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disabledlife

disabledlife

Arcanist
Jun 5, 2020
435
Do you think there is "life" after death with CTB?

Are you afraid of hell? Of reincarnation?

I don't know if this has happened to you, I think so, especially if CTB was a failure or you had told others about it.

You have undoubtedly had the right to moral lessons and reproaches, sermonts. You have no doubt been told that you will go to hell, that you deserve it.

I find it hard to believe that we can deserve hell after CTB, it's absurd, a CTB person for himself, not for others, who continue to live! There is no murder. In the case of assisted suicide or euthanasia, the person who is going to die has asked for help or for someone to do something for them. Here again we respect his will, so no murder.

On the other hand, forcing someone to live, to suffer, against her will, that she has carefully thought through and is aware of the alternative solutions in life, that she has refused them, is torture!

Forcing her to live and suffer can be seen as torture and barbarism, because especially if the pro-life is not suffering, is in good health or has a fulfilled life, which can be considered domination, abuse of weakness.

But abuse, torture, barbarism are punished! And, who knows, maybe after the death of the pro-life. We euthanize our animals well to spare them suffering, and we consider that to be dignity, and we pulp animal abuse well. So why not be able to do the same to humans, offering them the dignity of choosing their end of life at any time for any reason, carefully considered, to punish forced suffering.

Are you afraid of reincarnation?

Because, for me, yes, I think that hell is indeed here, in this universe, to reincarnate is the biggest fear for me, to start all over from childhood, to be born even worse, in an even worse body, even sicker, worse still, to be born in a body of conjoined twins or in an animal prey! I imagine, and I am afraid, to start the same life again too, my childhood in the suffering and torture of a child abused, harassed, ignored, never cared for!

Living is hell, no one told us that there was a paradise in this world, but on the other hand, there are hells, an infinity of hells, suffering, war, domination of one over the other, a nature destroyed by man. If a God existed, then why would he let his creation, man, destroy everything? And then the lature, whatever the living beings, was made of domination and prey, always wars of domination for procreation, what scientists call evolution, discovered by Darwin, natural selection, on the basis of suffering and unimaginable torture! This, I do not think it is the work of God!
 
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avoid_slow_death

avoid_slow_death

Ready to embrace the peaceful bliss of the void.
Feb 4, 2020
1,358
Am I afraid of Hell and/or reincarnation? Hell fuck yes! However, I am agnostic and very seriously doubt the existence of either, so, it doesn't bother me much.
 
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DeathBecomesMe_2021

Oct 16, 2021
212
Nope, it is my belief that there's nothing after death.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
42,584
The only thing that I am scared of is this life. Being alive really is hell. There is unlimited potential for suffering, there is no limit as to how bad things can get. Reincarnation and afterlife are fictional concepts, there is no evidence of such a thing existing. I think there is nothing, just like before we were born. I think when we lose consciousness that is it for us. This thought is very comforting to me. In death there is true peace that cannot be achieved in this life and it is the end to all suffering.
 
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disabledlife

disabledlife

Arcanist
Jun 5, 2020
435
Nope, it is my belief that there's nothing after death.
It's logical with science, exclude parallel univers, quantic phenomen... Science are a big mystery, everything is possible.
I think a lot of people want CTB because they think that since everyone is bound to die one day, if life is hell, you might as well leave it now. Especially if the person knows that he may not have existed before his own birth. It's just a matter of pragmatism.
 
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ClownMe

ClownMe

Don't Cry for Me, I'm Already Dead
Apr 7, 2021
20,561
I'm not scared of ending up in hell because im already in hell.
 
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Umeboahi

Member
Aug 7, 2021
44
I firmly want to go to Heaven. I would love it - like a giant therapy room, where I am persuaded to go back to Earth and to right my mistakes.
 
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Chockles

Experienced
Sep 17, 2021
270
I'm already in hell. Afterlife, nothingness whatever is beyond will be better than this.
 
