Does anyone worry about what's on the other side?

[albstr1403]

Depending on who you ask, you may get punished if you ctb and sent to hell. You might get forgiven and sent to heaven. You might get reincarnated. You might just stop existing and that's all there is. You might just get reabsorbed back into source. You might become a ghost if you have unresolved energetic/emotional ties on earth.

It's just all so uncertain. DAE think about this?

 

[ImTelling]

Depending on who you ask, you may get punished if you ctb and sent to hell. You might get forgiven and sent to heaven. You might get reincarnated. You might just stop existing and that's all there is. You might just get reabsorbed back into source. You might become a ghost if you have unresolved energetic/emotional ties on earth.

It's just all so uncertain. DAE think about this?

I'm definitely afraid of Hell. I don't think God loves me anymore.

 

[ferrie]

I don't think I believe in any particular religion, but I still worry that there's a hell. It would be beyond cruel to ctb to try and find some peace only to end up in eternal torment

 

[Wilsonie_22]

I am quite happy regardless. The way I see it, there's three general main possibilities;

Non-existence. Materialism
If there is nothing, then it's peaceful; no pain, no suffering, no memory, no consequences. We were indeed just biological chemical bags of meat. And consciousness? its deepest and most perplexing aspects-- were nothing but chemicals.

Afterlife - Eastern thought
If the eastern school of thought is accurate, we reincarnate until we gather enough experience and/or wisdom to 'ascend'. The soul inhabits many physical bodies across many lifetimes. Suicidality leads to merely another similar reincarnation (hopefully better planned next time lol).

Afterlife - Western thought
If the Christians and Muslims are right, then suicide is a sin that may be forgivable by an almighty God. If you are not forgiven, you go to a place of torment for eternity (or a very long time).


I should note that despite the divisions I have made here between western and eastern schools of thought, it is a much more complex and nuanced topic. Western philosophy is nuanced. Eastern is also very varied.

 

[OblivionTurtle]

I used to worry about it a lot but not so much anymore. It's unlikely to be what any of the prevailing religions teach so I no longer let it worry me so much.

Death will just be another new experience. Could be good could be bad but I'm betting on oblivion and final peace.

 

[lkjhgfdsa1]

as I grew up catholic, I'd like to think there's something after this existence but the only logical option to me is there being nothing

and as I desperately try to get away from this existence, wouldn't that be a good thing

 

[invisiblesuffering]

Im worry about reincarnation. And i think its real. Think about it, i was once nothingness and then here i am. When i die im nothingness how to know this doesn't happen again?

 

[Sober4MostDays]

I don't. I assume I'll just be unconscious for eternity. I don't see how death could be anything else since I don't believe in anything supernatural at the end of the day. Nobody really knows though and I don't think anyone ever gets to know.

 

[LaughingGoat]

I know people often take it arrogant to say it like this but just saying reality bluntly as it is. It isn't uncertain. We know exactly what happens when someone dies, all biological functions eventually shut down meaning the person ceases to exist in any form besides flesh and bone. Once the brain ceases function, consciousness cannot exist. There has been no evidence or even logical reasoning to ever show differently. The argument that "we just don't know" so therefore something without any backing is true is not an argument people accept in other aspects of life outside religion/spiritualism/mysticism. If I say there is a specific alien race called the tarks which have visited earth, the response would be prove it not to blindly believe it. Yet with ghosts people willingly believe, despite the fact that hundreds of ghost hunters and mediums have failed to provide any evidence of their claims.

 

[divinemistress36]

Im convinced Earth is a hell realm

 

[Kalista]

Depending on who you ask, you may get punished if you ctb and sent to hell. You might get forgiven and sent to heaven. You might get reincarnated. You might just stop existing and that's all there is. You might just get reabsorbed back into source. You might become a ghost if you have unresolved energetic/emotional ties on earth.

It's just all so uncertain. DAE think about this?

not worried about it because i no longer believe in it. i used to be catholic. taught early that there's a heaven and hell -- "be good or suffer for an eternity in the burning fires of hell." until you eventually realize a lot of it is absolute nonsense and people let their lives be run by some ancient ass text/idea that was probably taken far too literally.

i only fantasize about reincarnation and fit it to my liking because i can. this is due to an isekai anime series that i've enjoyed.
i have also fantasized about haunting people who have wronged me for the rest of their damn lives, but that's about it.

Im convinced Earth is a hell realm

agreed. this world is far more hellish than the idiotic idea of heaven and hell existing after life, because it's real and is experienced now.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

How did humans originate? The answer is there in reading books about evolution , brain science, cell biology . This tells you what a human is .

A human is just another animal a brain. The image below shows all vertebrates have the same brain structure and parts. They are more similar than that because each brain is composed of billions of neurons. a nueron is a nerve cell and are basically the same accross species even non-vertebrates like flies, insects.

