Does anyone know if 300 Taxus baccata yew seeds purchased online will kill a person? What if the seeds are grinded up & mixed with milkshake?

[GlitterNinja]

I thought cardiac arrest will occur shortly afterwards.

 

[cyanlove]

I don't know. I tried searching and I found this website.

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

I thought cardiac arrest will occur shortly afterwards.

Alright… first: How much do you weigh in kilograms? If you weigh no more than 50, 300 seeds than that would probably be the low end lethal dose, but… you're likely gonna need far more than that.

Secondly, there is but another problem, based on conversations I've had with others, there's gonna be a problem of nausea, which are mainly from the oils in the seeds. You can still use it, but I'd recommend defatting it first at least.

Thirdly, I don't think it's a good idea to mix that into milk, it'll taste bad.

 

[MorningFrost96]

Taxus bacatta is actually quite deadly. The side effects aren't that fun though.

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

Taxus bacatta is actually quite deadly. The side effects aren't that fun though.

Can be. The problem isn't the taxine itself. It's the other compounds, like ephedrine (counteracts taxine), oils (GI irritant), tannic and formic acid (toxic and can be irritating to the GI tract.

 

[mindcancer]

Can be. The problem isn't the taxine itself. It's the other compounds, like ephedrine (counteracts taxine), oils (GI irritant), tannic and formic acid (toxic and can be irritating to the GI tract.

I'd like your opinion on brewing T. baccata needles as opposed to eating needles or crushing seeds. Seeing how ingesting leaves is far more common than seeds, it may be a viable option, no?

 

[GlitterNinja]

Is there a way to instant message to members on this forum?

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

Is there a way to instant message to members on this forum?

You need to make at least a hundred posts.

 

[olkf]

Is there a way to instant message to members on this forum?

Yeah but you have to which amount of reactions and posts

You need to make at least a hundred posts.

I was way below that number when I was able to
On the 23th, est 30 posts I was able to instant message.

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

I'd like your opinion on brewing T. baccata needles as opposed to eating needles or crushing seeds. Seeing how ingesting leaves is far more common than seeds, it may be a viable option, no?

Brewing a tea could work, but I'd imagine you'd need to at least add a bit of alcohol to it until it's 10% alcohol… or adding a splash of vinegar/lemon juice to make the water acidic. Taxine is soluble in alcohol or acidic water, but people have died from simply brewing the tea.

There's a guide made by Daniela on a usenet forum on how to properly do this. There's a small problem with the recipe; contrary to what it says, I'd refrain from adding lemon juice until you get to the real extraction step as adding an acid could make taxine water-soluble. And you'll potentially lose it when you finally get to the alcoholic step.

 

[GlitterNinja]

I was hoping yew seeds would be the easiest way to go but does not seem like it. Someone mentioned in the internet that 100 seeds would cause cardiac arrest soon as you consume them. I am not the brightest person. Any other suggestions out there? I am so desperate to leave this world… I need a quick, least painful, and sure way to go.

But then again, I suppose everyone here are wondering the same thing.
I would love to actually talk to
someone from this forum. Would be nice to talk to someone who will not convince me that what I feel is mental, distorted or wrong. Would anyone be open to that? Maybe we can google chat via Hangouts, preferably someone from the United States and is over 30 years old. Not sure how we can exchange contact info.

 

[mindcancer]

I was hoping yew seeds would be the easiest way to go but does not seem like it. Someone mentioned in the internet that 100 seeds would cause cardiac arrest soon as you consume them. I am not the brightest person. Any other suggestions out there? I am so desperate to leave this world… I need a quick, least painful, and sure way to go.

But then again, I suppose everyone here are wondering the same thing.
I would love to actually talk to
someone from this forum over the phone. Would be nice to talk to someone who will not convince me that what I feel is mental, distorted or wrong. Would anyone be open to that? Maybe we can google chat, preferably someone from the United States. Please IM me if you are interested.

Depending on the dose, symptoms may occur between 30-90 minutes with death following 90 minutes to 24 hours after initial ingestion. Hypotension, diarrhoea, nausea, abdominal pain, and vomiting tend to be the earliest symptoms accompanied by highly volatile arrhythmias (bradycardic and tachycardic), confusion, dyspnea, and death. That's not to say you'll experience it all. Losing consciousness because of stagnant hypoxia caused by bradycardia and hypotension is common. Avoiding atropine and diazepam is recommended. Brain damage post-recovery is possible but not all too common.

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

I was hoping yew seeds would be the easiest way to go but does not seem like it. Someone mentioned in the internet that 100 seeds would cause cardiac arrest soon as you consume them. I am not the brightest person. Any other suggestions out there? I am so desperate to leave this world… I need a quick, least painful, and sure way to go.

Yeah, it's not as easy as you'd think. I once thought 120 was more than enough, until I started going balls-deep into my research. And the only way that death would be quick without symptoms is…
1: You go overkill on the amount of yew material [at least 1.45 grams of seeds (~24 seeds)/kg or 2 grams of leaves/kg]
2: You consume it as an extract as liquid extracts are more rapidly absorbed into the blood stream.

