Does anyone feel like things always turn out for the worst ?

[smileycryptid]

Does anyone else feel like no matter what nothing in life ever got better every situation some how ended up with the worst case scenario you think it can't get much worse than this but then it always does Even when you talk to people they look at you in disbelief about how badly things go
like how did all these things keep on happening and they tell you it will get better but you know it won't but you wait and try to be hopeful and guess what the terrible thing that you thought would happen happened

I have been suicidal for as long as I can remember it's just gotten louder with time and i have tried to be positive but it just feels like copium because I know what will happen and i can't tell if it's patten recognition or if there's something else but I'm pretty good at predicting outcomes and none of them are ever good it feels like as soon as I try to get better life will find the hardest thing i could deal with and throw it at me it's like I can never move forward I just get put further and further back

At this point my life is so awful i can't bare to keep going on I haven't had a break in years there's always something going wrong and I fear things will somehow get even worse thinking of ctb is the only thing that calms me because it's finally a choice that will end my suffering rather than perpetuate it

 

[Throwawayacc3]

Not worse. More like ripped away. The worst part is some people always use the hindsight theory which just beats you down even more.

You succeed - you see everything worked out!
You fail - you should of done THIS or THIS.

I don't know. I'm tired.

 

[Fktw0rld]

There's an old saying my platoon leader would say repeatedly during deployments. It stuck with me throughout life and yes I agree, things typically turn out negatively. He would always tell us: "Never make a home at rock bottom. Never get too comfortable. Cause just when you think you hit rock bottom, the rocks shatter from underneath you. It can always get worse."

I've found this to be true

 

[smileycryptid]

There's an old saying my platoon leader would say repeatedly during deployments. It stuck with me throughout life and yes I agree, things typically turn out negatively. He would always tell us: "Never make a home at rock bottom. Never get too comfortable. Cause just when you think you hit rock bottom, the rocks shatter from underneath you. It can always get worse."

I've found this to be true

That saying feels so true with how life is
he sounds like is a really interesting person

 

[sserafim]

It's Murphy's Law. "Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong." Why? I don't know

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I wouldn't say things for me always turn out to be the worst case scenario always as, if that were the case, I'd most likely be too crippled to move or type. Things do tend to be awful for me but definitely far from the worst case scenario. But, then again, I don't fully know what the implications of the worst case scenario is. I personally don't believe in the concept of rock bottom as I believe that things can always get worse infinitely as long as one is alive. Rock bottom implies that there is no way but up but I believe that pain and suffering and misfortune can always go further down

 

[INTJme]

Does anyone else feel like no matter what nothing in life ever got better every situation some how ended up with the worst case scenario you think it can't get much worse than this but then it always does Even when you talk to people they look at you in disbelief about how badly things go
like how did all these things keep on happening and they tell you it will get better but you know it won't but you wait and try to be hopeful and guess what the terrible thing that you thought would happen happened

I have been suicidal for as long as I can remember it's just gotten louder with time and i have tried to be positive but it just feels like copium because I know what will happen and i can't tell if it's patten recognition or if there's something else but I'm pretty good at predicting outcomes and none of them are ever good it feels like as soon as I try to get better life will find the hardest thing i could deal with and throw it at me it's like I can never move forward I just get put further and further back

At this point my life is so awful i can't bare to keep going on I haven't had a break in years there's always something going wrong and I fear things will somehow get even worse thinking of ctb is the only thing that calms me because it's finally a choice that will end my suffering rather than perpetuate it

Exactly my experience of life... Feels like I wrote this down lol

 

[Fktw0rld]

That saying feels so true with how life is
he sounds like is a really interesting person

He was. His quotes always hit the hardest. When I lost my best friend in combat I was a total mess and it was obvious. After about a week of seeing me the way I was he walked up to me during stand to, took a knee beside me (I was in a prone position with my rifle) and said: "look at me for a second. I know it's haunting you, I can't change that. But listen to what I'm saying. I'm not asking you to stand tall. I'm just asking you to stand up." And walked away.

