Do you think that for everyone, there's a point of despair where I'd be reasonable to consider suicide?

[sjembek]

If so, when?

 

[Pidgeons_Sparrows]

Yes rational suicide is very real
When? depends what the person is willing to cope with

 

[FuneralCry]

I see wanting to die as being a logical response to existing in this world filled with senseless cruelty, endless suffering and just being aware that existence is something so harmful where there is unlimited potential to suffer. And I also see it as being a logical response to being aware of how futile and unnecessary existing is and how it only leads to decay, I could never understand it if someone didn't consider suicide a reasonable option.

But I bet that if everyone had to experience the most extreme agony I doubt that even the most life worshipping people would want to continue, I bet that many pro-life people would change their views if they ended up in a situation of way worse suffering as after all existing can get much more unbearable at any moment.

 

[girlsboysthems]

yes, once all the options have been exhausted and the person feels ready.

 

[lebrodude]

I think everyone has their tipping point.

 

[sjembek]

I think everyone has their tipping point.

Yeah, but do you think there is a point where someone could actually recommend someone to CTB, given their life is horrible enough and they're already considering it?

 

[Sapphire]

Yes I think everyone has a breaking point. Its different for everybody. There are some people who have better coping skills and are more resilient; they are able to keep going longer even when one bad thing after another happens to them. Other people don't have as good coping skills and smaller problems may push them into despair.

You can't really pass judgement on other people and their situation. What may seem reasonable to one person, may seem trivial to another person who doesn't have the same problems and doesn't have to live their life.

 

[brokeandbroken]

If so, when?

I don't think there's a line for everyone in the same place. I think it is different for everyone. I think everyone has a line where if it is crossed they will CTB.

 

[vanadium23]

Yeah, but do you think there is a point where someone could actually recommend someone to CTB, given their life is horrible enough and they're already considering it?

I mean one could go to jail for inciting/assisting suicide but otherwise if all other options have been exhausted then yes.

 

[JustABug]

Yes but that option is solely dependent on what the person wants. If you've been dealt a shit hand at life where you've had no achievement's and no one to depend on, it's up to you if that's it for you. However someone can simply not get into their school of choice, and if they believe that that's worthy of their suicide, That's their choice. I don't believe it's up to us to judge why people want to take their own life. It's their life and if that's where they want to end it, so be it.

 

[lebrodude]

Yeah, but do you think there is a point where someone could actually recommend someone to CTB, given their life is horrible enough and they're already considering it?

I don't think anyone should recommend someone CTB tbh. I think it's only natural to dissuade someone from doing it.

That decision is a very personal one.

 

[Azora]

My personal belief is that no one should end it all because of an emotional state alone. Your pain should be REAL pain and something that is unending. Otherwise you're commiting permanently to something that can be easily fixed with time, therapy and/or medication. Would you ctb because you were miserable with the flu? Of course not, because you know that it's going to eventually end. Dispair also ends, only FEELING at times that it will last forever.

 

[theboy]

racional is suicide

 

[Larysa]

My personal belief is that no one should end it all because of an emotional state alone. Your pain should be REAL pain and something that is unending. Otherwise you're commiting permanently to something that can be easily fixed with time, therapy and/or medication. Would you ctb because you were miserable with the flu? Of course not, because you know that it's going to eventually end. Dispair also ends, only FEELING at times that it will last forever.

Can you not conceive of the fact that emotional pain can be very REAL and unendurable pain? Pain that can persist for years. Pain that for many cannot be "easily" fixed despite trying endless medications, therapies and decades of time?