Do you think some people are destined to commit suicide

[Kriegsman]

I really do think lately as I write this that the universe needs to me die for someone because I solved my mental health problems that were holding me back and that this is a good checkpoint.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

I do feel this way about myself, but I think it boils down to genetics in my situation. There's been multiple people on both sides of my family who CTB. Both my parents were really messed up, both mentally and one physically too. I feel like there was really no other fate for me when taking into account how much disease runs in my bloodline.

 

[LostLily]

I always felt that I was destined to ctb. Because I never felt like I could compete in life. That I was never made for this life.And the idea of growing old and feeble freighters me.
First suicidal thought was the night before 2nd grade.

 

[TheHolySword]

I don't believe in destinies or fates or anything like that. The idea of predestination or predetermination just doesn't sit right with me. Sometimes people are born with a terrible life, sometimes they create the terrible life themselves. Life can be heaven and it can be hell. We are all born to die, that is the only truth. The universe is too chaotic to have written each individual death

 

[peacefulafterlife]

I do feel this way about myself, but I think it boils down to genetics in my situation. There's been multiple people on both sides of my family who CTB. Both my parents were really messed up, both mentally and one physically too. I feel like there was really no other fate for me when taking into account how much disease runs in my bloodline.

same. i'm the intersection of two messed up family trees. i don't believe in fate but i don't think anything good could've come from the combination of my parents' genes even if all the external factors specific to me (SA etc.) hadn't occurred.

 

[KillingPain267]

Yes

 

[harlow-paige]

people?... no not really
me?... yep

always had it in my head that i'm "supposed" to die to either make someone's life better, or some (probably) delusion based act of self sacrifice for some nonsensical greater good.

 

[divinemistress36]

Some say its a part of peoples soul plan

 

[laceydreams]

yes

 

[FuneralCry]

I certainly see myself as only meant to cease existing, I never should have suffered in this futile, cruel existence at all, I find it really tragic how this existence was even imposed with me suffering so much as a result, nothing would make me wish for the unnecessary suffering of existing. I was never meant for any of this at all and I find it deeply undesirable to exist in every way possible, existence just feels like a mistake to me and I suffer so much from how I cannot just have the option to simply cease existing in peace and never exist ever again, I'm only meant for permanent non-existence where all is gone and forgotten about, I just want to never suffer ever again.

 

[BriocheAlien]

I think that some people are more predisposed to having suicidal thoughts than others. So yes. I can't truly remember a time that I was happy past the age of like... seven. I remember having suicidal thoughts that early. I'm surprised I made it to 23. At this point, I want to rest forever.

 

[lawlietsph]

I don't believe in destiny but I am definitely not good for anything in this world. I don't deserve to breathe this oxygen, to eat this food or to drink this water.
I am the most disgusting, dumb, ugly, fat, horrible person on the planet.

 

[GoSan1]

Got a good song for that thought:

 

[allensgarden]

I really do think lately as I write this that the universe needs to me die for someone because I solved my mental health problems that were holding me back and that this is a good checkpoint.

i totally think this. i have a shit ton of mental illnesses (bpd and ptsd are definitely my biggest problems) and i feel like this world wasnt made for ppl like me. i cant handle it at all and i feel like theres no way im gonna be able to survive in this hellspace bc of my stupid, damaged brain

 

[EG2025]

I'm not sure about destined. But lately I've started believing that we have no free will.

The actions that we take are simply a result of the things affecting us in life. We can't see all those factors so we can't predict it, but that doesn't make it less true. Sometimes our actions are clear and we make choices that we understand why we make. And sometimes the reason we choose is clouded to us. But there are always reasons.

So in that sense, sure, yeah. Some are destined to ctb. But I think it's less about destiny and more about inevitability. It's simply where I was born and with what biological and social surroundings, what people and things I came across in life. There was never a choice.

 

[Kyotospade]

No , I believe that we are pushed to it when we have no other options both with our real world situations and with the wars that go inside our own heads.

No one really wants to just die we are pushed to it .
No , I believe that we are pushed to it when we have no other options both with our real world situations and with the wars that go inside our own heads.

