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Wut so the yew seeds need to be specially prepared using this method and have alcohol added in order to be effective, and I cannot just consume them simply crushed like most medical cases describe?Swallow the seeds after brewing?
I guess, but the last person who did that puked.
Unless you mean drink the alcoholic tea…
You can eat them, but you might not be able to keep it down. And that's especially the case if you're consuming a huge quantity of seeds.
Na na na why ctb gotta be dis way. Thx anyways DetachedDreamer97
Impressive how 20 seeds do that… It kinda does give you a "high" feeling.
Yes it seems the problem is to be certain about the correct dosage but i think personally that it is still safer then most other natural poisons in a way because it has not a high chance to give you brain damage if not successfull. I've read an article of a man from the UK who did it with the needels gathered from a cemetery and succeeded.
Hahahaha... MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!
It's probably intuition. I've had that same experience when I bought 120 seeds thinking I had 4 times the lethal amount, but would realize that was far from enough. Bought another 240 only to realize that I've barely reached the low-end lethal dose and I needed more [24 seeds (1.44 g)/kg]. You've made a good call; it would've been a waste of seeds otherwise.
I'd say so. If you had a beta blocker, it'd help a lot.
For one, if I were to make a suggestion (besides the dosage which I've mentioned above), I'd recommend making a tincture or an alcoholic extraction. It allows for quicker absorption, which leads to a quicker death.
No. It's supposed to be relatively peaceful.
Interesting thanks for sharing yeah we have spoke a couple of times about it I was just curious. I know there's not really a good way of doing this but how would you compare it to sodium nitrite?
Ahhhhhh... Well nice seeing you again!
Reliabilitywise? That depends. If it's in extraction form, it's gonna be relatively reliable.
Ah, no problem! It's what I'mgere for!
Yes... I'd say you're quite right, especially if someone you live with has a sensitive nose. It didn't stop me, of course... when it came to evaporating the solvent, I did it either outside or in the garage (when I lived with my grandparents and it's not raining), or my own bedroom with the windows open and the doors closed to minimize the fumes leaking in the room. If you have an exhaust fan, that'd help immensely. Amd it's been easier since I bought myself a Buckner funnel and was able to vacuum drain the solvent from the material, at least for the initial defat step.
Yup!
You could, but there's a good chance you won't be able to keep it down...
Correct!
Once more, no problem! I'm happy to help!
Luckily... it's easy to know the yews toxicity levels as they vary throughout the year, seasonally. Taxine is highest in the winter, and lowest in the fall. The seeds hold up to 9.2 mg per gram, and the leaves hold between 5-20 mg per gram. Being that it's October, it's around 10 mg/g. The dosage required is already mentioned, which I'd say go overkill.
Would the datura inoxia seeds or scopolamine tablets prevent that?
Ah thank you, I've saved it now. :) Out of curiosity, what do you mean 'it would had to be used quickly before it expires'? The tincture? It had a short date before the toxicity is reduced?
I heard this, about the varying toxicity of the seeds and this is something I've always kept in mind, but I found it difficult to find information regarding toxicity and how it works etc. I heard they're most toxic in winter, like you said, but I'm buying them from online. Do you think that's risky considering I can't really know when the seeds are from (if that makes sense) or does it not matter and as long as I have them in October the taxine will be highest, even if I bought them months before?
Sure thing! And no worries; I'm pretty busy myself.
Yes they would.
If you're following Daniela's basic recipe with 10 percent alcohol, it will have a short shelf life. The main concern is that it's susceptible to bacteria and mold growth.
The leaves are... but you might wanna look at ... this: https://books.google.com/books?id=R... of the seed; the red aril is edible.&f=false
I'd say you're fine, if you've stored them properly.
Regarding October, I meant that it's kinda in the middle between the summer andnwinter concentrations. It becomes more potent later in the year, peaking in January, but that's the case with leaves. Regarding seeds, I'd imagine the concentration is just 0.92% on average (harvested in the fall before they fall off the tree or get eaten by birds).
I've once used seeds after two months and I don't think there was much of a loss in potency. But the sooner you use it, the better.
Probably, though I think it might require you to either store it in an airtight container, freeze it, or both. Room temperature and I'm pretty sure it'll degrade after a few months.
Anytime. Hope I sounded coherent... I'm coming down with a case of postprandial depression and I feel confusion setting in.
What is the proper way to store them? I hadn't considered about this and currently keep them in the packages they arrived in in my room.
I'm sorry to hear that, I hope you feel better soon!
No sweat... I have plenty of time as of now.
Cool dark place, though if you want to store it for longer, put them in the freezer, perhaps in a sealed airtight container or bag.
No biggie, it happens a lot. Just gotta be carefup not to eat too much carbs. I feel better now though.
Sure thing!
I'll be ready! Tag me and I'll be summoned.
No need to feel sorry. My schedule isn't too busy... apart from dozing off constantly...
Provided you weigh 50 kg or less... 1200 is 4 times the lethal dosage for someone who weighs 50kg. You could probably get by with just 2 times the lethal dose, but the more the better. Another thing: you might also wanna check the weight.
If you're going to save them for a couple of years, freeze them in an airtight container. But yeah.
Honestly, up to you. But if you can, look for the plant and gather leaves. Seeds may be good, but they have a lot of fatty oil which can make extracting a bit difficult without defatting first.
No problem!
Sorry about asking that, I just realised you already kind of answered that above, I was kind of panicked when I wrote that message yesterday.
Yeah, that's a good idea. I'm going to the Doctor on Monday so I'll see if I can get weighed there to make sure.
I think there might actually be some yew trees near where I live. I am slightly concerned people might think it's weird or wrong if they see someone to just randomly be taking seeds of it though. Also, I just realised small Taxus Baccata trees seem to be available to buy online, I wonder if these leaves would work? And they seem very cheap, way cheaper than getting the seeds. Then again depends on how many I'd need.
I looked into defatting the seeds, so is my understanding correct that you have to buy Heptane (found results like 'Heptane 99.5% ACS' and 'Heptane -1LTR' I assume these would be good?), put the seeds in a glass jar, pour the heptane in and boil the jar on a gas stove constantly for many hours (any suggestions how long?) and do this 5 times, until the liquid looks pale? Then filter it through a coffee filter (a metal one I assume?) and, as you said in a previous post 'allow the seeds to dry on a sheet of parchment paper in a cookie tray.'.
Anytime!
Not just that, but also weigh the seeds as well; The weight of each seed tends to be inconsistent. Won't say it's completely necessary, but... it is recommended.
I'd say go for it, perhaps unless it's in other people's yard. If it's out in a park or somewhere in a public place by the road, take that hike and start harvesting. Also don't waste money on the tiny plants, it's rather inefficient and will require a lot of money to get the right dose, plus... I also believe they're not as toxic.
If it helps, I'd say grab at least 3 or 4 decent-sized branches.
Not exactly... Depending on how you go about it, you'll probably need either 2-3 litres of heptane. For me, it takes at least 5 pulls to get a decent amount of oil out, though I do as much as I can to remove almost all of it.
No sweat. You wanna get this right. I understand.
Because people tend to have a thung for things like SN, and things mentioned in the PPEH, and sadly, when people do mention the yews ir anything plant related, or something obscure, but old school, it gets shut down, because most peoole don't want to try. I often hear people saying, "ThE yEW is tErriBle. It's too hard..."
Sure thing! Hope I replied coherently; I noticed I'm starting to lose focus and doze off.Thank you again for your help! I can not express enough what it means and I hope you're doing well!