Those were his last words to me. He died from an anti tank mine less than a month later escorting a fuel convoy.

Those words have been embedded into my subconscious for life. And I've used it many times to help someone else who was struggling.

im not asking you to stand tall, I'm just asking you to stand up.

 

[smileycryptid]

I can't even begin to imagine how hard that situation must have been or how anyone could cope with the suffering of war and I'm so sorry for you losses

He was an amazing person to be able to think on your feet like that he must have so much strength of character thank you so much for sharing your story it left quite an impact I will remember these quotes also

He was. His quotes always hit the hardest. When I lost my best friend in combat I was a total mess and it was obvious. After about a week of seeing me the way I was he walked up to me during stand to, took a knee beside me (I was in a prone position with my rifle) and said: "look at me for a second. I know it's haunting you, I can't change that. But listen to what I'm saying. I'm not asking you to stand tall. I'm just asking you to stand up." And walked away.

Those were his last words to me. He died from an anti tank mine less than a month later escorting a fuel convoy.

Those words have been embedded into my subconscious for life. And I've used it many times to help someone else who was struggling.

im not asking you to stand tall, I'm just asking

Exactly my experience of life... Feels like I wrote this down lol

I'm glad we can understand each other
I have been told that I'm very ij (infj ) I wonder if that plays are part in why are lives are so similar

I wouldn't say things for me always turn out to be the worst case scenario always as, if that were the case, I'd most likely be too crippled to move or type. Things do tend to be awful for me but definitely far from the worst case scenario. But, then again, I don't fully know what the implications of the worst case scenario is. I personally don't believe in the concept of rock bottom as I believe that things can always get worse infinitely as long as one is alive. Rock bottom implies that there is no way but up but I believe that pain and suffering and misfortune can always go further down

Very well said I agree entirely

 

[mtoro998]

Yes and if they arent turning for the worst yet they will eventually.

 

[INTJme]

I have been told that I'm very ij (infj ) I wonder if that plays are part in why are lives are so similar

Yes, based on your choice of words and phraseology, you did give me INxJ vibes, which means we have the same leading function and thus very similar perspectives on life.

 

[NeedAnEscape]

It does feel like any semblance of joy or success gets ripped out from underneath me. There's always someone or something to undermine any sense of pride or fulfillment I might have. Sometimes, it's just my own mind refusing to let me be satisfied. I also feel like whenever I have gained some form of security, whether it's in a friendship or career, I always lose it in some turn of events. I can't trust that people will be happy for me when I have achieved something; someone will always be jealous and resentful when I accomplish something that they don't.

I know that I care more about my friends than they care about me. If I lost them, it would be a catastrophic blow, while my loss could easily be swept under the rug. Though, perhaps that is for the best. The pain of my loss will be diminished, and the people around me can move on with their lives swiftly. I don't want the people I know -- people who can make a meaningful difference in the world -- to be bogged down by grief. I don't want them to waste any more of their time and effort worrying about me.

I'm tired of the energy I expend in this world. I'm tired of every breath I take. The brief sparks of 'happiness' I feel always have a mold of emptiness underneath. Things are only getting worse, and I'm not expecting anything to change for the better.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

People tell me "it will get better" but 10+ years ago life got worse 9 years ago it got worse, 8, 7, 6, 5 etc. years it got worse worse worse and worse then how the f*ck can people keep saying it gets better when there is clearly a pattern of things getting worse by each passing year!? Maybe because life gets better for them but that doesn´t mean it gets better for everyone else just like I know just because life keeps getting worse for me doesn´t mean it does for everyone else but somehow other people don´t get that.

it feels like as soon as I try to get better life will find the hardest thing i could deal with and throw it at me it's like I can never move forward I just get put further and further back

And I definitely can agree with this because ironically as I am writing this my food allergies feels worse recently and I injured my hand over a week ago (nerve damage) so I haven´t been able to workout and dealt with some other stuff in the few weeks so I lost all the muscle I had gained, I also can´t game because of the injury at least not very long and certainly not online FPS games so I am basically just on this forum and been watching series on and off for over a week.

