Discussion Do you think having dinner table conversations about someone's CTB plans should be normalized in the society ?

[MeltingBrain]

We make decision regarding attending college, opening a business, getting a new job, choosing a life partner. Speaking about all these things is pretty normal, in fact dinner table conversation often have your life choices as a central theme for many discussions . Try having a dinner table conversation about your plans to CTB and people will lose their minds .

Do you think conversation about your CTB plans should be more normalized ? As in a world where you are sitting with a group of friends and you can casually drop "Hey, I think I am going to CTB ?" and they treat the question like any other question about marriage, college ,....

I would love to hear why you chose what you chose.

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[Install-Gentoo]

I mean... I think it's a heavy topic. I think it's not something you could just drop randomly. For example, "coming out" as gay is still a very important moment for gay people, even in a society that accepts it. It's usually not treated like something super light and easy to say.
Maybe I misinterpreted this, but discussing one's suicide plans and hopes should probably be a more serious discussion than "btw I'm gonna die next week, can you pass the potato salad"

 

[Forever Sleep]

I'd say- yes we should definitely be holding these discussions. I think generally talking about suicide and assisted suicide is maybe ok for dinner discussion. As for- 'I want to kill mysef'. I think that's more of a- 'Can we sit down and talk- there's something I need to tell you' type of thing. Even if it seems a fairly casual choice to take our own lives to us- it may not be to them so yeah- between main course and pudding seems a bit too casual to me!

 

[m4rius]

Yeah it should be but realistically it will never happen unless people were to be open-minded to a new level. We're too primitive and selfish for that. A lot of the stigma is based on fear/survival instinct.

That kind of normalization itself could produce a feeling of belonging, because people would be willing to listen than shut you down. Imo it would lead to less deaths. I think this should be obvious.

 

[MeltingBrain]

"btw I'm gonna die next week, can you pass the potato salad"

That's the idea but that doesn't mean the ensuing discussion won't be serious , it will just be more normalized.
People have serious career discussions over dinner table .

That kind of normalization itself could produce a feeling of belonging, because people would be willing to listen than shut you down.

I agree on this .

 

[FuneralCry]

Absolutely. Choosing when to leave this world is a human right so should be treated as such, none of us are obligated to continue delaying the inevitable after all. And anyway death is the most normal thing and people die everyday, it should be able to be discussed as we are destined for nothing and nowhere but to die, existence is just a meaningless distraction from the fact that death is inevitable.

 

[loopdaloop]

idk telling people who care about you that you want to ctb might make the whole ride from that point to the evetual death kinda rocky. Imagine the unnecessary stress from anticipating a loss, rather than just dealing with it when the time comes

 

[MeltingBrain]

Imagine the unnecessary stress from anticipating a loss...

That's what the question tries to address .

 

[Sweet Tart]

I think it should be possible to discuss ctb at least in the same way one would discuss terminal illness. I think of my depression that way but I can't speak for what ctb means for others.

Loss or the potential of future loss is absolutely something that we should be able to discuss at the dinner table. When my father was ill for years and then passed somewhat young (from cancer), I observed how uncomfortable many people are with discussing illness and death.

That said, it's hard to imagine broaching the topic of ctb for the first time at the dinner table and dealing with a variety of reactions at once. Tho, I generally eat alone...

 

[MeltingBrain]

When my father was ill for years and then passed somewhat young (from cancer), I observed how uncomfortable many people are with discussing illness and death.

So sorry for your loss.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Yes it should absolutely be normalized because to most of us it's a very important thing and it's already a bit of a relief when it's possible to talk freely about own CTB plans and actual CTB.

 

[Sweet Tart]

So sorry for your loss.

ty, it was a long time ago.

 

[Techef]

I wish this were the case, but it's a delicate topic. Personally the only close person I have left to even talk about this with would be my sister, but I know just broaching the topic would destroy her mentally as she's already dealing with extreme mental illness and trauma. I do believe there's a lack of discussions regarding end-of-life in general though. Death is inevitably a part of life...