Discussion Do You Think Dying is Always Painful?

[Robbyna]

I'm ready to commit suicide, but I constantly panic over the prospect of the pain. I've decided on one of two methods 1) partial hanging and 2) SN. SN seems like the most efficient method and I've recently learned of SA which may be even more effective, but I am terrified of the possibility of unbearable pain as I die. Does any one have any suggestions for mitigating this, or know of any methods where survivors reported limited pain? I have the feeling that by it's nature the beak down of the body to death is going to always cause pain. Am I wrong?

 

[LifeOver]

N is apparently painless but getting it is very difficult now. F is probably ok too but it is also an illegal substance. Any other method will come with a certain degree of pain.

I am planning to leave using SN too, and the amount of pain you experience appears to vary greatly from person to person. If the pain can be handled by an old grandma from Exit, you can do it too

 

[Robbyna]

N is apparently painless but getting it is very difficult now. F is probably ok too but it is also an illegal substance. Any other method will come with a certain degree of pain.

I am planning to leave using SN too, and the amount of pain you experience appears to vary greatly from person to person. If the pain can be handled by an old grandma from Exit, you can do it too

I hadn't thought of it that way. I just imagine suffocating from within. It really freaks me out, but I'm ready to go. As you said if an old grandma can do it, surely I can too. All I have to do is swallow.
Edit: I wanted to add that I just got scammed trying to buy N. The recommendation came from a PPeH link I found in this site. Just wanted to warn people. The sellers name started with F.

 

[Lady black]

The only real pain at hanging is if you do it wrong or survive

 

[SinisterKid]

I have died once without any pain and it is certainly nothing I fear anymore. It was the most "peaceful" for want of a better word, state I have ever known or experienced. SN will hopefully complete the task at some point and I fully expect it to be painless and relatively peaceful as well.

 

[Robbyna]

It might be irrational but I fear that there is pain after it's obvious to an observer. I keep imagining a smothering feeling I can't escape. It's probably just survival instinct to the max.

 

[marcusuk63]

The answer is NO as the question implies everyone who has ever died has died in pain

 

[Robbyna]

The answer is NO as the question implies everyone who has ever died has died in pain

That is my question and my fear is that that might be the case. I've heard it said that one of our most painful experiences is taking our first breath. What if it's equally painful taking our last?

 

[JoeFailure]

"A girl calls and asks, "Does it hurt very much to die?"
"Well, sweetheart," I tell her, "yes, but it hurts a lot more to keep living."
― Chuck Palahniuk, Survivor

All joking aside, to be realistic, it'll probably hurt to some degree. I know if I ever do it, I'm going to have to prepare myself for that. It's hard to for me to imagine that if I took N or SN, my body wouldn't wake me up at the point of my respiratory system shutting down. But maybe I'm just jaded.

 

[Lady black]

Yes it seems it´s survival instinct. If death would be eternal pain, why try old and sick people to starve to death? Why do they often wish to die if they are in pain?

 

[marcusuk63]

That is my question and my fear is that that might be the case. I've heard it said that one of our most painful experiences is taking our first breath. What if it's equally painful taking our last?

if death is instant i cant see how it can be painful , hitting the concrete at 70mph from a tall building head 1st would not be painful , not quite on the same scale but a car pulled out on my on my motorcycle at 60mph , i flew over the car and landed on my head on the other side , i had a helmet on but was still unconscious for 3 days i felt no pain at all until i woke up , the trick is not to wake up

 

[Robbyna]

Yes it seems it´s survival instinct. If death would be eternal pain, why try old and sick people to starve to death? Why do they often wish to die if they are in pain?

That's a very good point. I just have to face my fear. Thank you for engaging me with this. I obviously don't have anyone irl I can share this with.

if death is instant i cant see how it can be painful , hitting the concrete at 70mph from a tall building head 1st would not be painful , not quite on the same scale but a car pulled out on my on my motorcycle at 60mph , i flew over the car and landed on my head on the other side , i had a helmet on but was still unconscious for 3 days i felt no pain at all until i woke up , the trick is not to wake up

Yes, that is the trick! Im sorry about your accident, but hearing about your experience is reassuring.

 

[Soul]

Yes it seems it´s survival instinct. If death would be eternal pain, why try old and sick people to starve to death? Why do they often wish to die if they are in pain?

Ahh but what if they're mistaken, @Lady black ? I don't want to add to your fears, @Robbyna, but I understand what you're talking about: what if more is being experienced than bystanders perceive? It's really better not to think about that. We'll find out when the time comes.

 

[Lady black]

Everybody has to die one day? why should everybody suffer then?

 

[marcusuk63]

i think the fear of pain is more painful than the pain ,
when ever i have had accidents , which there have been many i giggle lol

 

[k75]

I don't like this idea, but I'm really starting to think that no matter what, there's going to be pain. And it's all just basically a matter of picking the least bad pain. Kind of like a lesser of two evils thing. The more I think about it, the more I don't like it. It stresses me out. That's probably why I'm hesitating right now. It's not that I don't want to do it... I just can't decide which discomfort I want.

 

[Robbyna]

Ahh but what if they're mistaken, @Lady black ? I don't want to add to your fears, @Robbyna, but I understand what you're talking about: what if more is being experienced than bystanders perceive? It's really better not to think about that. We'll find out when the time comes.

