lenses of beauty and philosophy. It is a noble way.

 

[Eternal Oblivion]

Sorry, I am not convinced by this post. If someone enjoys life it does´t matter whether it is meaningful or not, he or she just has fun. And it is not true, that you don´t loose anything when you kill yourself, you loose lifetime. Only for a very small minority there are more negative aspects of life than positive ones. Only if the movie of your life is too bad you rather leave the cinema than watch it until the end. Why I am in this forum? I am old, I just want to spare me the credits of the film.
I also have the impression that the guy appreciates death for its own sake. This is something a masochist like me understands very well. But from this point of view, death only matters if life is meaningful.

I don't think anybody would kill themselfs just for the sake of it. We all got our motives to be here.

 

[Ἡγησίας]

If this forum is going to be cancelled I want to remember this post as my favourite one ever. We still remember you, friend.

 

[Of The Universe]

From an atheist's point of view

I am asked again and again why I have such a relaxed relationship with death, why I will intentionally take SN without medication in order to remain conscious as long as possible and experience my dying with a clear mind. Why I am not afraid of it and am really looking forward to it.

I see my dying as something beautiful that I can unfortunately only experience once. The thought of it makes me happy, so I want to be able to enjoy the process. The knowledge that my body is poisoned and will soon no longer work, which is commonly described as dead.

I can't remember ever being afraid of death. At the age of 15 it was already clear to me that I would kill myself and not die of old age.

As long as I can remember I have been aware of what life and death are. That life has nothing to do with God or soul or a higher power. That nothing comes after life, including death.

Life ends with the destruction of my brain because that's where my life takes place. As a perfect interplay of biological, electrical and chemical processes.

Like everyone else, I always knew that one day I would die. So I did a lot of it and didn't suppress it. The thought of death has accompanied me all my life, has become a friend to me.

That's how I dealt with life. What it actually is, what the meaning of life is.

Life has no meaning, except for the preservation of the human species, which I am absolutely not interested in. Humans are just one of many biological ways of life that developed by chance.

So life has no meaning for me, no value. The effort to make something like this pointless is not worth the return because there is no return.

I cannot take anything with me, not even the knowledge that I am dead. As with all higher living beings, the parents have fulfilled their task as individuals after the conception and rearing of enough offspring.

That man became so intelligent that he considered himself too valuable for this simple task and looked for important reasons for his existence, was not planned.

It is therefore not surprising that every "normal" person believes he knows very well that life is the most valuable thing he has. But no one can provide a meaningful explanation for what is so valuable in life.

When I die I don't lose anything because life is worthless.

When I die, I gain nothing because nothing more comes, nothing is anymore.

So I don't exchange anything for anything, but I don't have to struggle with the meaningless life anymore.

That's why I have no problem with very young people killing themselves. I have to admit, it hurts me infinitely 5 when a teenager kills himself. But that's just a brief flare-up of instincts in me that are difficult to control.

Once I have realized this instinct and have it under control through rational thinking, I see the happiness that has come to them. That they are not caught and tortured in their meaningless life for years or decades and then die after all.

One of the most legendary SS people! He was ultra intelligent, but couldn't hack relationships. His goodbye thread may help inspire you,if you have chosen ctb.
Me,I am torn,but I dk how I can live out my life. Its over. So I try and draw strength from this Swiss gay!

 

[bad luck]

amazing post.

lenz was amazing

 

[Ἡγησίας]

It was hard to find this post but I needed to read it again in order to feel comforted.

 

[silas0]

Wow I was touched by this …