But then again, I suppose everyone here are wondering the same thing.
I would love to actually talk to
someone from this forum. Would be nice to talk to someone who will not convince me that what I feel is mental, distorted or wrong. Would anyone be open to that? Maybe we can google chat, preferably someone from the United States and is over 30 years old. Not sure how we can exchange contact info.

I'll see what I can do. I'm 6 years shy of 30 though, but hope you don't mind…

I guess nothing for now… you're just gonna have to postmaxx until you get up to a hundred posts.

 

[Of The Universe]

What is this shit normally used for?

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

What is this shit normally used for?

Yew? It's historically used as a poison, but it's also used for saving lives of cancer patients.

 

[GlitterNinja]

Yeah, it's not as easy as you'd think. I once thought 120 was more than enough, until I started going balls-deep into my research. And the only way that death would be quick without symptoms is…
1: You go overkill on the amount of yew material [at least 1.45 grams of seeds (~24 seeds)/kg or 2 grams of leaves/kg]
2: You consume it as an extract as liquid extracts are more rapidly absorbed into the blood stream.


I'll see what I can do. I'm 6 years shy of 30 though, but hope you don't mind…

I guess nothing for now… you're just gonna have to postmaxx until you get up to a hundred posts.

Ah! Why does trying to end one's life have to be so difficult? Is there any other way that is not so complicated & painful?

 

[Athompie]

Hey. I admire your journey.

I want to die so bad but I'm getting lazier and I'm worried I'll lose my job before I can get everything set up.

I've heard of N and I'd like to try and get some of it. I have some zip ties right now where I want to hang myself with them but before I tried I cut them while choking looking for pliers.

God I'm so desperate too.

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

Ah! Why does trying to end one's life have to be so difficult? Is there any other way that is not so complicated & painful?

Simply because a lot of the good ones have been made increasingly inaccessible. That said, I have a few ideas, but they're not peaceful by itself.

I won't lie, no method is easy. Sometimes you've gotta study a method in order to prepare it right. Or invest money into it. Hell… You might even have to improvise. That's how I among many others do it.

There's plenty of information on methods, but I don't want to spoon-feed you information out of ethics. What I'd say though is, anything is a tool if you know how to use it. That includes research chemicals, drugs, or technical items, or even your own body.

As of now, I would imagine you are but a novice. And now is the time to level up! Research and invest in whatever method you have your sights on. If a method is flawed, find a loophole and perfect it to the best of your abilities.


Before I go, I have but one question: what made you consider the yew as a method? Your answer will decide whether it's right for you.

Here are some archives:

/suicide/ - Suicide Tips & Tricks

web.archive.org

TOXINS

The Dark Biology Guide to poisonous (toxic) plants and animals. The page includes a guide of nearly every poisonous plant known to man and some of the most toxic and posionous animals. It's a poison treasure trove.

web.archive.org

And resources:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/suicide-resource-compilation.3/

 

[GlitterNinja]

I was considering yew seeds because I found the following on the internet: "Buy 100 yew seeds (taxus baccata) online. Crush them up and serve with icecream or a strong drink (warning they are bitter). Cardiac arrest should onset within a few minutes. It will happen so fast you won't even notice. Trust me I tried already. Sadly an ambulance got there in time to resuscitate me. Make sure you are alone."


Here is the site where I found it:

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www.askmen.com

Then when I researched yew seeds on the internet, it seems that they are extremely poisonous. So my hopes were way up.

Thank u for responding.

 

[mindcancer]

I was considering yew seeds because I found the following on the internet: "Buy 100 yew seeds (taxus baccata) online. Crush them up and serve with icecream or a strong drink (warning they are bitter). Cardiac arrest should onset within a few minutes. It will happen so fast you won't even notice. Trust me I tried already. Sadly an ambulance got there in time to resuscitate me. Make sure you are alone."


Here is the site where I found it:

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www.askmen.com

Then when I researched yew seeds on the internet, it seems that they are extremely poisonous. So my hopes were way up.

Thank u for responding.

I know that having your method validated is reassuring, but instead of using "trust me" as a source of information, I would look into case reports.

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

I was considering yew seeds because I found the following on the internet: "Buy 100 yew seeds (taxus baccata) online. Crush them up and serve with icecream or a strong drink (warning they are bitter). Cardiac arrest should onset within a few minutes. It will happen so fast you won't even notice. Trust me I tried already. Sadly an ambulance got there in time to resuscitate me. Make sure you are alone."


Here is the site where I found it:

This question(?) has been deleted

This question(?) has been deleted

www.askmen.com

Then when I researched yew seeds on the internet, it seems that they are extremely poisonous. So my hopes were way up.

Thank u for responding.

Yeah, the toxicity of yew seeds tend to be overstated a lot. People claim it's 30 seeds, other's say it's a hundred, and one report has claimed 400. The 400 seed case seems plausible considering it did him in. As for the hundred, a dude tried that according to the book of suicide but I know it's not eniugh, but there're a lot if variables like body weight, and heart conditions, as well as whether you take drugs that interact with the taxine.