 

[Ash]

People tell me "it will get better" but 10+ years ago life got worse 9 years ago it got worse, 8, 7, 6, 5 etc. years it got worse worse worse and worse then how the f*ck can people keep saying it gets better when there is clearly a pattern of things getting worse by each passing year!?

I hear you.

 

[Silent_cries]

Things has mostly turned out badly for me yes, sometimes things would go well for a little while though, but only until things eventually came crashing down again. I've had very little luck in life, and the few times I have, it would never last. "Nothing lasts forever" has litterary been the truest statement of my life

 

[Malaria]

It does feel like my life has gradually gotten worse and worse since 2005...

 

[BlendedHeart]

I would love to be less pessimistic, less gloomy, but when life f**ks you up over and over again, it's not easy to see things from a good perspective.

 

[sserafim]

Yes, based on your choice of words and phraseology, you did give me INxJ vibes, which means we have the same leading function and thus very similar perspectives on life.

What about me? What vibes do I give off?

 

[Throwawayacc3]

Yes, based on your choice of words and phraseology, you did give me INxJ vibes, which means we have the same leading function and thus very similar perspectives on life.

I did two of those tests (wanted to do more for larger data set but behind paywall) and got INFJ-T twice. I'm not sure how reliable they are and how they collate the data but the fact I got it twice cannot be a coincidence.

What about me? What vibes do I give off?

They are referring to personality types -

Free personality test, type descriptions, relationship and career advice | 16Personalities

www.16personalities.com

I would love to be less pessimistic, less gloomy, but when life f**ks you up over and over again, it's not easy to see things from a good perspective.

Matthew's Effect lol. Yep been there done that. You become a shell eventually. The worst is being gas lit after doing everything you were told and it fails (due to people or events outside your control) and you get berated.

 

[Raindancer]

There's an old saying my platoon leader would say repeatedly during deployments. It stuck with me throughout life and yes I agree, things typically turn out negatively. He would always tell us: "Never make a home at rock bottom. Never get too comfortable. Cause just when you think you hit rock bottom, the rocks shatter from underneath you. It can always get worse."

I've found this to be true

Yes, the last few years this has been my new motto.

He was. His quotes always hit the hardest. When I lost my best friend in combat I was a total mess and it was obvious. After about a week of seeing me the way I was he walked up to me during stand to, took a knee beside me (I was in a prone position with my rifle) and said: "look at me for a second. I know it's haunting you, I can't change that. But listen to what I'm saying. I'm not asking you to stand tall. I'm just asking you to stand up." And walked away.

Those were his last words to me. He died from an anti tank mine less than a month later escorting a fuel convoy.

Those words have been embedded into my subconscious for life. And I've used it many times to help someone else who was struggling.

im not asking you to stand tall, I'm just asking you to stand up.

I am so sorry for your losses. I cannot imagine war and wish it never happens. He sounded like a good leader and a wise man. I am sure he made lasting impressions on the men under his care.

 

[INTJme]

What about me? What vibes do I give off?

xNTP (INTP/ENTP)

 

[Teary01]

Only advice that really stuck with jeeping me alive was the delusional sense of thinking that "everything will be ok in the end" only for it to keep making me stay breathing for a couple more years and it never got better since.

 

[sserafim]

xNTP (INTP/ENTP)

Lol why do you say so? How did you know? You got it right though, I'm an INTP (or maybe you knew all along)

I did two of those tests (wanted to do more for larger data set but behind paywall) and got INFJ-T twice. I'm not sure how reliable they are and how they collate the data but the fact I got it twice cannot be a coincidence.

