Venting Doesn’t feel like a safe space for suffering people anymore

[FuneralCry]

This place feels like it's declining to me, it became too pro-life rather than a safe space for those who suffer. But sadly this is what happens and I'm not even surprised as we exist in such a cruel, horrible world, it just makes me wish for the peace of non-existence even more. Only ceasing to exist is beautiful to me as existing is nothing but suffering and if you wish to be free from all the suffering you will be made to feel worse for it.

Only death can bring me peace from the pain of existing, if peaceful methods like Nembutal became accessible I'd be so relieved as I don't want to suffer in any way, I only want to eternally cease existing. I only wish for the eternity of death to erase everything, all that's desirable to me is this existence peacefully disappearing into nothingness. Humans are the worst species and are an abomination, so awful how they just create way more suffering, I'd be glad to permanently be free from the curse of existence, everywhere is so pro-life, it's all the same.

 

[Meteora]

What has changed? I first joined last summer and started to be more active a couple of months ago.
What are pro lifers for you? I read it a lot and I don't know exactely who these pro lifers are. Probably people who want to give you advice instead of listening to your suffering?

 

[W3akCr3atur3]

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[DreamEnd]

How do you know there are pro lifers on here if by your own admittance you don't even read the replies to the posts on here?

 

[W3akCr3atur3]

How do you know there are pro lifers on here if by your own admittance you don't even read the replies to the posts on here?

Are those pro lifers in the same room as you right now?

 

[R_N]

You said yourself that you barely read what we say so how do you know for a fact?

Every day I see people here in pain and some went through unimaginable things. If you payed more attention maybe you would see how many are suffering just like you if not more.

Don't say things like that if you have any empathy in you.

 

[Final_Choice]

I joined last year but only starting to get more active now, so maybe I just haven't seen enough but I can't say the same. I will admit that I've seen people who are more pro-choice than 100% being pro-death, but that's to be expected since people can have different views on suicide. I can't say I've seen someone pro-life, though I would not be surprised if there are a few in hiding or something like that.

 

[W3akCr3atur3]

I will admit that I've seen people who are more pro-choice than 100% being pro-death, but that's to be expected since people can have different views on suicide.

Pro-death is actually forbidden. It's a pro-choice forum. Well, it's supposed to be

 

[Life_and_Death]

Don't say things like that if you have any empathy in you.

unless it involves death being available to all (questionable if thats just so they can have it themselves), i dont think they have any. but we have to have it for them despite the spam. not one sided at all

 

[Final_Choice]

Pro-death is actually forbidden. It's a pro-choice forum. Well, it's supposed to be

I know, but considering how this is one of the only places for someone who is pro-choice it's also one of the only places for someone who is completely pro-death, so of course you have people with those beliefs on here as well.

 

[Malaria]

I've been lurking here ever since you-know-who made that video about this website and I joined very recently. Everyone so far has been very kind and compassionate to me, and trust me, I've had people treat me in a very unkind way when I've expressed my suicidal ideation. Maybe my feelings will change one day, but right now I feel like I've found a pretty good safe space to vent my feelings.

Sure, there probably are some trolls and malicious people on this site, but I think that's to be expected with any large community.

You're entitled to your opinion though, I understand where you're coming from, and I can relate to a lot of the things you post on this forum even if I don't always agree with you.

 

[Chinaski]

Even this website is not free from pro lifers, as well as other examples, there are those who want to 'gatekeep' suicide (only a certain age and amount of suffering) and those who push the idea that 'there is hope if you are young' 'things will get better' which can be invalidating and does not reflect the unpredictable and uncertain reality of existence.

This post is pretty much the same thing and it's twenty months old

 

[walkingdead2023]

I wish I'm a pro lifer or whatever "title" you have for normal people!! I really want to die but I don't know how.. I'm jealous from those normal people who are enjoying life and I will never motivate anyone to die.. yes, eventually everyone will die but in order to kms is out of order.. I being living in the darkness for sometime.. although I work and live faking I'm normal but I'm not.. I think my depression is getting worse..

 

[divinemistress36]

This is getting old..

 

[LaVieEnRose]

Since you by your own admission are stuck in existence for now, you could use your ample time to learn to build your own website. And you probably don't even have to leave your room! That way you can rule it in your image and ban anyone who inadvertently says they enjoy ice cream or something.

 

[walkingdead2023]

Since you by your own admission are stuck in existence for now, you could use your ample time to learn to build your own website. And you probably don't even have to leave your room! That way you can rule it in your image and ban anyone who inadvertently says they enjoy ice cream or something.

lol I love it!

 

[CursedReality88]

You make a dozen threads a day and most of them usually get replies that support you. I think you should try to focus on the positive a bit more while we still exist.

 

[R_N]

You make a dozen threads a day and most of them usually get replies that support you. I think you should try to focus on the positive a bit more while we still exist.