I wish the thought had never entered my mind, but there it is, holding me back.

 

[marcusuk63]

I`m sure most of us have had really bad toothache and i`ve heard giving birth can be painful too pain is part of life so having pain for 60 seconds before death is acceptable IMO

 

[Robbyna]

I don't like this idea, but I'm really starting to think that no matter what, there's going to be pain. And it's all just basically a matter of picking the least bad pain. Kind of like a lesser of two evils thing. The more I think about it, the more I don't like it. It stresses me out. That's probably why I'm hesitating right now. It's not that I don't want to do it... I just can't decide which discomfort I want.

I'm in the exact same position.

I`m sure most of us have had really bad toothache and i`ve heard giving birth can be painful too pain is part of life so having pain for 60 seconds before death is acceptable IMO

You're very right. I just have to put it the right prospective.

 

[k75]

I`m sure most of us have had really bad toothache and i`ve heard giving birth can be painful too pain is part of life so having pain for 60 seconds before death is acceptable IMO

But the thing is, with stuff like childbirth, you get pain relief with anesthesia and stuff. So it's different, because there's no real protection against this pain. And that's scary. And the fear is compounded because we know it's coming and can fear it and there's nothing we can do about it. Once you cross the point of no return, you can't avoid it if it happens.

 

[transgenderfailure]

I feel like the moment of passing from being alive to being dead is painless. When you look at dead bodies that died 'naturally' you seldom see expressions of pain on their faces, some you see smiling even.

But for the sake of the argument let's say I am wrong and the pain of passing is unbearable... Well, our bodies have this mechanism to deal with unbearable pain aka shock/unconsciousness. So worst thing that could happen is you go in shock from the pain and then you pass peacefully anyway.

Death is a natural transition, imo we shouldn't be scared of it...

(This is just my dumb little theory. I hope it's true. :)

 

[Lady black]

If your life is really bad you will forget about this thoughts

 

[Robbyna]

I feel like the moment of passing from being alive to being dead is painless. When you look at dead bodies that died 'naturally' you seldom see expressions of pain on their faces, some you see smiling even.

But for the sake of the argument let's say I am wrong and the pain of passing is unbearable... Well, our bodies have this mechanism to deal with unbearable pain aka shock/unconsciousness. So worst thing that could happen is you go in shock from the pain and then you pass peacefully anyway.

Death is a natural transition, imo we shouldn't be scared of it...

(This is just my dumb little theory. I hope it's true. :)

That doesn't sound dumb at all to me. It's a reasonable theory, and probably closer to the truth than my fears. At least I hope it is.

 

[transgenderfailure]

Also... if you think about it, people who experienced their heart stopping, report that they didn't feel pain, they just felt light headed, sweaty and then saw blackness.

If their heart didn't start beating again (by itself or by being saved) they would be dead moments later, it seems unlikely to me that these people where experiencing anything at all while their heart was stopped (other then the NDE experience thingies you read about, but that's more out of body wise. I don't think anyone reports physical pain)

 

[Robbyna]

If your life is really bad you will forget about this thoughts

It's pretty bad. I'm trying to get over these thoughts and this thread is helping a lot. Thank you.

 

[k75]

If your life is really bad you will forget about this thoughts

I don't forget. I obsess. The closer I get, the worse it gets. I just don't know...

 

[transgenderfailure]

Btw I don't agree with the notion "you'll forget about these thoughts when your life is bad enough", your life can be awful, like genuinenly a shitshow, and you can still be an anxiety bomb, obsessing over these small details, no matter what you're going through, the unknown is always scary, so it's okay that you are feeling worried.

<3

 

[k75]

My biggest problem is I don't deal with change and I really don't deal well with unknown situations. And this is like the ultimate unknown. We can speculate, but absolutely nobody knows what it's actually like. And this is not dying naturally, it's prematurely forcing your body to quit. So the argument that people seem to die peacefully when they just pass away of old age or whatever doesn't really apply here. I think that the actual crossing over part or whatever probably is painless and peaceful and everything, but what I'm worried about is the pain that comes before you get there. Because there's a process before that and you're not in control anymore of what happens.

 

[transgenderfailure]

My biggest problem is I don't deal with change and I really don't deal well with unknown situations. And this is like the ultimate unknown. We can speculate, but absolutely nobody knows what it's actually like. And this is not dying naturally, it's prematurely forcing your body to quit. So the argument that people seem to die peacefully when they just pass away of old age or whatever doesn't really apply here. I think that the actual crossing over part or whatever probably is painless and peaceful and everything, but what I'm worried about is the pain that comes before you get there. Because there's a process before that and you're not in control anymore of what happens.

Say you go by N or F.

Have you ever been under anesthesia?

It's like the same thing, the doctors were cutting in your body and you didn't feel a thing. That's because the medicine they give you interrupts nerve signals in your brain and body. It prevents your brain from processing pain and from remembering what happened during your surgery.

So like, what about people who die during surgery? They for sure didn't feel any pain right? Or do you think they did?

 

[Asta]

Hundreds of people who had NDE's said that it's like walking into another room. The only pain, in ctb, might come from the method used, not the actual exit from the physical body, or as k75 says, the "crossing over part."