No one really wants to just die we are pushed to it .

 

[Sn00t]

Eh in a sense since I believe everything is determined but genetically some of us do have a tendency towards suicide. People on the spectrum statistically are more likely to die by suicide, and their life expectancy is much shorter (I myself fall into this camp). It is pretty infuriating when people say things like autism or having Down syndrome or gender dysphoria or any other mental condition of some sort is just an artificial character that you just have and it's not good or bad. These people will be internally and externally driven to suicide and a painful short life from the get go. As in depression for some people is an essential part of a person's psychi, in a sense they are probably destined to die by suicide (unless something gets to them first). So perhaps

 

[Grimscribe]

I don't believe in destiny, but I think my end will be self-inflicted. It's hard to imagine myself growing older, I'm 27 years old with currently zero social prospects in life, no friends, no relationships.
The only family member that cares about me is my mother, and really it's the only thing preventing me from CTBing. After she dies, it'll be just a matter of time and method.

 

[-nobodyknows-]

I don't know about other people, honestly I try not to think about it because I find the idea quite sad, but I do feel that I am likely fated to die that way.

 

[Gstreater]

I think so, life isn't fair and people can only take so much. Some people are just destined to commit suicide.

 

[avalonisburning]

I don't believe in destiny. However, I believe some people are born into or happen upon virtually inescapable circumstances that are more conducive to suicide, and those people have varying levels of tolerance for negative physical, mental, and social inputs that further influence the decision.

Of course there are always outstanding people who manage to rise above their circumstances and become successful and happy, but their stories are over-represented simply because nobody wants to hear the stories of the people who don't.

 

[BrokeJoblessGenXer]

I️'ve known this is how I️ would die since I️ was a kid. The only question is when and how.

 

[The_Hunter]

I really do think lately as I write this that the universe needs to me die for someone because I solved my mental health problems that were holding me back and that this is a good checkpoint.

Does... does this also mean that some people are "destined" to live out all their lives without ever committing suicide?

Look, destiny doesn't exist. You don't have to do anything. Especially not things you force yourself to.

The "universe" is not telling you anything; that is just your own mind, I assure you.

The truly best checkpoints are where we examine our own views and where they come from. Best of luck.

 

[The_Hunter]

I don't know about other people, honestly I try not to think about it because I find the idea quite sad, but I do feel that I am likely fated to die that way.

I think it is quite a sad idea. And I myself really strongly felt I was "meant" to kill myself during days I was suicidal; but I do truly tell you; we have power over our own fates. If God does set any fates; then he didn't give free will for no reason—certainly not to merely override it with his own. We are the arbiters of our paths and journeys; only our own wishes will decide where we go; we will end up where we move towards, even if it's a different spot we planned to be, or even an unexpected spot. But our moves will still have some consequences for where we are, regardless.

I do trust, that you are not fated to die that way—but only fated to bear the power of your own decisions, and to pick from whatever options are available to you. I do assure you that while suicide is an option, it's not the only one. Yes, an option nonetheless—but you don't have to pick it if you don't want to.

Best of luck. I hope your thoughts are as well as can be; despite whatever may pass through you.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Yeah, I think so. Not everybody is meant for life. In a population of 8 billion people, there will inevitably be some who kill themselves due to their personal situation or due to realising what life truly is like

 

[idelttoilfsadness21]

I think I knew when I was born I was meant to die but I never thought I'd actually be in pain to get there…

Some say its a part of peoples soul plan

Wish some of us can take a refund and disappear once we asked for it back…. (another life)

 

[Forever Sleep]

I definitely think some people get forced upon a path that makes it far more likely they will CTB. But, I still believe we make that ultimate choice ourselves.

Maybe some things are predetermined. Genes that make us susceptible to illness. Both physical and mental. Maybe we even have genes that govern motivation and the will to live. So- I suppose there's the question- just how much of what we do is by free will?

Still, I think we can overide our impulses. Plenty of people who have 'bad' thoughts don't act on them because they know they're wrong.