They are referring to personality types -

Free personality test, type descriptions, relationship and career advice | 16Personalities

www.16personalities.com

Yeah I know. I'm just curious how I seem to other people. I'm an INTP. Don't take the 16 Personalities test because it's not accurate. It relies on the dichotomies. You need to take a test about the cognitive functions

 

[INTJme]

Lol why do you say so? How did you know? You got it right though, I'm an INTP (or maybe you knew all along)

Yes, INTP was my first hunch followed by ENTP (it's not easy to figure out introversion/extroversion over a text-based forum). Regarding how I knew... well, it was part of my job to understand people's problems, motivations, fears etc. and empower them in their lives. And I was bloody good at what I did.

 

[sserafim]

Yes, INTP was my first hunch followed by ENTP (it's not easy to figure out introversion/extroversion over a text-based forum). Regarding how I knew... well, it was part of my job to understand people's problems, motivations, fears etc. and empower them in their lives. And I was bloody good at what I did.

What do you think mine are? Were you a therapist/psychologist/psychiatrist?

 

[INTJme]

Don't take the 16 Personalities test because it's not accurate. It relies on the dichotomies. You need to take a test about the cognitive functions

Yes, 16P is actually a Big 5 test masquerading as MBTI.

What do you think mine are? Were you a therapist/psychologist/psychiatrist?

I'm a life coach, so yeah, something similar to a psychologist. It probably also helps that I've studied psychology for like 15 years now but not in a formal setting. I'm an autodidact.

What do you think mine are?

We haven't interacted enough for me to figure those out. But they're more a function of Enneagram than MBTI.

 

[sserafim]

Yes, 16P is actually a Big 5 test masquerading as MBTI.

I'm a life coach, so yeah, something similar to a psychologist. It probably also helps that I've studied psychology for like 15 years now but not in a formal setting. I'm an autodidact.

We haven't interacted enough for me to figure those out. But they're more a function of Enneagram than MBTI.

Yeah, I heard that Enneagram is more about your fears and motivations. I'm a type 5, 5w4, 539

 

[INTJme]

Yeah, I heard that Enneagram is more about your fears and motivations. I'm a type 5, 5w4, 539

Yes, I was confident about the 5 core and a 9 fix but would've guessed 4 as the last fix instead of 3.

 

[sserafim]

Yes, I was confident about the 5 core and a 9 fix but would've guessed 4 as the last fix instead of 3.

Hmm interesting. Someone else said that I seemed like a 4 to them, but personally, I think I'm a 539. I used to be ambitious but I failed to launch after college, and am now a hiki. I do want to be admired and successful, but at the same time, I don't see the point of achievement anymore. Are there any other typing systems that you're into?

 

[AllMyDreams]

Does anyone else feel like no matter what nothing in life ever got better every situation some how ended up with the worst case scenario you think it can't get much worse than this but then it always does Even when you talk to people they look at you in disbelief about how badly things go
like how did all these things keep on happening and they tell you it will get better but you know it won't but you wait and try to be hopeful and guess what the terrible thing that you thought would happen happened

I have been suicidal for as long as I can remember it's just gotten louder with time and i have tried to be positive but it just feels like copium because I know what will happen and i can't tell if it's patten recognition or if there's something else but I'm pretty good at predicting outcomes and none of them are ever good it feels like as soon as I try to get better life will find the hardest thing i could deal with and throw it at me it's like I can never move forward I just get put further and further back

At this point my life is so awful i can't bare to keep going on I haven't had a break in years there's always something going wrong and I fear things will somehow get even worse thinking of ctb is the only thing that calms me because it's finally a choice that will end my suffering rather than perpetuate it

IMO there is a healthy and unhealthy way to be positive. A healthy way is to acknowledge that there is a ton of shit wrong but also say "I'm grateful" for all the things that you do have. Could be as simple as your warm bed, your shower, your brain and ability to talk with people, family members, past experiences, what have you. I have these things, no one will take them away from me, and I love that I have them.

Unhealthy positivity is when you look at what's wrong and say "it's not really that bad, other people are worse off". Because at the end of the day you aren't focusing on what's actually good you're just coping and trying to minimize the bad. I suggest trying to move away from that.