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Circles

Visionary
Sep 3, 2018
2,297
I'm more afraid of eternal life of some kind without having the option to stopping the shit. I hate how the universe or god or whatever won't give you fucking options. Sure I'm afraid eternal oblivion to some extent but I'm more afraid of shit like neiztche's eternal reoccurrence or quantum immortality or recently I keep worrying about something called the Egg Theory where it's kinda like reincarnation but on steroids where you live out every single life form that has ever existed and will exist in the future. And to think what if this isn't the only universe? What if there's an infinite number of them with life where you end up trapped living out every single life that exists in each universe for fucking ever? And I keep asking myself if that's the case wtf is the whole point of all this? Why?
Here's a link to a video about the Egg Theory and what's crazy most people actually like it. I'm sitting here wondering how in the ever living fuck would anybody like this? Think of all the infinite suffering people!!!!

 
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Tempest

Tempest

Gathering courage to take my exit
Oct 21, 2021
40
I was raised Catholic (although my parents never talked about hell) so there's a small part of me that still takes the afterlife as a given even though I don't logically believe in it. Maybe there is some kind of energy imprint left when we die, or more likely it's all in the minds of the living.

Reincarnation means that I would forget all memories of this life and lose all the physical and mental factors that comprise just current self. It's basically a new person if all aspects of my previous ego are goneso I'm not too worried about reincarnation. Not that I believe in it anyway, but it helps to have this logical argument on hand when I come across quantum immortality theories and such.

Mostly I'm worried about time dilation in my final moments. A math professor of mine once explained the theory that time is a bounded infinite set in which there is no beginning nor end. Time, in the theory, gets infinitely close to both endpoints but never reaches either. Then my mind came up with the lovely notion that consciousness could be the same way. After some thought and research into NDEs, I've mostly dissuaded myself from that fear. If falling asleep or fainting is not experienced like that, there is no reason to assume death is. Most people who have been there say it's either peaceful or nothing at all.

If there is any sort of consciousness after death, it's nothing like how human consciousness is experienced. But there's probably nothing, just the return of the energy that fueled my living body to the greater entropy of the universe. I've made my peace with that. Of course there is a part of me that's scared of what comes at the moment of death and beyond, but I think that's just my mind throwing up natural anxiety around death. Oblivion itself is scary on a visceral level, but mentally I welcome it. Once I get there it's not like I will be able to worry about it.
 
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xrafinha

Member
Mar 29, 2021
87
It's my sincere believe that there is nothing after death, and that upsets me. As someone who was never suicidal before desiese stroke I'm having a really hard time making peace with that fact that I'll end my life and there is no more fun afterwards.
 
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ForbiddenSiren

ForbiddenSiren

Member
Dec 16, 2019
99
Nope we become nothing but a rotten corpse eaten by maggots.
 
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Naufrago

Somos o que pensamos...
Sep 24, 2021
82
I was self-taught.
I have sincerely sought answers to these common questions of humanity for over thirty years. I have been in many religions and learned about their teachings doctrines, traditions, dogma and pantheism. I was a slave to religion. The ones I haven't watched, I have literature to meet them.
I compared it to psychology, sociology, biology, archaeology, paleontology, philosophy and ufology. All this led me to discover the works of a Spanish writer excommunicated and persecuted by the Catholic Church, J.J. Benitez. Then all my research and study started to make sense.
After my search, I found a treasure trove of information (in a book without author) that ended all my doubts.
Hell does not exist, after physical death, you continue to evolve or extinction of the conscious individual.
 
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Chockles

Experienced
Sep 17, 2021
270
It's my sincere believe that there is nothing after death, and that upsets me. As someone who was never suicidal before desiese stroke I'm having a really hard time making peace with that fact that I'll end my life and there is no more fun afterwards.
I had similar thoughts. Had health issues all my life but wasn't really suicidal until I was struck down with torturous agony physical symptoms with no chance of recovery bed ridden.
But I've made peace with things. Even nothingness will be better than this. Peace in whatever form is all I desire. Hopefully by end of next week.
 
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