I think our ideas on right and wrong when it comes to suicide are informed by our whole life experience. I'm not convinced so many things, so many independent people going about their business in life could be predetermined to that level. Why would they be? Were you predetermined to eat cereal or toast or nothing for breakfast? Surely, that was a choice. Maybe you were more likely to choose one thing over the other but I think the final choice is still ours.

The path to suicide I imagine is preceeded by 100's, maybe 1000's of choices. Maybe some people commit the moment they first have a suicidal thought but, I doubt it. I suspect it's far more insiduous than that. When did life start to go wrong for each of us? At that very moment, did we make any attempt to change our lives for the better? Were we truly destined to make multiple wrong choices that lead us here?

I suppose I see it more that we're simply sentient organisms that struggle to varying degrees. Because we range in our abilities to cope in a world like this and because our lives themselves vary in difficulty. So, we struggle and cope or not cope to varying degrees to begin with.

The choice to actually suicide though can be prevented by common and maybe predermined things like the religion we may have been indoctrinated in, the love/ committment we feel towards our loved ones, our level of fear/ SI. Are some people really more destined to get over those things than others? I just don't know really.

I suppose I don't inderstand why our lives would be predetermined to such a degree though. Who is pretermining them? A God? But, don't most Gods impose religious rules they expect people to obey in order to show their faith? If they were predestined to always obey God, where does faith come into it? Why should they be praised by God for simply doing what they were predestined to do, while a criminal is punished for also doing what they were predestined to do? Their choices were made for them. Why would they be held accountable for them?

Plus, I suppose I just see predeteminism as an excuse. People can simply say: I was destined to fail. I was destined to commit that crime. It removes all accountability. I think we would dessolve into chaos if everyone simply followed their own selfish drives and didn't take accountability/ responsibility for their actions.

That's not to say life isn't shit though. Some people repeatedly pick themselves up only to be slapped back down. I don't really blame anyone at really any stage for wondering whether it's even worth it! But again- that's more to do with choice I believe. An assessment of the world and their place in it and a reluctance to want to participate anymore. That's my feeling anyhow.

 

[OptingOutSmiling]

I believe that in life some of us are more inclined get on this suicidal path for whatever reasons. However, I believe the universe is greater than life. To me, life is not only unfair, but wrong and whichever way we end up exiting this life, we will find ourselves on the path the universe has destined for us. This may happen sooner for us, when we realise life's wrongness and align ourselves with the universe instead. I choose to not play by life's rules, because of its wrongness, but instead to believe in the universe which is greater than life. I believe we find our peace and love in the universe when we reject life's wrongness. Not everyone recognises this and then carry on with life accepting its "unfairness". I therefore agree that some of us are in a way destined to this path of understanding.

 

[DeadManLiving]

Yes.

 

[L'absent]

For me, destiny is just an illusion, a big nonsense. It has never existed; it's simply a mental construct created by those who seek comfort in the idea that there is a predetermined plan. It's a fantasy that some minds have invented to give meaning to a world that, in reality, has none.

Everyone wants to commit suicide because existence is inherently meaningless and filled with suffering. The only difference is that some find the courage to end this farce, while others cling to the fear of death and fill the void with illusions: religion, family, children, love, art, or anything else that serves to mask the futility of living. All these constructs are just ways to deceive oneself, to avoid confronting the fact that life has no purpose or intrinsic value. In the end, living or dying changes nothing: both paths lead to absolute nothingness.

To those of you who call yourselves suicidal and say you give life another opportunity, postponing your intent by a year, a month, or even just a day, I want to say this: you're not different from ordinary people who fill their existence with distractions to prolong it indefinitely. They do it with family, work, love, and fear; you do it with the concept of 'another opportunity.'

This tendency to delay the inevitable is nothing but a human reflex, a struggle to postpone the end. Whether it's living with illness, driving at full speed, climbing mountains, or jumping with a parachute, it's all a way to flirt with the edge of life, perhaps hoping for a 'suicide' that doesn't seem like one.

The truth is that the desire to die and the desire to live are two sides of the same coin. Even those who declare themselves suicidal often delay, search for reasons, find excuses, because in the end, death is as scary as life. So, ask yourselves: is this 'another opportunity' truly a way to live, or an illusion to keep postponing what you fear most?