The important thing to know is that the LD50 of taxine is 3mg/kg. The leaves hold the minimum of 6 mg/g in the summer, with the maximum of 20 mg/g in the winter. Basically, you'll need 0.5 grams of leaves/kg to reach the low end lethal dose. It's best to at least quadruple it up to 2 g/kg for a real attempt.

Regarding seeds, it's said to hold 9.2 mg/g. Each seed weighs an average of 0.0603 grams, which contains about 0.55 mg of taxine alkaloids. To reach 3 mg, you need about 6 seeds (~0.36 grams). Times that by four like you do the leaves and that will be the sufficient for your real attempt, which'll be 24 seeds (~1.45 g)/kg.

Source: https://books.google.com/books?id=Rg8lBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA400&lpg=PA400&dq=The+alkaloid+complex,+taxine+(0.92%),+is+responsible+for+the+toxic+character+of+the+seed;&source=bl&ots=Q-85FmSBBO&sig=ACfU3U3kWE_UQc2FaZGkn061wKOKeyl8vA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjAuoGMppT2AhVtjokEHQehA2sQ6AF6BAgsEAI

 

[ineedtoctb]

I was hoping yew seeds would be the easiest way to go but does not seem like it. Someone mentioned in the internet that 100 seeds would cause cardiac arrest soon as you consume them. I am not the brightest person. Any other suggestions out there? I am so desperate to leave this world… I need a quick, least painful, and sure way to go.

But then again, I suppose everyone here are wondering the same thing.
I would love to actually talk to
someone from this forum. Would be nice to talk to someone who will not convince me that what I feel is mental, distorted or wrong. Would anyone be open to that? Maybe we can google chat via Hangouts, preferably someone from the United States and is over 30 years old. Not sure how we can exchange contact info.

I'm willing to chat

 

[transientflesh127]

Brewing a tea could work, but I'd imagine you'd need to at least add a bit of alcohol to it until it's 10% alcohol… or adding a splash of vinegar/lemon juice to make the water acidic. Taxine is soluble in alcohol or acidic water, but people have died from simply brewing the tea.

There's a guide made by Daniela on a usenet forum on how to properly do this. There's a small problem with the recipe; contrary to what it says, I'd refrain from adding lemon juice until you get to the real extraction step as adding an acid could make taxine water-soluble. And you'll potentially lose it when you finally get to the alcoholic step.

??????

Wut

These instructions are confusing.. could you make it a bit clearer for idiots like me? Thx

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

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Wut

These instructions are confusing.. could you make it a bit clearer for idiots like me? Thx

I'll try…

Basically, grab some yew leaves, wash them (do the same with seeds if dirty), and dry them in an oven at 150-175°F.

Crush the leaves.

Simmer them in water.

Strain out and dispose the liquid (they contain the undesirable alkaloids and oils mainly) and save the leaf powder

Air dry the leaf powder.

Extract in a 10 percent solution of ethyl alcohol, with a splash of lemon juice.

Allow it to sit at least overnight, shaking occasionally.

Strain and keep the liquid.

Dispose the leaves.

Drink the extract.

 

[transientflesh127]

I'll try…

Basically, grab some yew leaves, wash them (do the same with seeds if dirty), and dry them in an oven at 150-175°F.

Crush the leaves.

Simmer them in water.

Strain out and dispose the liquid (they contain the undesirable alkaloids and oils mainly) and save the leaf powder

Air dry the leaf powder.

Extract in a 10 percent solution of ethyl alcohol, with a splash of lemon juice.

Allow it to sit at least overnight, shaking occasionally.

Strain and keep the liquid.

Dispose the leaves.

Drink the extract.

Oh no... I can only get packs of a few hundred seeds online from where I am, not fresh leaves. Does it work with seeds?

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

Oh no... I can only get packs of a few hundred seeds online from where I am, not fresh leaves. Does it work with seeds?

Yeah, it works with seeds… though…

I recommend doing a heptane defat first as in my experience, theres a lot of fatty oils that may or may not interfere with the extraction.

If you can remove the fats, you'll be able to further grind the seeds into powder, making a more efficient extraction.

 

[transientflesh127]

Yeah, it works with seeds… though…

I recommend doing a heptane defat first as in my experience, theres a lot of fatty oils that may or may not interfere with the extraction.

If you can remove the fats, you'll be able to further grind the seeds into powder, making a more efficient extraction.

Heptane defat? What is dat

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

Heptane defat? What is dat

Like brewing tea for hours on end, but with a nonpolar solvent. And you repeat it few times. 5 times should be sufficient.
You're removing the oils.


After you reach the point where it looks kinda pale, filter it through a coffee filter and allow the seeds to dry on a sheet of parchment paper in a cookie tray.

 

[transientflesh127]

Like brewing tea for hours on end, but with a nonpolar solvent. And you repeat it few times. 5 times should be sufficient.
You're removing the oils.
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Non polar solvent........
Can't I just swallow the crushed seeds after letting them seep in boiling water, just like regular tea? And it would be just as lethal?

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

Non polar solvent........
Can't I just swallow the crushed seeds after letting them seep in boiling water, just like regular tea? And it would be just as lethal?

Swallow the seeds after brewing?
I guess, but the last person who did that puked.

Unless you mean drink the alcoholic tea…