Sometimes I feel guilty if I feel comfortable here because of the nature of the place.

But like you said, we don't have to be miserable all the time until our end.

 

[PixelPlant]

i don't believe that OP is a real person..

 

[Exiled]

Ok, ok. I know. I've been a little on the offense at you, FC. I understand. This was a safe place for you at some point and it doesn't seem to feel that way for you at the moment. I'm sorry that is the case. I think that this website has definitely gotten a lot more traction for better or for worse, and it will of course invite a lot of different opinions with it. The concept of SS is shocking, and some (myself included) might not be pro-life but still have extreme amounts of empathy that prevent them from being completely promortalist. It's just the reality of it.

There are other parts of the website that have a little more privacy, as I'm sure you're aware. Perhaps post your feelings there if it feels safer? Those people have had accounts for longer, and are not accessible by guests. Or perhaps develop relationships with people over private messaging? I think you are definitely making this a lot more difficult than it needs to be for you. If it's really an uncomfy environment for you, but you still see the benefit of SS (which is perfectly understandable), I would shift your approach. Unfortunately, making these posts are just going to continue to turn others off to you. And these posts will continue to just get mob-mentality (I've been guilty of it.)

I do feel like this is kind of pointless for me to even say since I have never really seen you reply to criticism, advice, or really just any response on here at all. That being said, I'm not sure how you could be bothered if you don't even look at what people say?

I'm not trying to attack you; sorry if it is perceived that way. But I am frustrated, as well as a lot of the community, at your lack of addressing any of the effort we put into trying to give your posts a reply. Some of us post on here, and no one bats an eye or offers their perspective. Seems like you get a lot of interaction- perhaps giving that back will help others understand you better and fix the issue that is bothering you.

 

[Life_and_Death]

at the moment.

at the moment? when theyve been making the same types of threads basically copied and pasted for months??
when the site got to me and i felt rejected i left for several months then came back. not ripped on it every day

 

[Proteus]

Pro-death is actually forbidden. It's a pro-choice forum. Well, it's supposed to be

It's more a free speech forum about suicide with legal rules. Encouraging someone to die is forbidden, but expressing pro-death views without inciting anyone breaks no rules.

 

[cupcakesandmilk]

If you do give us an example of even one pro-life person on here, I'll eat all my crayons...

 

[Exiled]

at the moment? when theyve been making the same types of threads basically copied and pasted for months??
when the site got to me and i felt rejected i left for several months then came back. not ripped on it every day

Yeah, I get that. I am trying to have grace and understanding that everyone copes with/responds to situations differently and perhaps FC is finding some sort of release in just venting here. I would also think that if a place was bringing so much strife to someone, that they WOULD walk away. But I guess I have also found comfort in spaces that felt toxic to me. I'm torn but also kind of over engaging with FC for a bit.

 

[walkingdead2023]

How do you know there are pro lifers on here if by your own admittance you don't even read the replies to the posts on here?

I'm sure she reads them

 

[DreamEnd]

I'm sure she reads them

She said she doesn't before.

 

[walkingdead2023]

She said she doesn't before.

Oh so she's too busy but she have time to write novels! I will never read all of that I feel like I'm having to read assignments here..

 

[ijustwishtodie]

You make a dozen threads a day and most of them usually get replies that support you. I think you should try to focus on the positive a bit more while we still exist.

Really? But most of her threads have people who don't support her. Hence the title of this thread

 

[W3akCr3atur3]

It's more a free speech forum about suicide with legal rules. Encouraging someone to die is forbidden, but expressing pro-death views without inciting anyone breaks no rules.

Isn't expressing pro-life views even without trying to stop people from CTBing not allowed? Genuinely curious.
Even if it's not, there's still a huge hypocrisy from FuneralCry, because this forum never meant to be pro-death, there's even a relatively big recovery section.
How does believing recovery is better than CTB in most of the cases make you a so disguising pro-lifer? And even if it does, is it worse than being active pro-death on pro-choice forum?

 

[DreamEnd]

Isn't expressing pro-life views even without trying to stop people from CTBing not allowed? Genuinely curious.
Even if it's not, there's still a huge hypocrisy from FuneralCry, because this forum never meant to be pro-death, there's even a relatively big recovery section.
How does believing recovery is better than CTB in most of the cases make you a so disguising pro-lifer? And even if it does, is it worse than being active pro-death on pro-choice forum?

Yes it makes no sense.

Pro death views shouldn't be allowed just like pro life views. You don't have to incite anyone to die directly by stating they should die. You can do so by preaching how pointless life is and how pointless recovery is and how everything is pointless and that it's better to just die. This isn't direct incitement but it can definitely tip a person over the edge.

Pro life views state that anyone under any circumstances should choose life over death. This isn't true and people get banned here for it. So why ban for one thing and not for the other which is probably way more dangerous since it can tip people over the edge who might recover?