A neuron in a fly , human, mouse , fish are the same . All animals evolved from a single eukaryotic cell. I am that cell changed over 2 billion years but really the same . a cell has no soul no afterlife, no reincarnation it's just a machine. a human has no soul, no afterlife no reincarnation a human is just a machine, i every human has at least 30 trillion of these eukaryotic cells. neurons are specialized type of eukaryotic cell.

Neuron - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Cell (biology) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

They mapped the brain of a larval fruit fly . And surprise the fly brain is uncannily similar to Ai neural networks , showing a human is neural networks = fly = ai. ai will soon surpass the weak human brain.

First Complete Map of a Fly Brain Has Uncanny Similarities to AI Neural Networks

Over 12 years, researchers mapped all of a larval fruit fly's brain, charting 3,016 neurons and 548,000 connections. It's big news for neuroscience.

gizmodo.com

The neurons are connected into neural networks in the brain. The pattern and weights between connections is what creates the sentience concsiousness perception etc. Chatgpt and ai also are neural networks . the weights to chatgpt can be numbers in a spreadsheet file. ai is much smarter than humans in many areas already for example can write a good essay in a second. imo an agi or human can also be reduced to numbers / weights on a spreadsheet.

imo a human is 30 trillion cells. 86 billion cells in the brain neurons simulate the illusion that a human is one big animal when in reality is 30 trillion cells joined together . and a human is just that first eukaryotic cell with added abominations over time like a brain that can create constant unbearable pain ( but they tell us that's so beautiful)

 

[J&L383]

I am quite happy regardless. The way I see it, there's three general main possibilities;

Non-existence. Materialism
If there is nothing, then it's peaceful; no pain, no suffering, no memory, no consequences. We were indeed just biological chemical bags of meat. And consciousness? its deepest and most perplexing aspects-- were nothing but chemicals.

Afterlife - Eastern thought
If the eastern school of thought is accurate, we reincarnate until we gather enough experience and/or wisdom to 'ascend'. The soul inhabits many physical bodies across many lifetimes. Suicidality leads to merely another similar reincarnation (hopefully better planned next time lol).

Afterlife - Western thought
If the Christians and Muslims are right, then suicide is a sin that may be forgivable by an almighty God. If you are not forgiven, you go to a place of torment for eternity (or a very long time).


I should note that despite the divisions I have made here between western and eastern schools of thought, it is a much more complex and nuanced topic. Western philosophy is nuanced. Eastern is also very varied.

Agree generally with this. But it gets potentially lost in the details as you dig deep into each category. Perhaps you get what you think you're going to get? And so everybody's happy.

 

[onetimereject]

As a born muslim it's been ingrained to me that ctb is an unforgivable sin and there's only hell on the other side for me. We were given life after questioning our soul whether we are sure we want to be human and given a promise of something to find in our life.

I wish it's all just hogwash and there's just no afterlife, what's the point of being promised something before birth and have our memories of it completely eradicated?

 

[Worndown]

Everyone should worry more about this side.

 

[enough of this]

I, for one, don't at all. In ALL of the near-death experience accounts I listen to, it's nothing but sheer bliss and happiness. I can't imagine anything better to look forward to.

 

[untothedepths]

No. Because the greatest proof of what it is like is before birth, and we don't remember any of it because we couldn't. I believe we cease to exist. I hope those who want a happy afterlife find it, but I want oblivion.

I never want a chance to feel content and alive and have it destroyed once more.

 

[that_miqo'te]

I'm already in hell, what is there to fear?

 

[Hotsackage]

Nah :)

 

[tvo]

Depending on who you ask, you may get punished if you ctb and sent to hell. You might get forgiven and sent to heaven. You might get reincarnated. You might just stop existing and that's all there is. You might just get reabsorbed back into source. You might become a ghost if you have unresolved energetic/emotional ties on earth.

It's just all so uncertain. DAE think about this?

"You might just get reabsorbed back into source."

Yes please, I am aiming for that.

I, for one, don't at all. In ALL of the near-death experience accounts I listen to, it's nothing but sheer bliss and happiness. I can't imagine anything better to look forward to.

I have had one of those NDE/OBE myself, and I look forward to waking up from this short dream and returning back to unconditional love and endless euphoria. The longer I am here the more homesick I get.

 

[MapleSyrupVein]

it scary to try picture "nothing" after i CBT but it seems like maybe im just not ready to? i think it'll be nothing you'll take your leave and its full stop, no continue, no nothing, your just a body there and YOU as a soul as a personality are just gone. i think that's horrible i wish i believed in a god to cuddle me

 

[Linda]

Depending on who you ask, you may get punished if you ctb and sent to hell. You might get forgiven and sent to heaven. You might get reincarnated. You might just stop existing and that's all there is. You might just get reabsorbed back into source. You might become a ghost if you have unresolved energetic/emotional ties on earth.

It's just all so uncertain. DAE think about this?

My take on it is that there is no evidence for heaven or hell. None whatever. So why suppose that either exists? So far as I can see, both concepts were invented by people, and have usually been used to control other people.
I think death is the end, and that there is nothing after it.

 

[ham and potatoes]

I think most of us worry, or at least wonder what's on the other side. And we really won't know til we get there.
But one way or another, we all will get there sooner or later.
I like to think that some of the near death experiences I've read about are what awaits us. Most of those seem like they have experiences that are full of joy, love, and happiness

 

[cosmic_traveler]

I'm definitely afraid of Hell. I don't think God loves me anymore.

God is you and me. God is everything.

Every molecule, particle, speck in the universe is God.

 

[AWeepingWidower]

I'm definitely afraid of Hell. I don't think God loves me anymore.

The concept of hell first appeared after the crucifixion of Christ. At the most you just won't be "let in the club," if that's what you believe in.
See also: Romans 8:31-39 "Nothing can separate us from God's love."

If this is your cup of tea all you would have to do is ask for forgiveness and continue to live your best life.

 

[cosmic_traveler]

How did humans originate? The answer is there in reading books about evolution , brain science, cell biology . This tells you what a human is .

A human is just another animal a brain. The image below shows all vertebrates have the same brain structure and parts. They are more similar than that because each brain is composed of billions of neurons. a nueron is a nerve cell and are basically the same accross species even non-vertebrates like flies, insects.

A neuron in a fly , human, mouse , fish are the same . All animals evolved from a single eukaryotic cell. I am that cell changed over 2 billion years but really the same . a cell has no soul no afterlife, no reincarnation it's just a machine. a human has no soul, no afterlife no reincarnation a human is just a machine, i every human has at least 30 trillion of these eukaryotic cells. neurons are specialized type of eukaryotic cell.

Neuron - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Cell (biology) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

They mapped the brain of a larval fruit fly . And surprise the fly brain is uncannily similar to Ai neural networks , showing a human is neural networks = fly = ai. ai will soon surpass the weak human brain.

First Complete Map of a Fly Brain Has Uncanny Similarities to AI Neural Networks

Over 12 years, researchers mapped all of a larval fruit fly's brain, charting 3,016 neurons and 548,000 connections. It's big news for neuroscience.

gizmodo.com

The neurons are connected into neural networks in the brain. The pattern and weights between connections is what creates the sentience concsiousness perception etc. Chatgpt and ai also are neural networks . the weights to chatgpt can be numbers in a spreadsheet file. ai is much smarter than humans in many areas already for example can write a good essay in a second. imo an agi or human can also be reduced to numbers / weights on a spreadsheet.

imo a human is 30 trillion cells. 86 billion cells in the brain neurons simulate the illusion that a human is one big animal when in reality is 30 trillion cells joined together . and a human is just that first eukaryotic cell with added abominations over time like a brain that can create constant unbearable pain ( but they tell us that's so beautiful)

We are the universe experiencing itself.

We believe we're special because we use maths to calculate how stars and planets move through our universe. However, there are fish that calculate the speed and trajectory of the birds they hunt. Snakes and other reptiles view this world with heat vision and scent. Birds navigate air travel with the Earth's magnetic field.

Every living creature experiences this universe differently, but like you stated, we're all just chemical machines that evolved to experience the universe in these ways.

 

[Dark Window]

How much evidence has been presented for an afterlife? 0

How much does organised religion have to gain from convincing you there's an afterlife? Everything. Control over you.

In 2024, please be smart enough to realise heaven and hell are just beliefs installed in you to control you.

 

[cosmic_traveler]

Everyone should worry more about this side.

Exactly.

You're not supposed to live a good life to "earn" your way into heaven. You're supposed to live a good life to spread heaven on earth. The kingdom of heaven walks the earth, but the people are too blind to see.

Depending on who you ask, you may get punished if you ctb and sent to hell. You might get forgiven and sent to heaven. You might get reincarnated. You might just stop existing and that's all there is. You might just get reabsorbed back into source. You might become a ghost if you have unresolved energetic/emotional ties on earth.

It's just all so uncertain. DAE think about this?

This topic comes up quite a bit on this forum so it seems many do ponder this question. There are as many answers as there are humans in the world. Everyone has their own perspective.

The reason it feels uncertain is because your brain cannot associate it with a past experience. Your brain is a complex switch board that is always trying to predict the future based on your past experiences. You've never experienced what comes next, or if you have (reincarnation) you have no memory because the brain stops functioning after death.

I don't think I believe in any particular religion, but I still worry that there's a hell. It would be beyond cruel to ctb to try and find some peace only to end up in eternal torment

Heaven and hell are not destinations, they are a state of mind. If your life is full of misery and pain, you are experiencing hell. If your life is full of joy and happiness, you are experiencing heaven.

You are not scared of hell, you're scared of the unknown. That's a very human reaction. Don't beat yourself up for being human.

 

[davidtorez]

I would imagine just by using Occam's razor that there would be nothing after death. Its a bit like asking where does the flame of a candle go after its out ?

 

[Forveleth]

Nah. Anything on the other side can't lead to more suffering than I am going through now. Heaven, hell, oblivion. I'll take any of it over having to continue this life.